Should be careful when you order on Future Fashionista!!

[Irishgal]

Did the transaction go okay? Did you get your hoops in a timely manner? Were they as described? Were you able to communicate with FF?

Seems so far that 09 was fairly stable?

All I can say is that I received the hoops that were pictured. I cannot say if the specs were as she said or anything like that.

 

[K.Z.]

yes, ebay about a year or so ago started a rule that you HAVE to accept paypal as your ONLY form of payment. personal checks and money orders were no longer accepted via an ebay transaction—eChecks via paypal only. i list on ebay here and there, but have a few items listed currently and you cannot accept any other form of payment.

so somehow, i am not buying that her paypal account is not active because in order to list items for sale on ebay, you must have an automatic payment set up through paypal in order to continue to sell on ebay.

I'm sorry, but I think that's incorrect per eBay's own terms.

From eBay:


Payment options for most listings

For most categories, you need to offer at least one electronic payment or Internet merchant credit card option. This provides a fast and secure transaction for you and the buyer. When a buyer clicks the Pay Now button in My eBay, the listing, or email notification, they pay you immediately and the payment is processed through the option you've chosen. You receive an email telling you you've been paid and you can ship the item.
You can also offer payment upon pickup.
Learn more about selecting your payment preferences.
You'll be offered payment options when you list your item. Payment options for most listings include:

• PayPal
• ProPay
• Moneybookers
• Paymate
• Merchant credit card
• Payment upon pickup

Notes:

• Payment by personal check, cashier's check, bank-to-bank transfers, or money order isn't allowed for most eBay purchases.

• This doesn't apply to: some Motors categories, the Real Estate and Adult Only categories, and capital equipment. For a list of excluded categories, see the accepted payments policy.

 

[onegirlcreative]

that's not accurate ~ it's true that sellers are not permitted to request money orders, checks or bank wires, but there are several alternatives to using paypal, such as propay or direct processing of charges through a merchant account. http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/accepted-payments-policy.html

that said, her feebay listings do indicate that payment via paypal is available.

true, but when i just tried to change mine on my ebay account just now (just to see what options i had other than PP), the options were as follows:

paypal
credit/debit card

that's it. those were the ONLY options made available to me for a direct/automatic payment for your ebay fees (which is what i was talking about in my original post that you quoted). i imagine if you have an ebay store, that it is most likely different and perhaps you have the option of using another source, but for me, with a personal ebay account, my only options were the above (as shown in the screenshot below).

also, i just noticed that you may have misinterpreted the bolded part of my post. i meant that in order to sell on ebay, you must have an automatic payment set up for your ebay fees, not an automatic payment set up for your listings. my bad.

 

[dressage queen]

^^ sorry, you're right that i didn't realize you were talking about paying your feebay fees, and thought it was still about how buyers pay for purchases. still, i think it's possible to be entirely paypal-free if you accept credit card payments and set up your fee payments with a credit card, too. it's rather a theoretical point, though, since the listings do show paypal as a payment option which would certainly imply the existence of a paypal account.

 

[K.Z.]

^^ sorry, you're right that i didn't realize you were talking about paying your feebay fees, and thought it was still about how buyers pay for purchases. still, i think it's possible to be entirely paypal-free if you accept credit card payments and set up your fee payments with a credit card, too. it's rather a theoretical point, though, since the listings do show paypal as a payment option which would certainly imply the existence of a paypal account.

Me neither! ush:

 

[onegirlcreative]

^^ sorry, you're right that i didn't realize you were talking about paying your feebay fees, and thought it was still about how buyers pay for purchases. still, i think it's possible to be entirely paypal-free if you accept credit card payments and set up your fee payments with a credit card, too. it's rather a theoretical point, though, since the listings do show paypal as a payment option which would certainly imply the existence of a paypal account.

i agree, but i think in order to have buyers pay you via a credit/debit card, you have to have a merchant account, which i think would involve having a business. since i don't have a merchant account, i cannot comment further on this.

but to get back on topic, i imagine in order for elana to maintain her ebay account, her paypal account is most likely active.

 

[blah956]

i agree, but i think in order to have buyers pay you via a credit/debit card, you have to have a merchant account, which i think would involve having a business. since i don't have a merchant account, i cannot comment further on this.

but to get back on topic, i imagine in order for elana to maintain her ebay account, her paypal account is most likely active.

unless the 2nd one is hooked up to her husband?

 

[Kallie Girl]

i agree, but i think in order to have buyers pay you via a credit/debit card, you have to have a merchant account, which i think would involve having a business. since i don't have a merchant account, i cannot comment further on this.

but to get back on topic, i imagine in order for elana to maintain her ebay account, her paypal account is most likely active.

http://pages.ebay.com/help/sell/paypalfees.html
From eBay: "PayPal charges Premier and Business accounts fees to receive payments. Personal accounts are free, but cannot receive credit card payments from other PayPal accounts.

