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#11,041
RL Bernstein said:
I suspect that adding "knicks" were an option left to the leatherworkers discretion when completing the foldover that's part of this tab receiver design (for when the die cutter left the edge of the tab that's to be folded under too far up the corner radius of the slot). I've a metal tag courier in mocha that shows some minor razoring in a similar location.

Regarding your "decade apart" in age estimate, I suspect that may be an exaggeration. From what I've seen, COACH metal tags were employed on pre-creed bags till 1972 or so, That method of identification was then superseded by cartouche imprints (or riveted leather cartouche tags on those styles where a "good" location for an imprint could not be identified) till the introduction of creeds in 1974 or so. So in all likelihood, your two pre-creed large courier pouches are within a few years of each other and closing in on 50-yo. Great bags and I trust that they will serve you well for many years to come.
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That's great info, thank you! I've got a lot to learn about these older bags yet, that's why I'm here! I guessed the age of the bags as around mid 60's for the metal tag and around mid 70's for the cartouche but that of course could be way off. It doesn't matter to me, I'm just so thrilled to have a little piece of Coach history. :happydance:
 
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DaisyDD said:
Love your collection. I too have a lot of Coach bags. I don't think I've ever spread them out and looked at exactly what I have. You have sparked my interest in what I have. Again..great collection!
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Thank you, every once and a while I like to take them out and see which ones I haven't used lately or ever, and maybe either start using or sell them off. Lol
 
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Morgan_Bellini said:
That's great info, thank you! I've got a lot to learn about these older bags yet, that's why I'm here! I guessed the age of the bags as around mid 60's for the metal tag and around mid 70's for the cartouche but that of course could be way off. It doesn't matter to me, I'm just so thrilled to have a little piece of Coach history. :happydance:
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Although Ebay removed almost all the member-written Guides from the site last year, a tiny handful managed to slip through the cracks. This one by a dormant tPFer and former Ebayer was one of them. While a few dates may need some minor corrections now that more people are rehabbing and analyzing vintage Coaches, the dates and details are pretty accurate.

https://www.ebay.com/gds/Guide-to-Vintage-Coach-Hang-tags-and-Creeds-/10000000177697673/g.html
 
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#11,048
Justin392 said:
Does anyone happen to know the style name for this bag from the Sheridan line? I can’t for the life of me find it anywhere....

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Do ya'll think these light colored bags from the Sonoma, Sheridan, Dakota, lightweight, and other vintage styles (Willis, Court, etc) were just sitting in a closet and never used? I've only had two light colored leather bags from different brands (one white, one sort of lighter than British tan) and both had color transfer problems and have made me never want to purchase light colored leather again. I also have a pink leather Fossil wallet that picks up dirt easily. So I'm amazed while currently scanning the online shops how pristine some of the light colored bags are. I mean this one shown looks like it was never used!
 
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polkadots55 said:
Do ya'll think these light colored bags from the Sonoma, Sheridan, Dakota, lightweight, and other vintage styles (Willis, Court, etc) were just sitting in a closet and never used? I've only had two light colored leather bags from different brands (one white, one sort of lighter than British tan) and both had color transfer problems and have made me never want to purchase light colored leather again. I also have a pink leather Fossil wallet that picks up dirt easily. So I'm amazed while currently scanning the online shops how pristine some of the light colored bags are. I mean this one shown looks like it was never used!
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I think of light-colored bags (especially cream or white) as best suited for special occasions like weddings or graduations. They're impractical but lovely.

I have only one light colored bag. It doesn't seem right for winter, so I'll only carry it in spring or summer. When I do carry it, I'm very careful with it. It sits in my closet most of the time, but I love seeing it there.
 
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polkadots55 said:
Do ya'll think these light colored bags from the Sonoma, Sheridan, Dakota, lightweight, and other vintage styles (Willis, Court, etc) were just sitting in a closet and never used? I've only had two light colored leather bags from different brands (one white, one sort of lighter than British tan) and both had color transfer problems and have made me never want to purchase light colored leather again. I also have a pink leather Fossil wallet that picks up dirt easily. So I'm amazed while currently scanning the online shops how pristine some of the light colored bags are. I mean this one shown looks like it was never used!
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I learned this tip from @whateve I have a Beechwood Dinky that is a very light sand shade, and I applied a light coat of Blackrock's Leather N Rich, wiping off the excess immediately. It leaves a light waxy coating so hopefully I'll be able to wipe anything off. I am more careful with the color too.
 
