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Since this thread is now huge and the internal links to frequently asked questions no longer work, here is a brief FAQ for newcomers to the Hermes Special Order process.

What are the current choices for "a la carte" Special Order bags?
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What is an Hermes Special Order?
Each year Hermes gives select clients the opportunity to customize a classic bag in a made-to-order a la carte process. This thread is only for bag A La Carte orders (please use the separate threads for watch SOs and shoe SOs). "A la carte", "SO" (special order), and "HSS" (horse shoe stamp) are used interchangeably on this forum.

When is the Special Order season?
Currently, there is one SO season each calendar year, opening around the middle of February and closing when slots run out or the end of December, whichever occurs first. New SO menus are typically leaked in February and remain constant until the following calendar year. Individual stores have complete discretion on when, within this window, they offer SO appointments to their clients.

Which specs can I customize?
Hermes defines which specs can be customized and these specs can change each SO season. Generally these specs include: leather type, leather color, and hardware color. At your SO appointment, your SA will present you will the limited menu of choices including bag types and sizes (Birkin 25, Kelly 28, etc), pre-set combination designs (line, verso, multico, etc), leather choices, leather colors, hardwares, and a map for which options can be selected for which bag type and size. Not all leathers and hardwares are allowed for all bag types and sizes.

Can I make physical changes to a bag definition during SO?
Sometimes clients would like to change a physical aspect of a bag, like increase the handle drop or add a pocket or a strap. Unfortunately, Hermes does not allow any type of alteration to the bag definition during SO. For extensive changes like these, a client would need to pursue a “Horizon order” which can be read about here.

How long will my SO take?
There is no way to predict how long a SO will take from placing the order to receipt of the finished product. Although Hermes has recently put forward efforts to fulfill a la carte orders within a year, it isn’t uncommon for bags to arrive in just a few months or also much longer than the year estimate.

Can my SA give me status my existing SO?
Unfortunately, the info that can be seen by SAs at the local store is very limited. They can generally see if the order is still outstanding (ie hasn’t been cancelled) but do not get status updates beyond that. Some stores will update clients when they get notice that a bag has been shipped from Paris but other stores wait until the bag is physically in store before alerting the client.

Do I need to place a deposit for SO?
In most regions of the world, a deposit is not required for SOs. However, some Asian and Middle Eastern locations do seem to request at least a partial deposit. Deposits may also be required in other regions if the SO selections are very personalized (ie if you have your personal initials hot stamped onto the bag) such that selling the bag to a different client, if the original client declines the bag, would be difficult.

Do I receive confirmation of my SO after placing my order?
In most regions of the world, the client gives their specifications to their SA and that is the last they hear about it until the bag arrives. Paris stores seem to be an exception to this and send the client a confirmation email within a few weeks of placing the order.

Is there a premium for a SO bag?
No, there is no premium price for SO bags. Their price is the same as any other standard stock bag of the same specifications at the time of delivery.

Is my SO a quota bag?
SO bags are generally counted toward a client’s two-bags-per-year limit at the time that the bag is received and paid for. If a client has already maxed out their quota bag allocation for the year, some stores will allow an exception to purchase your SO as a third bag for the year while other stores will require the customer to wait until a new calendar year before receiving the bag. These policies are subject to be changed per store at their convenience so it is always wise to check with your specific SA.

Where can I get ideas for my SO bag?
This thread shows unique combination bags and this thread shows contrasting stitching bags. Please consider posting your bag there once it arrives!

Where can I see historical SO menus?
2024 on post 21,296 page 1420 Feb 7, 2024
2023 on post 19,874 page 1325 Feb 3, 2023
2022 on post 17,729 page 1182 Sept 13, 2021
2021 on post 15,439 page 1030 Aug 16, 2020
2020 on post 13,222 page 882 Aug 8, 2019
2019 on post 10,472 page 699 Sept 10, 2018
2018 on post 7,687 page 513 Sept 15, 2017
2017 on post 4,749 page 317 Sept 26, 2016
 
Finally picked up my SO this weekend. 23 months later, here is my Kelly Sellier 28 in Chèvre. Etoupe with BE lining and BGHW. Kept it simple and classic, something I know I'll love forever... Love how chèvre looks on Etoupe and BGHW! View attachment 4195655View attachment 4195656

Your bag looks beautiful nhoness, huge congrats and I completely agree with you by keeping it simple and classic [emoji3][emoji170]
 
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Just placed my SO today, and the colour option was opened so I picked sellier k25 saphir blue with Etoupe, chèvre and BGHW.

Anyone here know if Bordeaux colour b30 Togo leather still offer as regular bag ???? forgot to ask my SA today. I would love to have this colour as my next B30.

