Hermes Special Order Bags

Since this thread is now huge and the internal links to frequently asked questions no longer work, here is a brief FAQ for newcomers to the Hermes Special Order process.

What are the current choices for "a la carte" Special Order bags?
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What is an Hermes Special Order?
Each year Hermes gives select clients the opportunity to customize a classic bag in a made-to-order a la carte process. This thread is only for bag A La Carte orders (please use the separate threads for watch SOs and shoe SOs). "A la carte", "SO" (special order), and "HSS" (horse shoe stamp) are used interchangeably on this forum.

When is the Special Order season?
Currently, there is one SO season each calendar year, opening around the beginning of February and closing when slots run out or the end of December, whichever occurs first. New SO menus are typically leaked in February and remain constant until the following calendar year. Individual stores have complete discretion on when, within this window, they offer SO appointments to their clients.

Which specs can I customize?
Hermes defines which specs can be customized and these specs can change each SO season. Generally these specs include: leather type, leather color, and hardware color. At your SO appointment, your SA will present you will the limited menu of choices including bag types and sizes (Birkin 25, Kelly 28, etc), pre-set combination designs (line, verso, multico, etc), leather choices, leather colors, hardwares, and a map for which options can be selected for which bag type and size. Not all leathers and hardwares are allowed for all bag types and sizes.

Can I make physical changes to a bag definition during SO?
Sometimes clients would like to change a physical aspect of a bag, like increase the handle drop or add a pocket or a strap. Unfortunately, Hermes does not allow any type of alteration to the bag definition during SO. For extensive changes like these, a client would need to pursue a “Horizon order” which can be read about here.

How long will my SO take?
There is no way to predict how long a SO will take from placing the order to receipt of the finished product. Although Hermes has recently put forward efforts to fulfill a la carte orders within a year, it isn’t uncommon for bags to arrive in just a few months or also much longer than the year estimate.

Can my SA give me status my existing SO?
Unfortunately, the info that can be seen by SAs at the local store is very limited. They can generally see if the order is still outstanding (ie hasn’t been cancelled) but do not get status updates beyond that. Some stores will update clients when they get notice that a bag has been shipped from Paris but other stores wait until the bag is physically in store before alerting the client.

Do I need to place a deposit for SO?
In most regions of the world, a deposit is not required for SOs. However, some Asian and Middle Eastern locations do seem to request at least a partial deposit. Deposits may also be required in other regions if the SO selections are very personalized (ie if you have your personal initials hot stamped onto the bag) such that selling the bag to a different client, if the original client declines the bag, would be difficult.

Do I receive confirmation of my SO after placing my order?
In most regions of the world, the client gives their specifications to their SA and that is the last they hear about it until the bag arrives. Paris stores seem to be an exception to this and send the client a confirmation email within a few weeks of placing the order.

Is there a premium for a SO bag?
No, there is no premium price for SO bags. Their price is the same as any other standard stock bag of the same specifications at the time of delivery.

Is my SO a quota bag?
SO bags are generally counted toward a client’s two-bags-per-year limit at the time that the bag is received and paid for. If a client has already maxed out their quota bag allocation for the year, some stores will allow an exception to purchase your SO as a third bag for the year while other stores will require the customer to wait until a new calendar year before receiving the bag. These policies are subject to be changed per store at their convenience so it is always wise to check with your specific SA.

Where can I get ideas for my SO bag?
This thread shows unique combination bags and this thread shows contrasting stitching bags. Please consider posting your bag there once it arrives!

Where can I see historical SO menus?
2023 on post 19,874 page 1325 Feb 3, 2023
2022 on post 17,729 page 1182 Sept 13, 2021
2021 on post 15,439 page 1030 Aug 16, 2020
2020 on post 13,222 page 882 Aug 8, 2019
2019 on post 10,472 page 699 Sept 10, 2018
2018 on post 7,687 page 513 Sept 15, 2017
2017 on post 4,749 page 317 Sept 26, 2016
 
I've been told several times by SAs that if a contrast stitch does not match the interior in a verso (meaning, it is neither ton sur ton nor inverse), it may be changed by the artisan. It has never happened to me, and I have several versos with differing stitching, but it's been mentioned 3-4 times in different stores. It's possible that Hermès is trying to keep the stitching combos a bit calmer now 🤷‍♂️

FWIW the only time I have ever had a bag come back with an artisan change it was in hardware (I don't know if it was a mistake or an opinion :lol: but they were right).
That was my assumption, stitching options are 100% in line with exterior colours offered (blues, neutrals…). I just wondered why they would not at least provide the stitching colors matching the interiors for the general options given they have to work with those few additional colors anyway. Either way, curious to see what next year will offer and if they will switch to red/pink etc., reducing the neutral options given this year is a bit limiting if one is not a fan of blues.
 
