LV QUALITY CONTROL --- WHAT IS GOING ON??
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Yes! In addition, they are lined (not the lining of the bag but the actual canvas is lined) with different materials depending on what type of structure the bag was/is designed to have. I do hink they may have made a greater number of bags with thicker/different structural linings in the older days (think the old looping, old babylone). I wont comment on the quality issues...I do think the hardware has gone downhill - from brass to brass plate to "gold colored metal".
I don't want to take sides (the last time I did, a thread was closed for good), but the No1 priority should be freedom of speech. If someone wants to create a 100th thread about a Porte Clés being a little uneven, let them, but if another feels that it is ridiculous, let them say it.
Mocking and sarcastic comments are far from verbal abuse. They can be too much, but the 100th thread about the same marginal issue is just as much. And remember, a forced fake kindness is the worst. That is an instrument of a dictatorship. Most of you guys are lucky to never experience one, but as someone from Easter Europe, I wouldn't want any one to live a minute in one.
Mocking and sarcastic comments are far from verbal abuse. They can be too much, but the 100th thread about the same marginal issue is just as much. And remember, a forced fake kindness is the worst. That is an instrument of a dictatorship. Most of you guys are lucky to never experience one, but as someone from Easter Europe, I wouldn't want any one to live a minute in one.
Obsessing over a new purchase is one thing, but "my life is falling apart because the flowers aren't aligning" is just asking for the sarcasm to come out. 
Life's tough. Some people are just honest and to the point. Get used to it. Ain't nobody got time holding your hands and calling you "darling" & "my dear" all day long.
Life's tough. Some people are just honest and to the point. Get used to it. Ain't nobody got time holding your hands and calling you "darling" & "my dear" all day long.
At the end of the day... ain't nobody's reassuring "there, there, there's" .... "yes it is normal", etc going to ease the OP's who post these issues. Proven time and time again that they end up returning it anyway. So yeah, these threads are a nuisance and detracts from those who are seeking help with real defect issues? What we need is a "just return it" emoticon. 
To quote a mere cat "simples".
To quote a mere cat "simples".I do think there are newbies to the forum and brand that do sincerely ask the is it normal questions. Over the past few years it seems to have increased. It also seems to be harder to see multiples of some items at a store to compare...sometimes you can't even see a common item in the store. Or an SA questions why you want to see another of the same item. On the website, everthing looks perfect so when you open a box and find a flat speedy with creases, I can totally get why people have questions. DH refers to it a resuscispeedy. Maybe if the website posted a few more actual pictures of what you could expect to receive versus an idealized versions of the products there would be less questions???
Um, that would never happen. It's in every company's best interest to make their product look as appealing as possible. It's part of the fantasy. I mean, can you imagine if McDonald's or Subway were to provide pictures of what their actual sandwiches look like?
As for the title of the post, I have been buying since 2002. Back then, alignment (a common thread topic) did seem to be much better and a reasonable expectation and glazing seemed to last longer. My black epi speedy from 2003 still has hardware that looks much better than my speedy from a few years ago. I think a lot of the changes in quality do seem to be a result in increased demand and hurried production. I have had a few issues (2 wallets replaced, a defective ikat NF store credit, 2 items reglazed at no cost) and have been satisfied with the service I have received from LV.
Yeah...I know that it's never happening. But a lot of people get flamed because they expect items to be the same as what they see online and ask why it isn't. I get the fantasy aspect they are portraying, but I can acknowledge why someone may open a box, scratch their head and think what the @$%&!!! There's a big difference between a $5 sandwich and a bag costing 4 digits. My first black PM left me underwhelmed. I literally opened the box and thought, huh...that's it. The embossing wasn't very deep and it really didn't pop. My second was love.
Yeah, but the idea still applies regardless of how much the items cost. Remember that a $5 sandwich IS a luxury to some people, so any business needs to show its items in the best light possible.
I don't know if businesses still do this, but when I was growing up there was always fine print indicating that items would vary from the way they appeared in the photograph. That should be common sense by now for just about anybody who buys things that they've seen pictured in marketing materials.
If someone is upset because they spent a lot of money on something they ordered off a website and it turned out to not be as nice as how it was pictured, then maybe they shouldn't spend so much on items that they haven't had a chance to see in person.
Not everyone has access to see items in person. For me to get to a store, it is over 3 hours roundtrip to get there.
My last bag was DE Alma BB. It took 3 or 4 visits to see it in person. Not every item is in stock when people go to a store. People wait forever for mono PM's. Imagine waiting for months for something you clearly are not going see in person even if you make the trip, only to open it and see that the alignment is off and the lock is crooked - 2 common sources of threads around here. Speedies are also sometimes hard to get and then people have them shipped only get hardware that doesn't match.
My ikat NF that was defective became my Alma. I had 1 trip to drop it. Another to make the exchange for store credit...picked out a Croisette. Took time off of work both days to do so so I would not miss weekend time with DH. Came home to find some missing glazing on the loop that attached the top handle to the bag. Another trip to exchange with DH on a weekend. Needed to wait like 30 minutes early on a Saturday to do the exchange. While waiting bumped into the SA who sold me my Artsy and exchanged the NF. Mentioned I had an issue to hear the response....it is what it is...actual response...not kidding. Definitely not feeding the luxury fantasy. Ended with the Alma, a different SA and a good experience and DH's first purchase for himself. This was easily 10 hours of my time over 3 days and hundreds of miles.
My point is...I can totally get the is it normal questions and that doesn't bother me. I can bypass their threads. But if we can help someone avoid multiple trips to the store to help them decide if the "normal" LV they received is acceptable to them...why not pay it forward???
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I never claimed that everyone has easy access to a store.
If someone feels that they HAVE to have something so badly that it's worth spending hundreds or thousands of dollars on it without seeing it and handling it in person and/or they think it's worth making long-distance trips to boutiques that take hours and hours out of their days, then that's that person's issue with their relationship to material goods.
Why does anybody need these items so badly that they are willing to put themselves through so much trouble?
For instance, Dior has a boutique in my city and there are a number of Dior pieces that I'd like. However, the local boutique does not carry the men's line. Could I order things and send things back and forth? Sure. Could I travel to other cities with Dior boutiques that have the men's line? Sure. Is having any of those things worth the time, money, and annoyance that it would cause me? No. They're just things from a luxury label.
Then again, I'm also the type who feels that if it's not in store and an SA can't get it for me, then I can accept that I'm not getting it and I'm perfectly okay with that. There's always something else for me and I don't have to have everything that I like.
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You can actually, if you have pochette accessories because of the side that doesn’t have the leather tab it shows the real thickness of the canvas (without lining). I compare my PA bought in 2009 with Mini pochette bought in 2018 (returned because too small), canvas in 2009 is thicker BUT not a lot thicker. It’s hard to compare other bags because of the diffence in thickness of lining.I'm starting to wonder if thin-canvas-gate is really a real thing and someone has taken their old and new canvases apart and measure the thickness or did one person claim "Oh this FEELS THIN" and then everyone just agreed like sheep?