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Since this thread is now huge and the internal links to frequently asked questions no longer work, here is a brief FAQ for newcomers to the Hermes Special Order process.

What are the current choices for "a la carte" Special Order bags?
Current color charts Page 1529 Post 22,934 February 16, 2025
Most Recently Known Selection Definitions (bag types, sizes, combos) Sept 4, 2021 - Probably out of date
Thread Choices for stitching. - Probably out of date
Lucky Symbols for stamping.


What is an Hermes Special Order?
Each year Hermes gives select clients the opportunity to customize a classic bag in a made-to-order a la carte process. This thread is only for bag A La Carte orders (please use the separate threads for watch SOs and shoe SOs). "A la carte", "SO" (special order), and "HSS" (horse shoe stamp) are used interchangeably on this forum.

When is the Special Order season?
Currently, there is one SO season each calendar year, opening around the middle of February and closing when slots run out or the end of December, whichever occurs first. New SO menus are typically leaked in February and remain constant until the following calendar year. Individual stores have complete discretion on when, within this window, they offer SO appointments to their clients.

Which specs can I customize?
Hermes defines which specs can be customized and these specs can change each SO season. Generally these specs include: leather type, leather color, and hardware color. At your SO appointment, your SA will present you will the limited menu of choices including bag types and sizes (Birkin 25, Kelly 28, etc), pre-set combination designs (line, verso, multico, etc), leather choices, leather colors, hardwares, and a map for which options can be selected for which bag type and size. Not all leathers and hardwares are allowed for all bag types and sizes.

Can I make physical changes to a bag definition during SO?
Sometimes clients would like to change a physical aspect of a bag, like increase the handle drop or add a pocket or a strap. Unfortunately, Hermes does not allow any type of alteration to the bag definition during SO. For extensive changes like these, a client would need to pursue a “Horizon order” which can be read about here.

How long will my SO take?
There is no way to predict how long a SO will take from placing the order to receipt of the finished product. Although Hermes has recently put forward efforts to fulfill a la carte orders within a year, it isn’t uncommon for bags to arrive in just a few months or also much longer than the year estimate.

Can my SA give me status my existing SO?
Unfortunately, the info that can be seen by SAs at the local store is very limited. They can generally see if the order is still outstanding (ie hasn’t been cancelled) but do not get status updates beyond that. Some stores will update clients when they get notice that a bag has been shipped from Paris but other stores wait until the bag is physically in store before alerting the client.

Do I need to place a deposit for SO?
In most regions of the world, a deposit is not required for SOs. However, some Asian and Middle Eastern locations do seem to request at least a partial deposit. Deposits may also be required in other regions if the SO selections are very personalized (ie if you have your personal initials hot stamped onto the bag) such that selling the bag to a different client, if the original client declines the bag, would be difficult.

Do I receive confirmation of my SO after placing my order?
In most regions of the world, the client gives their specifications to their SA and that is the last they hear about it until the bag arrives. Paris stores seem to be an exception to this and send the client a confirmation email within a few weeks of placing the order.

Is there a premium for a SO bag?
No, there is no premium price for SO bags. Their price is the same as any other standard stock bag of the same specifications at the time of delivery.

Is my SO a quota bag?
SO bags are generally counted toward a client’s two-bags-per-year limit at the time that the bag is received and paid for. If a client has already maxed out their quota bag allocation for the year, some stores will allow an exception to purchase your SO as a third bag for the year while other stores will require the customer to wait until a new calendar year before receiving the bag. These policies are subject to be changed per store at their convenience so it is always wise to check with your specific SA.

Where can I get ideas for my SO bag?
This thread shows unique combination bags and this thread shows contrasting stitching bags. Please consider posting your bag there once it arrives!

