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I feel you! If you get an answer could could you reply back??
I don't know if it happened before 2012 as I wasn't as involved in the brand before then. So I assume it was Coach's fault for naming the more recent Legacy style a penny.
How many of these total do you have? I may be interested for the Archivecollection... 
Oh, yeah, now I remember!None of those connections are right except the connection to the Dinky. The others are just the usual seller mistakes, misdirection and confusion
According to Coach Archivist Jed Winokur, the Penny style was the early version of the Dinky and included a strap attachment point consisting of a grommet through the leather near the top of the bag. When the strap attachment was changed to a D or O-ring attached to a sewn-on leather tab, the name was changed to Dinky.
Jed bought at least one example from one of our posters here, and when some of us, including myself, questtioned if another example with the same strap attachment was genuine, the poster/seller contacted Jed for more information.
These posts should explain it:
https://forum.purseblog.com/threads/authenticate-this-coach.763164/page-576#post-24369321
https://forum.purseblog.com/threads/authenticate-this-coach.763164/page-577#post-24369705
https://forum.purseblog.com/threads/authenticate-this-coach.763164/page-578#post-24372632
"Jed Winokur's Response:
...The green bag I purchased from you is a "vintage Penny" fromthe early 1970s. The Dinky is the same bag but with tubular handles. Yourversion pre-dates the Dinky by a few years and we have a number of thispre-Dinky Penny in the Archive so it is real. I consider all of these bags all"vintage Penny's" and there is a third version too also from the70's. The silhouette and size are the same on all of these bags but the strapswere different.
I am not surprised that you are encountering collectors who havenever seen these versions before. They are rare and you seem to have access toa lot of early 1970s Coach bags in Hawaii that don't surface very often!
Jed"
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None of those connections are right except the connection to the Dinky. The others are just the usual seller mistakes, misdirection and confusion
According to Coach Archivist Jed Winokur, the Penny style was the early version of the Dinky and included a strap attachment point consisting of a grommet through the leather near the top of the bag. When the strap attachment was changed to a D or O-ring attached to a sewn-on leather tab, the name was changed to Dinky.
Jed bought at least one example from one of our posters here, and when some of us, including myself, questtioned if another example with the same strap attachment was genuine, the poster/seller contacted Jed for more information.
These posts should explain it:
https://forum.purseblog.com/threads/authenticate-this-coach.763164/page-576#post-24369321
https://forum.purseblog.com/threads/authenticate-this-coach.763164/page-577#post-24369705
https://forum.purseblog.com/threads/authenticate-this-coach.763164/page-578#post-24372632
"Jed Winokur's Response:
...The green bag I purchased from you is a "vintage Penny" fromthe early 1970s. The Dinky is the same bag but with tubular handles. Yourversion pre-dates the Dinky by a few years and we have a number of thispre-Dinky Penny in the Archive so it is real. I consider all of these bags all"vintage Penny's" and there is a third version too also from the70's. The silhouette and size are the same on all of these bags but the strapswere different.
I am not surprised that you are encountering collectors who havenever seen these versions before. They are rare and you seem to have access toa lot of early 1970s Coach bags in Hawaii that don't surface very often!
Jed"
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Thank you for providing the previous links and discussion. And though I still would like to see something historical that pins the name "Penny" to the style (period design sketch, advert, pricesheet, ...), the sequence of events described would help to explain the early 1970s overlap between the last release of the Dinky Shopping Bag Tote (metal tag + bound edges + black fabric lined) and the introduction of this style of bag (the earliest of which also had metal tags). It certainly would have been confusing to have the word Dinky assigned at the same time to two very different designs. But given the history and catchiness of the "Dinky" moniker first penned by BC (who also spelled it as "Dinkey" in some of her sketches), I can appreciate the desire to recycle the name once the Shopping Bag Tote had been retired.
It's a good price and it has two rivets instead of just one attaching the buckle, which is good.
Nice. Sorry/You're welcome
for the nudge. Twins!
That's interesting. It implies that it wasn't called penny until then. I wonder why Jed said it was an old name? I wonder if there is any printed proof that the name was used earlier?