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polkadots55 said:
Do ya'll think these light colored bags from the Sonoma, Sheridan, Dakota, lightweight, and other vintage styles (Willis, Court, etc) were just sitting in a closet and never used? I've only had two light colored leather bags from different brands (one white, one sort of lighter than British tan) and both had color transfer problems and have made me never want to purchase light colored leather again. I also have a pink leather Fossil wallet that picks up dirt easily. So I'm amazed while currently scanning the online shops how pristine some of the light colored bags are. I mean this one shown looks like it was never used!
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The worst white bag I had was a fabric one. The roughness of the fabric rubbed against my jeans and picked up color. It ended up being too high maintenance for me. I have a recent Coach pebbled leather white bag that has remained pristine so I'm not as afraid of light colors as I once was. It depends on the bag. I treat all my light colored bags to frequent Blackrocks.
 
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Yes and absolutely thank you for the Blackrock recommendation.!! I'm still working through old threads (goal is to get caught up with the rehab and entire vintage thread). Just upon my initial searches, I bought the Apple Conditioner, Leather CPR, a bottle of Lexol step 1 cleaner, & the Blackrock. I've also bookmarked threads mentioning Meltonian and Obenauf (but I'm still needing to do loads more reading about it). The light tan color bag I mentioned earlier was a preloved Massaccesi I purchased through the Facebook BST group (learned via handbag forum thread on here). There was very tiny discoloration when I bought it in the corners and it got worse in my possession. It was a soft leather (which my husband said he thinks wasn't sealed or pretreated or anything - we're really not 100% sure). Anyways, he knew I was upset about it and one day I was taking a shower and when I got out of the shower he was rubbing the Lexol stuff on the bag. I immediately freak out because it is not glove tanned Coach leather and I'm not sure if that was something the original atelier would have appreciated. It did discolor (well darken) the bag and we ended up just using CPR everywhere and the Blackrock as the last step. I'm not really sure what the point of the Apple, CRP, or Lexol is because I don't really notice a big difference on my leather products (& I wasn't blown away after application). But...whatever is in the Blackrock is magical and I can tell a pretty wonderful difference after that has been applied. It did darken the bag, but as a result, I actually like it much better now (more of a rust color than a tan) and I haven't noticed any transfer problems since we did that. I'm just really wanting to go back and read through all of the threads and learn more. I've always seen leather shoe shine and cleaning stuff (like in movies, etc), but I've never really heard about leather purse/wallet/etc cleaning and maintenance and I didn't really come from a family that would have likely had real nice leather stuff anyways so this is a whole new world to me.
 
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Hello all!

So I finally received another Coach Willis in British Tan in the mail (I really like this style). I compared my new one with my other Willis, which is U.S. made. The new one is made in Hungary. They are the same, but the one made in Hungary is slightly bigger and has a different strap buckle shape (more rounded, but still rectangular). The U.S. one was made in '95 and the Hungarian one in '98. I've already had both of them authenticated here at TPF, but now I'm just curious about the history. Was there a difference in size and hardware of the same model of bag depending on the factory/year the bag was made?
 
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I have two white bags I use on the regular- a 2006 Ergo XL Tote and my Rogue satchel, both in chalk. The tote because it never touches my jeans, I don't use anything on it, I just wipe it with a baby wipe from time to time. And my Rogue I use Apple rain and stain on it to help keep the color transfer from being permanent. When I see it happen, I wipe immediately and the Apple keeps it from being permanent. I was in my Ergo Tote for seriously over a month, I love that bag so much!
 
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Hyacinth said:
Although Ebay removed almost all the member-written Guides from the site last year, a tiny handful managed to slip through the cracks. This one by a dormant tPFer and former Ebayer was one of them. While a few dates may need some minor corrections now that more people are rehabbing and analyzing vintage Coaches, the dates and details are pretty accurate.

https://www.ebay.com/gds/Guide-to-Vintage-Coach-Hang-tags-and-Creeds-/10000000177697673/g.html
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That was a very cool read, thank you!
 
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