Where can I see historical SO menus?
2024 on post 21,296 page 1420 Feb 7, 2024
2023 on post 19,874 page 1325 Feb 3, 2023
2022 on post 17,729 page 1182 Sept 13, 2021
2021 on post 15,439 page 1030 Aug 16, 2020
2020 on post 13,222 page 882 Aug 8, 2019
2019 on post 10,472 page 699 Sept 10, 2018
2018 on post 7,687 page 513 Sept 15, 2017
2017 on post 4,749 page 317 Sept 26, 2016
 
Hi,
Im So excited and need your suggestions regarding MK SO
What contrast lining and stitching color would you pick for a Gold epsom and for a rouge de coeur chèvre ? Thanx in advance
Maybe @acrowcounted could link the current lining choices and thread colors in the sticky above. Would also be great to link the special combo bags thread (the current link in the sticky just redirects here to this thread) and the contrast lining (I can't find this thread, maybe it was merged? it was a great thread with lots of eye candy) and contrast stitching threads.

These could be of help for many such questions, and maybe more people would post their SOs in the reference section :flowers:
 
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Since this thread is now huge and the internal links to frequently asked questions no longer work, here is a brief FAQ for newcomers to the Hermes Special Order process.

What are the current choices for "a la carte" Special Order bags?
Current selection definitions (bag types, sizes, combos) Sept 4, 2021
Current color charts Page 1325 Post 19,874 February 3, 2023


What is an Hermes Special Order?
Each year Hermes gives select clients the opportunity to customize a classic bag in a made-to-order a la carte process. This thread is only for bag A La Carte orders (please use the separate threads for watch SOs and shoe SOs). "A la carte", "SO" (special order), and "HSS" (horse shoe stamp) are used interchangeably on this forum.

When is the Special Order season?
Currently, there is one SO season each year, opening around the end of August and closing in June. (FSH seems to be the exception with year round SO offerings.) New SO menus are typically leaked in August and remain constant until the following August. Individual stores have complete discretion on when, within this window, they offer SO appointments to their clients.

Which specs can I customize?
Hermes defines which specs can be customized and these specs can change each SO season. Generally these specs include: leather type, leather color, and hardware color. At your SO appointment, your SA will present you will the limited menu of choices including bag types and sizes (Birkin 25, Kelly 28, etc), pre-set combination designs (line, verso, multico, etc), leather choices, leather colors, hardwares, and a map for which options can be selected for which bag type and size. Not all leathers and hardwares are allowed for all bag types and sizes.

Can I make physical changes to a bag definition during SO?
Sometimes clients would like to change a physical aspect of a bag, like increase the handle drop or add a pocket or a strap. Unfortunately, Hermes does not allow any type of alteration to the bag definition during SO. For extensive changes like these, a client would need to pursue a “Horizon order” which can be read about here.

How long will my SO take?
There is no way to predict how long a SO will take from placing the order to receipt of the finished product. Most orders seems to take six months to a year, however it isn’t uncommon for bags to arrive earlier or much later than that estimate.

Can my SA give me status my existing SO?
Unfortunately, the info that can be seen by SAs at the local store is very limited. They can generally see if the order is still outstanding (ie hasn’t been cancelled) but do not get status updates beyond that. Some stores will update clients when they get notice that a bag has been shipped from Paris but other stores wait until the bag is physically in store before alerting the client.

Do I need to place a deposit for SO?
In most regions of the world, a deposit is not required for SOs. However, some Asian and Middle Eastern locations do seem to request at least a partial deposit. Deposits may also be required in other regions if the SO selections are very personalized (ie if you have your personal initials hot stamped onto the bag) such that selling the bag to a different client, if the original client declines the bag, would be difficult.

Do I receive confirmation of my SO after placing my order?
In most regions of the world, the client gives their specifications to their SA and that is the last they hear about it until the bag arrives. Paris stores seem to be an exception to this and send the client a confirmation email within a few weeks of placing the order.

Is there a premium for a SO bag?
No, there is no premium price for SO bags. Their price is the same as any other standard stock bag of the same specifications at the time of delivery.