That was my assumption, stitching options are 100% in line with exterior colours offered (blues, neutrals…). I just wondered why they would not at least provide the stitching colors matching the interiors for the general options given they have to work with those few additional colors anyway. Either way, curious to see what next year will offer and if they will switch to red/pink etc., reducing the neutral options given this year is a bit limiting if one is not a fan of blues.
There IS a stitching color associated with every production color - usually tonal, occasionally contrast (Gold, Etoupe, Bleu Jean, etc.). It is not always the identical color or same color name. Sometimes it changes over the years (as with Raisin, which used to take Acajou stitching and is now tonal).

I haven't been into the A La Carte app yet, but my suspicion is that it's just not properly set up to reflect these choices. If it was built by the H.com team... :P
 
Hello!

Out of curiosity, do sales associates get commission for so? Exotic so?

Thank you in advance!
SO bags are no different than other bags. If you order a bag that SAs would normally receive commission for, they will receive commission for the SO version of it. And vice versa. In the US, SAs receive commission for all non quota bags.
 
There IS a stitching color associated with every production color - usually tonal, occasionally contrast (Gold, Etoupe, Bleu Jean, etc.). It is not always the identical color or same color name. Sometimes it changes over the years (as with Raisin, which used to take Acajou stitching and is now tonal).

I haven't been into the A La Carte app yet, but my suspicion is that it's just not properly set up to reflect these choices. If it was built by the H.com team... :P
Yes, sorry in case I wasn’t clear. I was referring to the overall stitching choices that were equally minimized in terms of colour range as the exterior leathers. Many blues, browns, neutrals, a couple of greens. But both deprived of the same color ranges.

On your point about the app - that is why I had asked earlier what other members had seen in terms of thread color ranges as I was certain that whole thing was full of glitches. Given I work in the IT sector, I am always amazed by the bad choices made by such a perfectionist company as H
 
Those that have recently done their SOs for 2024 already, what did you do? I need some inspirations before going in this Friday!
If it were for me to do a nice bag based on colours this year, I would imagine that rouge h or Bordeaux in combination with one of the darker blues plus GHW would look really nice - it does not fit in my wardrobe at all colourwise which is why I am not going to do this, but the bag itself should be very nice!
 
Was in my local boutique this week, and brought up, again, that I'd love the opportunity to do a SO. My SA told me that they haven't been offered any slots yet which is unusual, since they usually get offered them in February. Anyone else have a similar experience?
 
Going in this afternoon. I am stuck between doing a chevre Nata/Etoupe or epsom Craie/Biscuit for a mini kelly. Would love some thoughts!
Ooo! I'm actually waiting for my previous SO at the moment which is a similar combo! I was in a very similar situation as you. I was debating between Craie/Gris Asphalte and Craie/Gold, which I feel have similar undertones to the etoupe and biscuit. I eventually went with Gris A since I knew this would be more of my spring to fall bag, and my clothes for those seasons fit tend to be a bit more softer tones. I think Biscuit can have a tiny bit of a yellow undertone so I feel like it fit better with slightly more vibrant summer colors? Not sure if that helps but let me know what you end up choosing! Excited for you and hope it goes well :smile:
 
Ooo! I'm actually waiting for my previous SO at the moment which is a similar combo! I was in a very similar situation as you. I was debating between Craie/Gris Asphalte and Craie/Gold, which I feel have similar undertones to the etoupe and biscuit. I eventually went with Gris A since I knew this would be more of my spring to fall bag, and my clothes for those seasons fit tend to be a bit more softer tones. I think Biscuit can have a tiny bit of a yellow undertone so I feel like it fit better with slightly more vibrant summer colors? Not sure if that helps but let me know what you end up choosing! Excited for you and hope it goes well :smile:
ahaha I'm struggling with the same combinations!! or going with something completely different and colorful! what did you decide??

I went in today and my SA had an emergency and had to leave. Picked up some other stuff instead... but she said next week! Part of me was relieved because I still really do not feel ready to choose! I only have a balck sellier k25 and recently got a c18 in vert yucca. My dream has been a black mk but I feel like since its SO why not do two tone and make something special... I have noooo idea what to choose lol
 
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