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#121
I am coming in on the end of this but I see it in pretty simple terms. There was a conflict of interest here, because a member of the forum has a vested financial interest in the product being promoted. Whether it is a good product is really not the issue.

Running a forum this size with so many different personalities is very time consuming and is loaded with drama. Sometimes the forum owners have to make decisions that may be unpopular to some but are for the good of the "community" as a whole.

Also, regarding the term 'troll' being used, wikipedia.com defines 'troll' in the context of the internet as follows:

In Internet terminology, a troll is someone who comes into an established community such as an online discussion forum, and posts inflammatory, rude or offensive messages designed to annoy and antagonize the existing members or disrupt the flow of discussion (see anonymous internet posting).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_trolling
 
#122
Would saying someone is a troll be considered name-calling? I've learned from Swankymama that name-calling is a no-no on here. But I guess the rules don't apply as long as you have over 500 posts and are backing the mods. *shrugs*
 
#123
mharvey816 said:
I can only speak for myself, obviously, but if someone has a financial affiliation with a product, and they are promoting that product to others, then they should *always* disclose that fact. Always. Doesn't matter if it's on TV, on the radio, in the newspaper or on an Internet forum. If you don't, then it throws suspicion on you and everything you've ever said about that product. It doesn't matter if that's the greatest product *evah*. If you make money when someone buys it, then it's your duty to make sure people know that when you are telling them they should buy it. Period. Thanks to vlad for being a mod that cares.
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I'm quoting this because I think that this is the heart of the matter in a nutshell.
If the co-owner of SM is a Vuitton lover, and uses it on her bags, GREAT!! I wanna hear about it. But it is a MAJOR, ethically shady sin of omission to not disclose their financial stake in the company. This forum would disintegrate very quickly if this type of behaviour was not arrested.
 
#128
Just a quickie with my thoughts;

Firstly, I'm not refering to anyone that uses and loves SM. :0) I'm just very disappointed that it wasn't made clear that SMs greatest proponent is in fact an owner/part owner. If someone has so much faith in a product, then why not disclose your affiliation?

It has, unfortunately, as I was really, really keen to try this, made me think again in regard to trying to get hold of some.

I'd also like to thank Vlad for the heads up. Even playing field and all that....

K
 
#131
I joined in Feb. O6, have no ties to SM, but have been very, very happy with the product.
With any comment that is posted here or anywhere--it's always caveat emptor. To trust blindly is foolish, and we shouldn't blame the messenger, we should blame ourselves.
 
#132
caannie said:
No one SENDS me or anyone else anywhere, Allison. I am not a mindless robot that just shows up here whenever one of you frequently and erroneously attacks a friend of mine. But thanks for bringing up the history (YET again).

As far as SM, buy it, don't buy it, it makes no difference to me.
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As for being a mindless robot, I have no comment, but you do show up every time someone attacks a buddy of yours. Your friends aren't keeping a good track record around here at all.

As for bringing up history, I was stating a fact. Tammy was a follower who showed up for one reason, and then planned to stay for another. She made a dumb decision to promote her business to pocket members money. That's as bad as someone shilling their own auctions.
 
#133
You few people HAVE to stop using Vlad's thread to argue.
This is the last time I'll ask you to stop.
TAKE IT TO PM.

Elle, you names the person you were calling names in that thread where I removed the names you called them. Someone here said trolls or something w/o calling a person out - at least IMO I didn't know who she was referring to.
It WAS uncalled for and not nice, but she didn't directly call someone out as far as I could tell.

Use the 'Report this post button if you have a problem, DO NOT run all over someone else's thread w/ your own personal agenda's folks.
 
#134
allison said:
As for being a mindless robot, I have no comment, but you do show up every time someone attacks a buddy of yours. Your friends aren't keeping a good track record around here at all.
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Yes, that's called being a good friend. :rolleyes: As far as my friends' "track record" wasn't it determined by Vlad and the other mods that the person you unfairly attacked for selling fakes (a friend of mine) wasn't selling a fake at all and that you were wrong? Didn't everyone agree you were wrong? Did you ever apologize for that? So let's just say your track record isn't all that good either. :shame:

sorry swankymom, we were posting at the same time! I'll refrain from replying to personal attacks in this thread again. ;)
 
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