Hermes Special Order Bags

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Since this thread is now huge and the internal links to frequently asked questions no longer work, here is a brief FAQ for newcomers to the Hermes Special Order process.

What are the current choices for "a la carte" Special Order bags?
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What is an Hermes Special Order?
Each year Hermes gives select clients the opportunity to customize a classic bag in a made-to-order a la carte process. This thread is only for bag A La Carte orders (please use the separate threads for watch SOs and shoe SOs). "A la carte", "SO" (special order), and "HSS" (horse shoe stamp) are used interchangeably on this forum.

When is the Special Order season?
Currently, there is one SO season each calendar year, opening around the middle of February and closing when slots run out or the end of December, whichever occurs first. New SO menus are typically leaked in February and remain constant until the following calendar year. Individual stores have complete discretion on when, within this window, they offer SO appointments to their clients.

Which specs can I customize?
Hermes defines which specs can be customized and these specs can change each SO season. Generally these specs include: leather type, leather color, and hardware color. At your SO appointment, your SA will present you will the limited menu of choices including bag types and sizes (Birkin 25, Kelly 28, etc), pre-set combination designs (line, verso, multico, etc), leather choices, leather colors, hardwares, and a map for which options can be selected for which bag type and size. Not all leathers and hardwares are allowed for all bag types and sizes.

Can I make physical changes to a bag definition during SO?
Sometimes clients would like to change a physical aspect of a bag, like increase the handle drop or add a pocket or a strap. Unfortunately, Hermes does not allow any type of alteration to the bag definition during SO. For extensive changes like these, a client would need to pursue a “Horizon order” which can be read about here.

How long will my SO take?
There is no way to predict how long a SO will take from placing the order to receipt of the finished product. Although Hermes has recently put forward efforts to fulfill a la carte orders within a year, it isn’t uncommon for bags to arrive in just a few months or also much longer than the year estimate.

Can my SA give me status my existing SO?
Unfortunately, the info that can be seen by SAs at the local store is very limited. They can generally see if the order is still outstanding (ie hasn’t been cancelled) but do not get status updates beyond that. Some stores will update clients when they get notice that a bag has been shipped from Paris but other stores wait until the bag is physically in store before alerting the client.

Do I need to place a deposit for SO?
In most regions of the world, a deposit is not required for SOs. However, some Asian and Middle Eastern locations do seem to request at least a partial deposit. Deposits may also be required in other regions if the SO selections are very personalized (ie if you have your personal initials hot stamped onto the bag) such that selling the bag to a different client, if the original client declines the bag, would be difficult.

Do I receive confirmation of my SO after placing my order?
In most regions of the world, the client gives their specifications to their SA and that is the last they hear about it until the bag arrives. Paris stores seem to be an exception to this and send the client a confirmation email within a few weeks of placing the order.

Is there a premium for a SO bag?
No, there is no premium price for SO bags. Their price is the same as any other standard stock bag of the same specifications at the time of delivery.

Is my SO a quota bag?
SO bags are generally counted toward a client’s two-bags-per-year limit at the time that the bag is received and paid for. If a client has already maxed out their quota bag allocation for the year, some stores will allow an exception to purchase your SO as a third bag for the year while other stores will require the customer to wait until a new calendar year before receiving the bag. These policies are subject to be changed per store at their convenience so it is always wise to check with your specific SA.

Where can I get ideas for my SO bag?
This thread shows unique combination bags and this thread shows contrasting stitching bags. Please consider posting your bag there once it arrives!

Where can I see historical SO menus?
2024 on post 21,296 page 1420 Feb 7, 2024
2023 on post 19,874 page 1325 Feb 3, 2023
2022 on post 17,729 page 1182 Sept 13, 2021
2021 on post 15,439 page 1030 Aug 16, 2020
2020 on post 13,222 page 882 Aug 8, 2019
2019 on post 10,472 page 699 Sept 10, 2018
2018 on post 7,687 page 513 Sept 15, 2017
2017 on post 4,749 page 317 Sept 26, 2016
 
I really like the B25 chèvre Noir with Rose Jaipur lining and stitching. It will really make your bag pop! I'm not a fan of Rose Jaipur combined with raisin or blue sapphire, just a personnel preference.