Thanks.
 
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Hi Tpfers, after several days of researching online and pondering on whether to order the blue saphir/blue paon or the etoupe/rose poupre lined Kelly 28 in chevre sellier, I have finally arrived at my decision!! It’s going to be black lined with blue electric for my first #horseshoestamp Kelly. My wonderful SA texted me this morning that my order has already been placed so see you same time next year or hopefully earlier..[emoji1317][emoji8]

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The price of gold and silver -- which are commodities as you suggest by saying there's plenty around and I agree -- is a manufacturing cost. H has to be sensitive to that. All jewelers have to be sensitive to that. I strongly suspect that chunky big pieces (the kind I like) tend to be manufactured when metal prices are low. High metal prices encourage design trends that lead to manufacturing manufacturing smaller, more delicate pieces.

In the past I had discussions with my SA about the kinds of hides that are used to manufacture H leathers. There are biologically-based cycles in cattle raising and that's going to affect the price of hides. Leathers will also vary in processing costs. So I would suspect (drum roll) that there are fluctuations in leather availability based on the price of hides (the raw material) and leathers (the processing component). Everything is available but at a price.
If a big company which has a lot of demand on commodities, like Hermes, and if they are running a "proper" operation, they would have used forwards, futures and options on the commodity market to hedge their risk on precious metal prices. Even if they didn't, they would just raise the price of their pieces to compensate the price increase on the raw material (this has happened in the past and will happen again in the future). The pieces are produced more likely to be based on demand. By the way, there is no guarantee a company can "predict" the price on the commodity market to allow them to "wait for the price to fall". No jewellers would operate like that. Just adjust your price like everybody else does.
Sorry for the off-topic discussion.
On topic, I personally find "a la carte bags" I ordered come in very randomly. I once had a 1-colour SO came after 3 months of placing it. I also have an SO which I waited nearly 3 years! And when I asked about it (before it eventually appeared), my SA always told me it was still in the system and it would come one day, don't lose hope! Ha! So I say don't lose hope indeed!
 
Hi Tpfers, after several days of researching online and pondering on whether to order the blue saphir/blue paon or the etoupe/rose poupre lined Kelly 28 in chevre sellier, I have finally arrived at my decision!! It’s going to be black lined with blue electric for my first #horseshoestamp Kelly. My wonderful SA texted me this morning that my order has already been placed so see you same time next year or hopefully earlier..[emoji1317][emoji8]

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Now the waiting game start
 
I feel like this is something they should offer as we are designing a bag. It’s hard to visualize SOs when looking at swatch cards. I bet there wouldn’t be as many rejected or resold SOs if they had 3D rendering on a app...not to mention you might get inspired by something you never thought to try. I couldn’t see it being that difficult to develop since large companies like Nike have been doing it forever.

I totally agree - I feel like it’s not a huge ask, and it would definitely help with the process!

My SA did mention that this is the first time he’s even seen these predesigned simulations though, so it feels like a step in the right direction.
 
Hi Tpfers, after several days of researching online and pondering on whether to order the blue saphir/blue paon or the etoupe/rose poupre lined Kelly 28 in chevre sellier, I have finally arrived at my decision!! It’s going to be black lined with blue electric for my first #horseshoestamp Kelly. My wonderful SA texted me this morning that my order has already been placed so see you same time next year or hopefully earlier..[emoji1317][emoji8]

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Congratulations, I love my noir Kelly with blue interior....so much that I ordered a raisin Kelly with a blue interior!!
 
Hi Tpfers, after several days of researching online and pondering on whether to order the blue saphir/blue paon or the etoupe/rose poupre lined Kelly 28 in chevre sellier, I have finally arrived at my decision!! It’s going to be black lined with blue electric for my first #horseshoestamp Kelly. My wonderful SA texted me this morning that my order has already been placed so see you same time next year or hopefully earlier..[emoji1317][emoji8]

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Sounds very striking !!!!
 
Hi Tpfers, after several days of researching online and pondering on whether to order the blue saphir/blue paon or the etoupe/rose poupre lined Kelly 28 in chevre sellier, I have finally arrived at my decision!! It’s going to be black lined with blue electric for my first #horseshoestamp Kelly. My wonderful SA texted me this morning that my order has already been placed so see you same time next year or hopefully earlier..[emoji1317][emoji8]

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Thank you for these pictures, they're helping me pass the time until my appointment! Can't wait to see your Noir/BE selection when it arrives! Congrats!
 