Note: To sell on eBay, you are required to accept all forms of payment, including credit cards. If you have a Personal account you must be willing to upgrade from a Personal PayPal Account to a Premier or Business Account upon receipt of a credit-card-funded payment.

The fees are charged to your PayPal account and not your eBay account."

 

[dressage queen]

KG, what they're getting at there is that if a seller does accept paypal then they must accept all forms of paypal payments ~ some sellers were trying to avoid paypal fees by specifying only paypal echeck was accepted since the maximum fee for that is $5.

it is possible to set up a seller account without having a paypal account (direct credit card charge by feebay, for example), and payments from buyers can also be accepted with other approved electronic forms of payment.

but i agree with OGC that it's most likely there is a paypal account involved, since paypal is listed as a form of payment for her items.

 

[chloehandbags]

If you were lured in by Elana's stories, then she did what any effective salesperson does, she sold you. Her "selling at cost" was schtick. No one forced you to buy anything. If you didn't feel the need to have these items checked before finalizing the transaction, then you bear the burden of the results of buying something online.

No, I have to disagree here.

As a seller, you can be persuasive, of course and it is entirely up to you how you price the item; but you still have a legal obligation to ensure that anything you say/write is FACTUAL.

So, if you claim, to use your example, that an item is being sold at your cost, that must be the case.

Otherwise, it's fraud, pure and simple.

OK, so you may well think that any buyer, with any sense/experience, would know they were being 'sold'; as who on earth would sell anything professionally for no profit? But whether that is the case, or not, is completely irrelevant.

Whether a buyer is naive, or not, makes no difference in the eyes of the law, if a seller has been dishonest.

Although I agree it is always wise to do one's due diligence, as a buyer, it is not the legal responsibility of any buyer to do so.

So, no, according to the law, the buyer does not bear the burden if they do not have things 'checked' before finalising the transaction.

 

[Nyria]

Could we maybe start a new thread about the paypal fee thing? That way other prople who are not interested in the Japster situation could chime in too and perhaps clear things up a bit?

 

[kashmira]

I could finally pick up my diamond studs (bought from Elana in January 2010) from my jeweller today and they confirmed that the diamonds match the GIA dossier reports.

I asked what a similar pair of diamond studs would cost (same carat weight, clarity and colour and cut too I guess but without GIA dossier reports) and that price was way higher than what I paid (in fact Elana sold me these earrings for less than 30% of that price). Jewellery is very expensive where I live but when I bought the earrings I was comparing with similar pairs from BlueNile/Whiteflash and Elanas price was better than their prices too!

I do hope that those of you who have not received what you paid for will be able to return the jewellery and get your money back.

 

[pyrexia]

I could finally pick up my diamond studs (bought from Elana in January 2010) from my jeweller today and they confirmed that the diamonds match the GIA dossier reports.

I asked what a similar pair of diamond studs would cost (same carat weight, clarity and colour and cut too I guess but without GIA dossier reports) and that price was way higher than what I paid (in fact Elana sold me these earrings for less than 30% of that price). Jewellery is very expensive where I live but when I bought the earrings I was comparing with similar pairs from BlueNile/Whiteflash and Elanas price was better than their prices too!

I do hope that those of you who have not received what you paid for will be able to return the jewellery and get your money back.

Breathing a sigh of relief for you, Kashmira! So glad your earrings are okay.

 

[Kallie Girl]

I could finally pick up my diamond studs (bought from Elana in January 2010) from my jeweller today and they confirmed that the diamonds match the GIA dossier reports.

I asked what a similar pair of diamond studs would cost (same carat weight, clarity and colour and cut too I guess but without GIA dossier reports) and that price was way higher than what I paid (in fact Elana sold me these earrings for less than 30% of that price). Jewellery is very expensive where I live but when I bought the earrings I was comparing with similar pairs from BlueNile/Whiteflash and Elanas price was better than their prices too!

I do hope that those of you who have not received what you paid for will be able to return the jewellery and get your money back.

Oh, L, I am sooooo happy for you!!!!! Yay!!!!

 

[Ascella]

I could finally pick up my diamond studs (bought from Elana in January 2010) from my jeweller today and they confirmed that the diamonds match the GIA dossier reports.

I asked what a similar pair of diamond studs would cost (same carat weight, clarity and colour and cut too I guess but without GIA dossier reports) and that price was way higher than what I paid (in fact Elana sold me these earrings for less than 30% of that price). Jewellery is very expensive where I live but when I bought the earrings I was comparing with similar pairs from BlueNile/Whiteflash and Elanas price was better than their prices too!

I do hope that those of you who have not received what you paid for will be able to return the jewellery and get your money back.

Really glad to hear that it turned out well for you!