Reference: Guide to Hermes Scarves

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Screenshot_2017-05-27-18-43-55~2.jpg Screenshot_2017-05-27-18-43-25~2.jpg Hi, I noticed something interesting today. Maybe someone knows something about it. We all know the label of hermes vintage scarf. Did you notice that some P sign ( dry clean) is underlined and others not?
I dont know how to explain it logically.
 
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The " standard" symbols have changed over time so these are caretags used at different times
If you research the dry clean chemicals corresponding to the f and p maybe iou can figure out which is earlier
The symbols are of course different today
Hope this message comes out ok , having to work at copying the refs from my phone , will have to wait til tomorrow for a reply from computer if I need to elaborate
 
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marietouchet said:
Ok the gif failed to post it is at bottom of web page with definitions of f and p
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Finally at desktop , the right and left sides of the tags «say» about the same thing. One side is in French & symbols, the other in English text
I think (hard to see) the first scarf (orange) has 2 dots with iron - meaning you can use a hotter iron than with scarf 2 (khaki only) - it only has 1 dot
So, the scarves differ in the recommended dry cleaning fluid F or P and the temperature for ironing
I presume F was an older dry cleaning formula since modern labels have the P on them. The web page identifies the chemicals
Perhaps, F was harsher than P ? Dont know why they changed... some guesses
1. F was too harsh and is no longer available - environmental reasons ?? The labels are both more than 20 years old
2. Dyes &/or sizing were changed necessitating a change in dry cleaning fluid & ironing temp
You could research the chemicals and possibly infer a date for the tags
Or, if you are able to EXACTLY identify the year of the silk exemplar - the year when printed , not first issue date - then you could try to work things out that way, but reissue / printing dates for Hermes are inexact, for the most part , so this approach might not be fruitful
 
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marietouchet said:
Finally at desktop , the right and left sides of the tags «say» about the same thing. One side is in French & symbols, the other in English text
I think (hard to see) the first scarf (orange) has 2 dots with iron - meaning you can use a hotter iron than with scarf 2 (khaki only) - it only has 1 dot
So, the scarves differ in the recommended dry cleaning fluid F or P and the temperature for ironing
I presume F was an older dry cleaning formula since modern labels have the P on them. The web page identifies the chemicals
Perhaps, F was harsher than P ? Dont know why they changed... some guesses
1. F was too harsh and is no longer available - environmental reasons ?? The labels are both more than 20 years old
2. Dyes &/or sizing were changed necessitating a change in dry cleaning fluid & ironing temp
You could research the chemicals and possibly infer a date for the tags
Or, if you are able to EXACTLY identify the year of the silk exemplar - the year when printed , not first issue date - then you could try to work things out that way, but reissue / printing dates for Hermes are inexact, for the most part , so this approach might not be fruitful
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I love your explanations, marietouchet!! It is like watching the experts on Antiques Roadshow - fascinating and brilliant!
 
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These are examples of mine voitures paniers with P and tropiques france with F. Unfortunately I have no way of to know a year. But I will find out when they changed the sign.
 

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Just thinking out loud , let's say the tag was supposed to be changed in 2000, maybe because the chemicals changed that year ....
Hermes , in a pinch , will put an obsolete / wrong tag on a scarf ... I presume the seamstresses run out of the correct ones and use up old ones in a drawer , or the new ones don't get sent out to everyone at Exactly the same time ...
so knowing the year the rag was supposed to change does not exactly tell you when the old tags stopped being used ... so my idea is flawed ...
Dating anything Hermes is a very inexact science
 
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Exactly. You're right. It is not as easy as it seems. But this is an interesting. It entangles me. I have a few hermes scarves but unfortunately I can not keep them for myself, I have to sell them. But do not bother to inquire about them more and more.
 
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