I really hope you get some positive news on your beautiful bag.
I'm in need of advice..my authenticated K28 is deemed fake by Paris HQ
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Agree! Never heard of H chipping the bags either. In any case, OP's bag is vintage. So it's irrelevant to OP's case anyway.
there is the date code and the artisan code
micro-chipping is unlikely to date back as far as the bag in question
micro-chipping is unlikely to date back as far as the bag in question
What I learned was that the letter and number stamp on the kelly identity its artisan so that when the kelly is sent back to Paris for repair or refurbishing, they will try to have the same artisan working on the same bag. So it makes sense to me that if the artisan does not identify the bag or have no record of it or same artisan is unavailable, then the bag maybe deemed fake by others with less knowledge. However, I honestly have my doubt who or if there is a mistake here. We know that superfakes were discovered with international chain of criminals in Asia and France, and at least 2 former Hermes artisans were arrested. And that is why I think even if you buy vintage, it’s important to ask for any proof of purchase, service receipt, etc., because even though those can be faked, they help to see if the entire situation adds up.
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OP, I just wanted to add my well wishes to the great number of them you have already received! I truly felt a pang of bag envy when I saw the pictures of your beauty! I hope that the situation resolves itself very soon, in your favor.
Your bag is beautiful! I am praying that you get it back soon. I find it very scary and utterly appalling that Hermes can't accurately determine if their own products are authentic. Regardless of whether this bag is, and I believe it is, from information in the rest of this thread, they have clearly made mistakes before. I mean, if we can't trust Hermes to get it right... ???
OP's bag is not vintage.
Ok sure not yet 20 years old but I was using it to refer to a bag which was not produced in recent year. So I used "vintage" as a loose term instead of saying "older" bag.
I have had time to delete most of this post because I re-read the thread from the beginning and could see that bababebi has given an opinion after reading nearly three pages of this thread.
I am still concerned that OP did not contact bababebi and get her advice before opening this public discussion.
I am still concerned that OP did not contact bababebi and get her advice before opening this public discussion.
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I once ordered a (non-Hermes) bag from an online site and received the wrong bag. Sharing what was happening with tPF members helped me feel some empathy as I was dealing with the paperwork, photos, customer service with the vendor. My situation is not too comparable to OP's, but I do understand the ups and downs of waiting.
Hope this current situation gets resolved to everybody's satisfaction.
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That may be so, but you should still be mindful that you might damage an innocent party's reputation.
This is a public forum and ramifications could be serious.
This is a public forum and ramifications could be serious.
I absolutely agree with you. The thread could have been handled without disclosing any third party's name. I had the opportunity to send my apologies to bababebi for my ignorance shortly after the thread was opened. I am glad she accepted it without reserve.
I am also glad to learn from the knowledgable tPF members that Hermes does make mistake on their own creations.
I looked at the picture of your bag and found it beautiful. The brique color is more of, say, a weathered brick than the orangey red of the brique B I turned down. I love yours. It also looks like it has zero wear. I didn't read the info on the mou leather.
So, I'm a bit out of the loop in terms of reading all the posts on this thread. Ceeyahd, I must have overlooked the reasons you wanted the bag authenticated. Did the bag actually go to Paris and has H "appropriated" it so to speak? The reason I am curious about your quest is that the bag is so da*m beautiful and the color so exquisite (according to the photo) that I wonder if I'd ever question the authenticity of this bag if I'd had a chance to purchase it. Which is not to say you shouldn't have, by no means, we're different people. I also have not paid for the bag as you have.
IMHO, that bag is so striking -- here goes -- that in my opinion it's not a fake. Of course that and $2.00 will get you a Starbucks coffee. However, I wonder what would make a counterfeiter duplicate a bag that has some unusual features. A potential customer for that kind of bag might know all about the features, look and feel of it. Wouldn't it be easier to knock-off a bag that is more mainstream?
I have fretted over pieces of H silver on the bay -- were they genuine or not especially as sellers don't always post the H signature and bracelet size. So I have appreciation for your concerns.
Could you live with the bag knowing that an H artisan doubted its authenticity?
I don't think that is her concern. She is afraid the Hermes won't return her bag to her since their policy and French law requires them to destroy fakes.
An H SA who was well known and loved and had sold many bags -- some to those on this forum -- suggested the possibility of a computer chip to me.
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