I would take advantage of ordering a chèvre bag if you are liking the color options. You can always find a K28 sellier out and about.

Good luck!

Hello is rj available as lining for chevre exterior? I thought we could only select both colors from the same leather group?
Tia
 
Hello is rj available as lining for chevre exterior? I thought we could only select both colors from the same leather group?
Tia

I've been scouring this thread and I will place my order in just over a week. I would love some advice on options. I have a few Birkins, a Kelly retourne, and Constance 24 (in blue sapphire Epsom). I am deciding between a B25 and K28 sellier, the latter of which has been on my wishlist for quite some time. I'm torn because I have wanted a Kelly sellier for a longtime, but that was before I had the option of chevre. I would love a chevre bag, but would only do a Birkin in chevre (just personal preference). For the Birkin, I would select BGHW in noir, raisin, or blue sapphire, likely with rose jaipur as the interior and contrast stitching. For the Kelly, I would do BGHW in raisin, blue sapphire, or blue indigo Epsom leather, with rose jaipur as the interior and contrast stitching.

You can see that I'm drawn to dark, neutral tones, and specifically blues. Any advice with my options? :frown:

HerLuv -- You are absolutely right! As has been explained to me, the interior would have to be another chèvre option that is also available as an interior option (i.e. etoupe, blue paon, etc.) I was recently looking at rose jaipur and blue paon (clemence or epsom) and had totally forgotten that in my earlier response to Rhl2987.

Rhl2987 -- I think blue paon and matching stitching would also be a good pop on chèvre noir. Blue paon should be good to go for an interior option for chèvre.
 
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HerLuv -- You are absolutely right! As has been explained to me, the interior would have to be another chèvre option that is also available as an interior option (i.e. etoupe, blue paon, etc.) I was recently looking at rose jaipur and blue paon (clemence or epsom) and had totally forgotten that in my earlier response to Rhl2987.

Rhl2987 -- I think blue paon and matching stitching would also be a good pop on chèvre noir. Blue paon should be good to go for an interior option for chèvre.
Sorry hun but that is absolutely incorrect. Here is a list that shows all available options on one page with different headers for exterior, interior (AKA LINING) and thread choices. I have no idea if this is the current list or not, I'm just showing an example of a chart.
For a chevre exterior, you have a lot of options for an interior other than other chevre colors.
 

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Sorry hun but that is absolutely incorrect. Here is a list that shows all available options on one page with different headers for exterior, interior (AKA LINING) and thread choices. I have no idea if this is the current list or not, I'm just showing an example of a chart.
For a chevre exterior, you have a lot of options for an interior other than other chevre colors.
This is the way it's supposed to work.

But more than one person has been told to select only from chevre exterior list rather than chevre pigmentée lining list. It happened to me last fall, via the head of leather at a flagship store. I will never understand Hermès!
 
This is the way it's supposed to work.

But more than one person has been told to select only from chevre exterior list rather than chevre pigmentée lining list. It happened to me last fall, via the head of leather at a flagship store. I will never understand Hermès!
Never heard of that. Why have a separate "lining" column? That's counter intuitive.
Neither me nor any of my friends who regularly place SOs in the US have heard of this... In fact, ******** ordered Blue Hydra chevre with RJ interior last round... and RJ was not offered in chevre. And she has it... I also know of a person who SO RA epsom with GP int and GP is not offered in epsom. So there goes that theory.
That is an ever more terrible selection rule for you poor folks....very hit or miss at the Flagship store it seems. Isn't the SA who offered RGHW for a birkin SO in FSH too??? They must have their own rules which change from SA to SA based on the stories I've heard. Very confusing.... and messes with my emotions! hahahahah
I'm SOOOOOO glad it's not a rule followed by the boutiques I've shopped at bc ordering a bag is confusing enough! hahahahha
 
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Sorry hun but that is absolutely incorrect. Here is a list that shows all available options on one page with different headers for exterior, interior (AKA LINING) and thread choices. I have no idea if this is the current list or not, I'm just showing an example of a chart.
For a chevre exterior, you have a lot of options for an interior other than other chevre colors.

