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Since this thread is now huge and the internal links to frequently asked questions no longer work, here is a brief FAQ for newcomers to the Hermes Special Order process.

What are the current choices for "a la carte" Special Order bags?
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What is an Hermes Special Order?
Each year Hermes gives select clients the opportunity to customize a classic bag in a made-to-order a la carte process. This thread is only for bag A La Carte orders (please use the separate threads for watch SOs and shoe SOs). "A la carte", "SO" (special order), and "HSS" (horse shoe stamp) are used interchangeably on this forum.

When is the Special Order season?
Currently, there is one SO season each calendar year, opening around the middle of February and closing when slots run out or the end of December, whichever occurs first. New SO menus are typically leaked in February and remain constant until the following calendar year. Individual stores have complete discretion on when, within this window, they offer SO appointments to their clients.

Which specs can I customize?
Hermes defines which specs can be customized and these specs can change each SO season. Generally these specs include: leather type, leather color, and hardware color. At your SO appointment, your SA will present you will the limited menu of choices including bag types and sizes (Birkin 25, Kelly 28, etc), pre-set combination designs (line, verso, multico, etc), leather choices, leather colors, hardwares, and a map for which options can be selected for which bag type and size. Not all leathers and hardwares are allowed for all bag types and sizes.

Can I make physical changes to a bag definition during SO?
Sometimes clients would like to change a physical aspect of a bag, like increase the handle drop or add a pocket or a strap. Unfortunately, Hermes does not allow any type of alteration to the bag definition during SO. For extensive changes like these, a client would need to pursue a “Horizon order” which can be read about here.

How long will my SO take?
There is no way to predict how long a SO will take from placing the order to receipt of the finished product. Although Hermes has recently put forward efforts to fulfill a la carte orders within a year, it isn’t uncommon for bags to arrive in just a few months or also much longer than the year estimate.

Can my SA give me status my existing SO?
Unfortunately, the info that can be seen by SAs at the local store is very limited. They can generally see if the order is still outstanding (ie hasn’t been cancelled) but do not get status updates beyond that. Some stores will update clients when they get notice that a bag has been shipped from Paris but other stores wait until the bag is physically in store before alerting the client.

Do I need to place a deposit for SO?
In most regions of the world, a deposit is not required for SOs. However, some Asian and Middle Eastern locations do seem to request at least a partial deposit. Deposits may also be required in other regions if the SO selections are very personalized (ie if you have your personal initials hot stamped onto the bag) such that selling the bag to a different client, if the original client declines the bag, would be difficult.

Do I receive confirmation of my SO after placing my order?
In most regions of the world, the client gives their specifications to their SA and that is the last they hear about it until the bag arrives. Paris stores seem to be an exception to this and send the client a confirmation email within a few weeks of placing the order.

Is there a premium for a SO bag?
No, there is no premium price for SO bags. Their price is the same as any other standard stock bag of the same specifications at the time of delivery.

Is my SO a quota bag?
SO bags are generally counted toward a client’s two-bags-per-year limit at the time that the bag is received and paid for. If a client has already maxed out their quota bag allocation for the year, some stores will allow an exception to purchase your SO as a third bag for the year while other stores will require the customer to wait until a new calendar year before receiving the bag. These policies are subject to be changed per store at their convenience so it is always wise to check with your specific SA.

Where can I get ideas for my SO bag?
This thread shows unique combination bags and this thread shows contrasting stitching bags. Please consider posting your bag there once it arrives!

Where can I see historical SO menus?
2024 on post 21,296 page 1420 Feb 7, 2024
2023 on post 19,874 page 1325 Feb 3, 2023
2022 on post 17,729 page 1182 Sept 13, 2021
2021 on post 15,439 page 1030 Aug 16, 2020
2020 on post 13,222 page 882 Aug 8, 2019
2019 on post 10,472 page 699 Sept 10, 2018
2018 on post 7,687 page 513 Sept 15, 2017
2017 on post 4,749 page 317 Sept 26, 2016
 
Please forgive my lack of knowledge on this as I’m very new to H, but is the color rouge grenat only available now through an SO? I’ve seen posts where it was said the color was rested (at least for the time being) but I now see rouge grenat on the list of available SO colors. Could one still order a birkin in rouge grenat without being offered an SO? Thanks for humoring me!