Is my SO a quota bag?
SO bags are generally counted toward a client’s two-bags-per-year limit at the time that the bag is received and paid for. If a client has already maxed out their quota bag allocation for the year, some stores will allow an exception to purchase your SO as a third bag for the year while other stores will require the customer to wait until a new calendar year before receiving the bag. These policies are subject to be changed per store at their convenience so it is always wise to check with your specific SA.

Where can I get ideas for my SO bag?
This thread shows unique combination bags and this thread shows contrasting stitching bags. Please consider posting your bag there once it arrives!

Where can I see historical SO menus?
2023 on post 19,874 page 1325 Feb 3, 2023
2022 on post 17,729 page 1182 Sept 13, 2021
2021 on post 15,439 page 1030 Aug 16, 2020
2020 on post 13,222 page 882 Aug 8, 2019
2019 on post 10,472 page 699 Sept 10, 2018
2018 on post 7,687 page 513 Sept 15, 2017
2017 on post 4,749 page 317 Sept 26, 2016
 
Thank you so much @acrowcounted, @QuelleFromage, @nashpoo for writing me back. I narrowed down so a bit of progress!

I think reason why I am struggling is two cameleon color (GA on Epsom and GT in Chevre) looking so different in different light. Even for sure as leather I love Chevre over Epsom, however I think color is more important since from several meters away we notice more about color than leather.

I like elegance and a looking more "formal" than casual. I like dressing up.
Ladies, which "color set" do you think it is more "elegant" "dressier" and hint of "formal" in real life, not in pictures? :eek:

1. GA (2nd color : Craie ) on Epsom with permabrass
2. GT (2nd color : Nata) on Chevre with permabrass

Or.. should I go for reverse for more elegance? (GA or GT as 2nd color?)

Stitching
Tonal or Sakura or Mauve pale stitching. (Would Sakura stitching on GA or GT give more casual looks?
(I am also hoping artisan will pick up "pinkish" batch than yellowish batch and having Sakura stitch may make him/her pick a bit pinkish batch:no: or am I wishing too much?)
Unlike popular opinions, I am not big fan of white stitching on Gold or Etoupe since IMO it gives more casual impression.


My style is more like dress/skirt than pants. Lots of silks and laces. Prefer elegance.
My wardrobe is black, white, ivory, light blue, navy, light pastels - with a bit of blue/green added by twilly/Carre sometimes.
I do not wear strong color except I am on holiday at southern Europe (like D&G flowery dresses etc). I do not wear blue denim jeans nor denim jacket.

If mini kelly I would use strap (crossbody or hang from shoulder), if K25 I would use mainly on crook of my arm.

*Pictures from @Olivia915 (thank you!) for GA and @dailyloves , @LovinDesigner for GT (thank you both!) and resellers.

Comment would be so much appreciated!

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For multico, would you consider having the main color being lighter than the handle and sangles?
I vote for nata with GT as the secondary color with tonal stitching. If you want contrast I would do rose sakura since it’s a warmer pink and matches the warmth of nata.
 
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For multico, would you consider having the main color being lighter than the handle and sangles?
I vote for nata with GT as the secondary color with tonal stitching. If you want contrast I would do rose sakura since it’s a warmer pink and matches the warmth of nata.
I think I like main to be GT or GA.

Two Reasons ;
I believe "white-ish bags" is so elegant, beautiful and feminine which are the styles I love, so my natural tendency is of course Nata or Craie, but just because I am thinking of wearing crossbody if K20 and if K25 I would occasionally wear on shoulder, I am worried about back of K(20/25 but especially more with 20) will be colored by my darker coats.
I am a bit of OCD when comes to H bags - I have my Kelly belt in Blanc and use 3-4 times a week over 2 years, and even I am careful, I see "very very slight" change in color of white especially stitching which slightly bothers me... now I can use much easier with this "imperfection" which is a good point:eek: I think it is ok as you can "repurchase" a belt again, comparing to SO bags.