My first and only (thus far) SO came in on Friday. [This is a long description of the SO process]. It was a Hermes Osmose cuff which is currently on the website but as the site says, it's subject to delivery delays. I love it. The SO was placed in February, I think. In May I touched base with customer service -- this SO was not placed through a boutique -- and they said I was still on the list. Maybe a week or two ago I called again and this time I heard that the cuff was being handmade (I gather it was a "even as we spoke" situation). I was supposed to hear from Corporate next. I said, What's Corporate? Well, it's Customer Service.

Someone wrote here that they could hardly sleep waiting for an SO. I want to shake that person's hand, whoever they are. B/C once the cuff was on the radar, I was "where is it? where is it? " (Which I didn't say to anybody but I thought it). Anyhow, I can say it came quickly after hearing about corporate. Evidently 6 months is kind of a timetable for H at least for this kind of item. And I notice there are plenty of delay potential for a number of H silver items, according to the web site, i.e., "this item will be subject to a delivery delay."

I love the cuff. I had never tried it on before. It just wasn't around when I was looking at H silver years ago or if it was it was too small. I have an Osmose large model ring that I got a year or so ago. However, the cuff does not fit on the wrist that the ring fits. So, a new quest emerges: get another [smaller] Osmose ring to pair with cuff. (I am happy to have that quest. :smile:).
I wear the ring I have with the Chaine d'ancre Geant which is really oversized and very compatible with the ring and the cuff but not on the same hand. DH said each is a statement piece on its own. And he is right.
I cannot imagine how people wait patiently for bags for a year, two years, two and a half years, etc. I don't carry my H bags very much at all so I suppose I will never have an SO bag order as beautiful as those items can be.
But all in all, I am very pleased with my first SO experience.
A special order is specifically for a leather handbag which is made only for specific clients who have ongoing relationships with their boutique / sales associate. I began this thread because most of my SO's took about 2 years to come in but I had one that only took 71 days from the day I ordered it. So seeing the huge variation in wait times, I thought it would be interesting to see how long other SO's took to come in. Clearly some come in quickly and some take quite a long time. It is not for anything purchased from the H website or off the shelf in a boutique.
 
Hi Tpfers, after several days of researching online and pondering on whether to order the blue saphir/blue paon or the etoupe/rose poupre lined Kelly 28 in chevre sellier, I have finally arrived at my decision!! It’s going to be black lined with blue electric for my first #horseshoestamp Kelly. My wonderful SA texted me this morning that my order has already been placed so see you same time next year or hopefully earlier..[emoji1317][emoji8]

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xtnxtnxtn : CONGRATS dear! It’ll be pretty!! We can support each other while waiting for our Chevre babies to be delivered LOL

Did u choose contrast stitching too or different color of stitching?
 
If a big company which has a lot of demand on commodities, like Hermes, and if they are running a "proper" operation, they would have used forwards, futures and options on the commodity market to hedge their risk on precious metal prices. Even if they didn't, they would just raise the price of their pieces to compensate the price increase on the raw material (this has happened in the past and will happen again in the future). The pieces are produced more likely to be based on demand. By the way, there is no guarantee a company can "predict" the price on the commodity market to allow them to "wait for the price to fall". No jewellers would operate like that. Just adjust your price like everybody else does.
Sorry for the off-topic discussion.
On topic, I personally find "a la carte bags" I ordered come in very randomly. I once had a 1-colour SO came after 3 months of placing it. I also have an SO which I waited nearly 3 years! And when I asked about it (before it eventually appeared), my SA always told me it was still in the system and it would come one day, don't lose hope! Ha! So I say don't lose hope indeed!
Yes, they have to hedge (lock in) the price they are willing to pay by contracting.
I have heard jewelers can't raise prices quickly in response to increases in the price of gold b/c the customers will object. H raises prices at a predictable time every year so people are in a sense forewarned that the price could go up.
On the bag issue, what happens if you do an SO/a la carte bag order and it comes in 3 years later and the color is out of fashion. Does that mean for the past 3 years you couldn't order another SO and if so, all the time you waited was in vain -- assuming you couldn't use the bag? So much for "fast fashion" :(
 
A special order is specifically for a leather handbag which is made only for specific clients who have ongoing relationships with their boutique / sales associate. I began this thread because most of my SO's took about 2 years to come in but I had one that only took 71 days from the day I ordered it. So seeing the huge variation in wait times, I thought it would be interesting to see how long other SO's took to come in. Clearly some come in quickly and some take quite a long time. It is not for anything purchased from the H website or off the shelf in a boutique.
Gosh, does your last line imply that my bracelet order doesn't belong on this thread? [The thread is named "special order" and H did refer to my order as such]. Oh, surely you don't mean that? :crybaby: Waaaaaa:crybaby::crybaby:
 
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