I just picked up my RG SO K25 end of July from FSH and my SA said RG is not being offered in regular collection, meaning u can only SO this particular color. There might still be some RG bags or SLGs “floating” around at several stores worldwide but for now if u want RG you’ll have to go through SO. It’s a very gorgeous Red, totally worth the wait imo :)
HTH!
 
I just picked up my RG SO K25 end of July from FSH and my SA said RG is not being offered in regular collection, meaning u can only SO this particular color. There might still be some RG bags or SLGs “floating” around at several stores worldwide but for now if u want RG you’ll have to go through SO. It’s a very gorgeous Red, totally worth the waiting imo :)
HTH!

Thank you so much for your response! That’s very good to know. Based on pictures, the color is absolutely beautiful [emoji7] and indeed worth the wait. Do you think the color mainly works for the fall/winter seasons or would you say it’s a shade of red that could be worn year round?
 
Thank you so much for your response! That’s very good to know. Based on pictures, the color is absolutely beautiful [emoji7] and indeed worth the wait. Do you think the color mainly works for the fall/winter seasons or would you say it’s a shade of red that could be worn year round?

To me personally it’s a “neutral red” that works for all seasons. I.e. u can “dress her up” with twillies and/or charms to fit the season :)
Good luck deciding dear!
 
Please forgive my lack of knowledge on this as I’m very new to H, but is the color rouge grenat only available now through an SO? I’ve seen posts where it was said the color was rested (at least for the time being) but I now see rouge grenat on the list of available SO colors. Could one still order a birkin in rouge grenat without being offered an SO? Thanks for humoring me!

There was a Rouge Grenat mini kelly in my boutique recently (USA).
 
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Hi Eagle! I don't have exp with Silver SO but do on Gold. I was scratching my head when my SA said we had to SO a ring that was clearly available on H.com but she said the size was not available in any boutique and she can't transfer any H.com stock. Bottom line is, she ordered the ring from Paris and it took 5 or 6 months to arrive. HTH! xo

Is this just for jewelry IF, because my SA gets things for me from H.com any time I see it on there but she doesn't have it.

Thank you, @disappeared.
My hunch is that stuff like my cuff that say on the web that there will be a delivery delay means that the item would be HTF in stores, i.e., the item isn't regularly carried. Maybe it once was but not now. I think by taking SO's for such items H gets a read on what the demand for these items are. That tells them that maybe the item should be regularly carried. So the item goes from a more-or-less "rested" state to being available immediately to walk-ins. But that's just my hypothesis.

Their strategy may also be a "just in time" (JIT) inventory strategy where items are manufactured on a "as requested" basis instead of $$ being invested in inventory that just sits around the store waiting to be sold. Actually, that sounds more like what's going one. The price of precious metals like gold and silver rise and fall over time. When the price is high, H would be better off manufacturing jewelry by SO rather than making sure all the boutiques are well stocked with jewelry.

Things that have a delivery delay online are definitely available in stores. I ordered a gold bracelet online and was told that there was a 6 month delivery delay for that size. It was in stock at FSH and I got it there. So these items are definitely being made regularly and are available at some stores. This just seems like another vagary of Hermes.
 
I’ve been having a bad experience with my first SO :(

As I’ve posted before, I placed it in December 2016, only to be told last month that it had been cancelled. My lovely SA felt terrible for me and did his best to find me a solution, so they created an extra SO slot for me this round, and I was told my order would be worked on on a priority basis.