While I will not say you are incorrect by any means (I do believe what you are saying), I stand by what I've been informed and what QF stated. It sounds like different stores tell clients different things which makes it all the more confusing!!
 
While I will not say you are incorrect by any means (I do believe what you are saying), I stand by what I've been informed and what QF stated. It sounds like different stores tell clients different things which makes it all the more confusing!!

True indeed dear.
But you don't have to believe what I'm saying, it's actually a proven fact.
2 SO periods ago, BH was offered in chevre and Jaipur was not.
As I stated before, Purebop ordered a chevre B30 in BH and RJ interior.
It's posted! Fact. I was going to make this order as well I wanted RJ exterior too much so I changed my mind....

This makes this thread terribly confusing for some too...
This is such a hot topic and I am often PMed about my opinion for SOs being offered and I have never followed the "pick from the same leather/color option listing for inside and outside" rule. I always use the lining list as a separate guide independent of outside leather choice except for one swift order. None of the orders placed over the past two years have followed that methodology over a wide span of US boutiques. All SOs accepted and delivered as ordered. Sooooo it is what it is. All based on individual experience.
 
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Never heard of that. Why have a separate "lining" column? That's counter intuitive.
Neither me nor any of my friends who regularly place SOs in the US have heard of this... In fact, ******** ordered Blue Hydra chevre with RJ interior last round... and RJ was not offered in chevre. And she has it... I also know of a person who SO RA epsom with GP int and GP is not offered in epsom. So there goes that theory.
That is an ever more terrible selection rule for you poor folks....very hit or miss at the Flagship store it seems. Isn't the SA who offered RGHW for a birkin SO in FSH too??? They must have their own rules which change from SA to SA based on the stories I've heard. Very confusing.... and messes with my emotions! hahahahah
I'm SOOOOOO glad it's not a rule followed by the boutiques I've shopped at bc ordering a bag is confusing enough! hahahahha

All I can speak to is my experience, which was in London. It didn't happen with other SOs, just that one.
 
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All I can speak to is my experience, which was in London. It didn't happen with other SOs, just that one.
I understand dear. Maybe it would be helpful when members asking for help, they identify what country they will place the order in so the members with experience in those countries can chime in... maybe that might make it less confusing by us providing conflicting info... :flowers:
 
From the wide variety of people's individual experiences, it seems that the real fact is that H does what it wants, when and where it wants. And there is a first for everything, whether or not it has been done in the past. Hmm? So many of us have their own stories/experiences, many of which I bet have not been posted.
 
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The manager asked me not to say anything at the time which I honored but he no longer works at Hermes. I had flown up to NY for the day to specifically pay for and pick up the bag, only to be told upon arrival that my kelly had been sold. The excuse was there was a new employee who saw the bag on a shelf and didn't know it was a special order. I've heard stories of SO's being sold to celebs or very wealthy clients only to have the original person who'd ordered the bag told some story about why their bag was gone. It's possible that's what happened with me. I'll never know. Regardless nothing was ever done to compensate my loss.

My name was definitely on the box. Pretty much everyone in that boutique knew who I was, I was in that store all the time.
That is in excusable....and I pretty much know all the players here. I am so sorry that this happened audreylita....hope they make it up to you in an epic SO way:).
 
That's exactly what I did, got up at 4 in the morning to catch a flight out of town so I could pay for and pick up the bag, and then was going to head straight back to the airport to fly home. Anyone who knows me knows I am totally about neutrals. But I was in fact offered another special bag for my trouble. A tri-color ostrich kelly. I really had to bite my tongue when they showed it to me.

Am I to take it that you were offered something completely different to what you ordered? Something that was way off the colour ranges you normally purchase at the store? Besides ostrich is definitly not everyones cup of tea and this one also had three different colours.

I think it is very poor manner of H to make you come to the store and then when you are most likely sitting on the plane sell it to someone else.
 
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