Another reason is that, I have lovely white himalayan (not from H but another brand) with GHW, and she is my special occasion/dinner bag. Size is somewhat between K20 and K25 and easy to match with all of my evening/cocktail dresses.
IF I get Craie or Nata on Kellys, it will be kind of similar to my himalayan "white" bag.

With those two reason, I am thinking of GT or GA to be main color.

I wear a lot of "black long coat" in fall/winter and my B25 Noir is already a perfect match (which I am so grateful to have:loveeyes:) but sometimes I want a variety. Black coat and Etoupe (Epsom) bag is a bit strong for me and I do not like Khaki-tone, so I look for something a bit lighter less Khaki-ish and less casual. Also, in Spring/Summer, Noir bag against my light blue, light green, mauve color dresses is a bit strong hence beige/grey is what I am lacking in my bag collection.

I would like my SO to be special, but I want to use it as one of my main bags.

If main is GT(Chevre) or GA(Epsom), which combo would you ladies choose, and why? And which size 20 or 25, and why?
 
I think I like main to be GT or GA.

Two Reasons ;
I believe "white-ish bags" is so elegant, beautiful and feminine which are the styles I love, so my natural tendency is of course Nata or Craie, but just because I am thinking of wearing crossbody if K20 and if K25 I would occasionally wear on shoulder, I am worried about back of K(20/25 but especially more with 20) will be colored by my darker coats.
I am a bit of OCD when comes to H bags - I have my Kelly belt in Blanc and use 3-4 times a week over 2 years, and even I am careful, I see "very very slight" change in color of white especially stitching which slightly bothers me... now I can use much easier with this "imperfection" which is a good point:eek: I think it is ok as you can "repurchase" a belt again, comparing to SO bags.

Another reason is that, I have lovely white himalayan (not from H but another brand) with GHW, and she is my special occasion/dinner bag. Size is somewhat between K20 and K25 and easy to match with all of my evening/cocktail dresses.
IF I get Craie or Nata on Kellys, it will be kind of similar to my himalayan "white" bag.

With those two reason, I am thinking of GT or GA to be main color.

I wear a lot of "black long coat" in fall/winter and my B25 Noir is already a perfect match (which I am so grateful to have:loveeyes:) but sometimes I want a variety. Black coat and Etoupe (Epsom) bag is a bit strong for me and I do not like Khaki-tone, so I look for something a bit lighter less Khaki-ish and less casual. Also, in Spring/Summer, Noir bag against my light blue, light green, mauve color dresses is a bit strong hence beige/grey is what I am lacking in my bag collection.

I would like my SO to be special, but I want to use it as one of my main bags.

If main is GT(Chevre) or GA(Epsom), which combo would you ladies choose, and why? And which size 20 or 25, and why?
Ooooh okay!! Makes complete sense.
I vote GT chevre in a mini Kelly!!
 
I've fortunately been invited to do a special order again and I'm on the fence between choosing a MK2 ostrich, K25 sellier ostrich, or B25 ostrich/mysore. I always have a preference over Kelly because of its strap and convenience to sling but i also feel that having a B25 in mysore or ostrich could be very special. I also suspect that this might be my last SO because SO is getting really difficult in my boutique.

I already have a few of all these sizes, any advice on which I should choose between the 3 designs?

MK2 - this size is my most used bag after my mini c's but i wonder how useful it will be for me as i get older and whether i will need a bigger bag later. currently i only carry a card case, lip balm, car keys, sanitiser and some tissue wipes so MK2 is the perfect size.

K25 - i rarely use it because it's a bit big and bulky for me but it does give me the flexibility to hold more if i want to carry more things with me especially when i'm travelling (e.g. passport, powerbank chargers)

B25 - i barely use this, maybe once every 6 months because it doesn't have a strap and is only handheld but i've kept it because it's so cute and i occasionally wear it for fun.

