I paid quite a bit over retail for my Rose twiggy (but it is in excellent condition), and even more for my Eggplant city (also in great condition), and I'm happy with that. I don't mind paying over retail if it is a past-season colour and style I want, but only if it is excellent condition – dark handles gross me out. I'd rather pay more than wait and wait and wait for a bargain that might never come around – too much stress that way.