Reference: Guide to Hermes Scarves

[pallida]

I apologize if this is the incorrect thread, but does anyone happen to have the website reference photo of the model wearing the AW2016 90cm carre "Electrique" in cw 07 (rose pale/vert/mauve)? I am posting the flat reference photo below, but I am looking for the website photo of the scarf once tied. I checked La Maison des Carres (or at least, what's left of it! ), and they only have the flat image posted still, and I have scoured Google to no avail. I am thinking that a kind scarfie out there might have saved the image for referencing their collection. Any help would be appreciated.

Many thanks in advance!

 

[bunnycat]

I apologize if this is the incorrect thread, but does anyone happen to have the website reference photo of the model wearing the AW2016 90cm carre "Electrique" in cw 07 (rose pale/vert/mauve)? I am posting the flat reference photo below, but I am looking for the website photo of the scarf once tied. I checked La Maison des Carres (or at least, what's left of it! ), and they only have the flat image posted still, and I have scoured Google to no avail. I am thinking that a kind scarfie out there might have saved the image for referencing their collection. Any help would be appreciated.

Many thanks in advance!

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If no one sees this who has the scarf for a mod shot- you might try a google search with the name and colorway you are interested in and see if it links you to any of the mod shots from tpf from the AW 16 thread. That is easier than searching the thread itself or trying to plug through it with a spade and bucket....

It is Hermes Electrique by Dimitri Rybaltchenko.

ETA- I did a quick search- and here's a starter link to where some mod shots of HE show up. But am not sure if your colorway is in there. But it can give you a starting point to hopefully find a mod shot.

https://forum.purseblog.com/threads/the-fall-2016-scarves.939230/page-168

 

[pallida]

If no one sees this who has the scarf for a mod shot- you might try a google search with the name and colorway you are interested in and see if it links you to any of the mod shots from tpf from the AW 16 thread. That is easier than searching the thread itself or trying to plug through it with a spade and bucket....

It is Hermes Electrique by Dimitri Rybaltchenko.

ETA- I did a quick search- and here's a starter link to where some mod shots of HE show up. But am not sure if your colorway is in there. But it can give you a starting point to hopefully find a mod shot.

https://forum.purseblog.com/threads/the-fall-2016-scarves.939230/page-168

Thanks very much for the advice, @bunnycat!

I've googled the design name and colorway as well as the name of the colorway itself and the product code, done Google image-similarity searches using the other official website mod shots of the design, searched Pinterest and Instagram, used the Internet Archive to check the cached La Maison des Carres product webpage, and also done all of these searches anticipating the Anglicization of the design name to "Electric" (I like to think that I'm a decent internet sleuth, but maybe I just have too much time on my hands ). I also used the tpf search engine for "Electrique," which brought be to the AW16 and SOTD threads, but I couldn't find the official website model shot there through searches, so I am now scrolling through each page of the AW16 thread. No luck so far, although it has been fun to reminisce about that season. This is why I was hoping that a scarfie out there might have saved the official website image as part of their collection archive.

The search continues!

 

[marietouchet]

I apologize if this is the incorrect thread, but does anyone happen to have the website reference photo of the model wearing the AW2016 90cm carre "Electrique" in cw 07 (rose pale/vert/mauve)? I am posting the flat reference photo below, but I am looking for the website photo of the scarf once tied. I checked La Maison des Carres (or at least, what's left of it! ), and they only have the flat image posted still, and I have scoured Google to no avail. I am thinking that a kind scarfie out there might have saved the image for referencing their collection. Any help would be appreciated.

Many thanks in advance!

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[pallida]

A million thanks to you, @marietouchet!

 

[marietouchet]

A million thanks to you, @marietouchet!

You are welcome, unfortunately scarves tied pirate style are not so helpful, but that is the H photo

 

[HermesHope]

I wonder if anyone can help me. I am hoping to write a scarf profile of Coup de Fouet for my blog in the next week or so. I do this regularly for each of my Hermès scarves in turn. Quite a lot of information has been gathered so far, but I could really do with more, particularly the scarf design story. Oddly enough, I have got about half of it from somewhere, but would be so grateful if anyone could let me have the whole thing, plus any more information. I am covering both the original Coup de Fouet design and the later Coup de Fouet au Bloc as I actually own a twilly in the latter design.

Many thanks.

 

[bunnycat]

Thanks very much for the advice, @bunnycat!

I've googled the design name and colorway as well as the name of the colorway itself and the product code, done Google image-similarity searches using the other official website mod shots of the design, searched Pinterest and Instagram, used the Internet Archive to check the cached La Maison des Carres product webpage, and also done all of these searches anticipating the Anglicization of the design name to "Electric" (I like to think that I'm a decent internet sleuth, but maybe I just have too much time on my hands ). I also used the tpf search engine for "Electrique," which brought be to the AW16 and SOTD threads, but I couldn't find the official website model shot there through searches, so I am now scrolling through each page of the AW16 thread. No luck so far, although it has been fun to reminisce about that season. This is why I was hoping that a scarfie out there might have saved the official website image as part of their collection archive.