P/s: I am 163cm and I already know what colours i want, it's more a matter of choosing a design and its size. Does anyone have any good / sound advice to give or recommend to help me with my decision? :confused1:
 
I've fortunately been invited to do a special order again and I'm on the fence between choosing a MK2 ostrich, K25 sellier ostrich, or B25 ostrich/mysore. I always have a preference over Kelly because of its strap and convenience to sling but i also feel that having a B25 in mysore or ostrich could be very special. I also suspect that this might be my last SO because SO is getting really difficult in my boutique.

I already have a few of all these sizes, any advice on which I should choose between the 3 designs?

MK2 - this size is my most used bag after my mini c's but i wonder how useful it will be for me as i get older and whether i will need a bigger bag later. currently i only carry a card case, lip balm, car keys, sanitiser and some tissue wipes so MK2 is the perfect size.

K25 - i rarely use it because it's a bit big and bulky for me but it does give me the flexibility to hold more if i want to carry more things with me especially when i'm travelling (e.g. passport, powerbank chargers)

B25 - i barely use this, maybe once every 6 moths because it doesn't have a strap and is only handheld but i've kept it because it's so cute and i occasionally wear it for fun.

P/s: I am 163cm and I already know what colours i want, it's more a matter of choosing a design and its size. Does anyone have any good / sound advice to give or recommend to help me with my decision? :confused1:
I think you subconsciously wrote this to ensure everyone validates the option you clearly want. “Bag 1- is perfect, I love it and use it constantly. Bag 2- sounds like a good idea but I never use it. Bag 3- looks cute but I never use it.”

Get the mini kelly. If you need a different size/style “when you get older”, buy it “when you get older.”
 
I think you subconsciously wrote this to ensure everyone validates the option you clearly want. “Bag 1- is perfect, I love it and use it constantly. Bag 2- sounds like a good idea but I never use it. Bag 3- looks cute but I never use it.”

Get the mini kelly. If you need a different size/style “when you get older”, buy it “when you get older.”
thanks, i appreciate helping me validate this and what you said is true. i'm struggling because i feel like i already know what i want but maybe i'm also scared of fomo on bigger sizes given there is nothing wrong with them but perhaps not as suitable for my lifestyle at the moment.
 
First of all, please try to enjoy this process. It's really a special experience and your chance to create your dream bag and a unique heirloom simultaneously.

I am with you that Mini K does not need multico and IMO it's better verso. As long as you feel that you can and will get a Mini K at some point from your boutique (which if you've been offered SO you probably can) - I would go for K25. K25 is still small but much more useful than Mini K, and you have two B25s already. You can't do RGHW but you can do permabrass which is also lovely.

Gris T is fairly warm so would be a bit different from your Etoupe bag and of course very different from the Noir.

I choose chèvre every time for SO BUT yes, Gris T is different in chèvre than in Togo. Chèvre is more beige, Togo has more pink. It is still very beautiful in chèvre but I find it more...staid? neutral? Still, if you want sellier K it's chèvre or Epsom anyway and to me that is no choice at all. Chèvre is such a lovely leather.

A K25 sellier in any leather will hold its shape as there is a stiffening layer in the construction.

There have been a few GT/Nata combo bags posted and they are all insanely gorgeous.

Hope that helps?

It helped so much, thank you @QuelleFromage
I think you validated my idea that I like Mini K in verso slightly better than multico. But I perhaps want to add some "SO" touch with thread perhaps.

I do love pinkish tone of GT in Togo so much and B25 Togo GT was always in my wishlist.. I am even seduced to order it in GT and perhaps Craie with RGHW with Sakura or Mauve... or gorgeous Verso.

Probably I should post in contrast stitching page, but which stitching would match GT (for Chevre and Togo) and GA(Epsom)?
For GT I feel something pink but since Mauve Sylvestre is not available I wonder if Sakura looks too pale looking like white.
I also love blue-green range but hard to visualise..

I think If I get Mini K this time, I will have anyway K25 Sellier at some point. If I get K25 I will get Mini K at some point too.
If I get B25 togo, I will get Mini K and K25 at some point too... :loveeyes:
 
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