I went in a few weeks ago to place my order - a Chèvre retourne K28, bleu saphir and bleu electrique with brushed GHW. However, my SA reached out to me a few days ago to say he hadn’t been able to punch the order in, because the system wasn’t showing chèvre as an option! He emailed Paris, and they didn’t know what was going on either - apparently they were also unable to find chèvre in the system! They said they’re going to look into it an get back to him, so waiting with all my fingers and toes crossed. I went into the store today to place my “backup” order, in case my first option doesn’t work out :(

Has anyone else heard of this issue/know what’s going on?
 
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Any one have an SO in Bordeaux colour bag or seen somewhere, please post photos here, that give me some idea on the 2nd colour I should pick.
Thanks

My SA showed me some SO “simulations” that they’d received as a pdf - one of the combinations shown was Bordeaux with Rouge Grenat. I really liked it - I’ve placed that as my standby order
 
I’ve been having a bad experience with my first SO :(

As I’ve posted before, I placed it in December 2016, only to be told last month that it had been cancelled. My lovely SA felt terrible for me and did his best to find me a solution, so they created an extra SO slot for me this round, and I was told my order would be worked on on a priority basis.

I went in a few weeks ago to place my order - a Chèvre retourne K28, bleu saphir and bleu electrique with brushed GHW. However, my SA reached out to me a few days ago to say he hadn’t been able to punch the order in, because the system wasn’t showing chèvre as an option! He emailed Paris, and they didn’t know what was going on either - apparently they were also unable to find chèvre in the system! They said they’re going to look into it an get back to him, so waiting with all my fingers and toes crossed. I went into the store today to place my “backup” order, in case my first option doesn’t work out :(

Has anyone else heard of this issue/know what’s going on?

I’m so sorry to hear this! However I find it very strange cause I just placed a Chevre K25 SO last week (Sept 12) at FSH and Chevre was definitely on the list. since u placed it few weeks ago, maybe Paris was still updating the new SO list, hence it didn’t show up yet in the system? I remember my SA saying that they’re updating the SO boxes as we speak, cause the Rose Tyrien swatch (1 I chose as lining) wasn’t in the box yet.
My SA also said that this particular Chevre SO will take longer :(

Oh well, as long as it’s approved and not cancelled I don’t mind waiting :) was mentally preparing for that LOL

Fingers crossed for our Chevre babies! Hope yr SA gets back to asap!! Keep us posted dear...
 
Is this just for jewelry IF, because my SA gets things for me from H.com any time I see it on there but she doesn't have it.



Things that have a delivery delay online are definitely available in stores. I ordered a gold bracelet online and was told that there was a 6 month delivery delay for that size. It was in stock at FSH and I got it there. So these items are definitely being made regularly and are available at some stores. This just seems like another vagary of Hermes.

She must get it for you from other boutiques as I was told (many times) they can't take merch from H.com inventory. Soooooo who knows.
 
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That's not what she said, and she even took the H.com item number from me. But as you say, whooooo knows.
And actually two different stores have done this for me. Sooooo who knows.
Yes dear... the mysteries of H. The item number is the same between H.com and the boutiques so it always good to have that to search the system. I was just told what I was told. In my most recent case, the ring I wanted was clearly on the website (in my size), yet she ordered it from Paris (and it took 5 months!). Maybe there was some other underlying reason. No clue.

Now I want a watch strap that she was going to transfer from Madison but they can't find it so guess what she said .... I will Special Order it from Paris. The terminology and rationale for things is baffling sometimes... Sorry to be off topic.
 
I think some SA just use the terminology "special order" to refer to anything which isn't currently available but needs to be ordered it. Which is OK of course. But the "a la carte" options are specifically done for people to customise their bag orders. Hence the discussion here on how long does it take are referring to leathers/colours availability etc. Jewellery doesn't normally subject to those availability because as much as we call them "precious metals", they are plenty of gold/silver and diamonds available to make the piece, which isn't not related to leather ability at all.
 
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