The search continues!

been there many times! I see @marietouchet saved the day with some sort of tied pic! (I wish they hadn't deleted the all.en site....)

 

[marietouchet]

I wonder if anyone can help me. I am hoping to write a scarf profile of Coup de Fouet for my blog in the next week or so. I do this regularly for each of my Hermès scarves in turn. Quite a lot of information has been gathered so far, but I could really do with more, particularly the scarf design story. Oddly enough, I have got about half of it from somewhere, but would be so grateful if anyone could let me have the whole thing, plus any more information. I am covering both the original Coup de Fouet design and the later Coup de Fouet au Bloc as I actually own a twilly in the latter design.

Many thanks.

I don’t remember if there was an official story ... it would have been an effusive hegemony without content since it is about a horse and whips - not much to say ? coup de court = snap of the whip , surely the whip is in the Hermes museum though , it is by Manlik about whom I know nothing
The bloc version is an overprinted rendering with an Indian wood block printed motif , as I remember ... Indian wood block printing was all the rage that season ... I don’t see the connection of the wood block print with the whip and horse but it was hot at the time ...

 

[marietouchet]

I don’t remember if there was an official story ... it would have been an effusive hegemony without content since it is about a horse and whips - not much to say ? coup de court = snap of the whip , surely the whip is in the Hermes museum though , it is by Manlik about whom I know nothing
The bloc version is an overprinted rendering with an Indian wood block printed motif , as I remember ... Indian wood block printing was all the rage that season ... I don’t see the connection of the wood block print with the whip and horse but it was hot at the time ...

I finally had access to all my books - I do not have a story for any of the 6 variations of CdF even one of the content-free unctuous stories from the web. Hegemony - what was I thinking ? Was having trouble translating the French word éloge - a laudatory exposition - not quite the same as praise - the Google translation, so much for my SAT-quality vocabulary skills lol

 

[HermesHope]

I don’t remember if there was an official story ... it would have been an effusive hegemony without content since it is about a horse and whips - not much to say ? coup de court = snap of the whip , surely the whip is in the Hermes museum though , it is by Manlik about whom I know nothing
The bloc version is an overprinted rendering with an Indian wood block printed motif , as I remember ... Indian wood block printing was all the rage that season ... I don’t see the connection of the wood block print with the whip and horse but it was hot at the time ...

Thank you so much for this. It has been really helpful and I have been able to finish writing the scarf profile. It will be published this evening.

 

[HermesHope]

I finally had access to all my books - I do not have a story for any of the 6 variations of CdF even one of the content-free unctuous stories from the web. Hegemony - what was I thinking ? Was having trouble translating the French word éloge - a laudatory exposition - not quite the same as praise - the Google translation, so much for my SAT-quality vocabulary skills lol

I think your language skills are amazing. So much better than my French!

 

[marietouchet]

I think your language skills are amazing. So much better than my French!

You are too king while I am tongue tied at times

 

[MidlifeFashionPrincess]

Good Morning Everyone

I think (hope) this is the right place for this question. Apologies in advance if it is not.

This is a multi-part question about (1 & 2) a specific scarf and (3) Hermes scarves in general. I'll try to be succinct.

1) The specific scarf I'm curious about is Ludovicus Magnus Louis XIV/Louis XIV. I understand this was originally released in 1963. I have seen photos of this scarf that shows the craftsman's signature (Françoise De La Perriere) with a period after the initial "F" as in "F. de LA Perriere" (blue scarf in attached photo) and without a period after the "F" as in "F de LA Perriere" (red scarf in attached photo). Please see the attached photo.

Can anyone tell me if the period after the "F" or the absence of that period is indicative of authenticity? Should I worry about the period or not?

2) Do we know the original colorways of this from 1963? hermesscarf.com shows the blue Louis as being issued in 1963. Presuming this is correct, doesn’t that mean every blue Louis is from 1963? Wouldn't a reissue be in different colors?

3) How do you guys know when a scarf is an original or reissue? Reissue dates? Changes to reissues (e.g. copyright additions). In a post from marietouchet from 2006 she states that her Louis XIV is unsigned and uncopyrighted, and hermesscarf.com says the blue Louis was issued in 1963. Does that mean if I find a blue Louis IXV with a signature it is a fake?

Please pardon all the questions. I'm trying to educate myself here but there seem to be so many loose threads on Hermes scarves (pardon the poor choice of words) and I am having a hard time getting my head around what is what.

Thanks in advance!

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[MidlifeFashionPrincess]

Red scarf with no period after the F.