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I was watching a bag (listed at a crazy 5K) and when I went back it was under sold listings but the seller had reslisted the same bag, same bag code, receipt, etc. How do the sellers manage to show the item as "sold" when it clearly didn't sell? I see this often. I guess they might do it to make the item look like it's hot and worth more than it is - if someone new looks they will see 5K under sold and believe one sold for that. But it's obv some type of fraud/trick.
 
Yes, I took some of the key concepts from BB's letter and said (since she was asking for immediate feedback so she could list more bags) that I would apply that $30 towards an expedited authentication fee so that I could leave her feedback more quickly. I figured I would see if she still asked for the shipping reimbursement but she only responded back "OK." So in the end I left her feedback a few hours after I got the bag and did not pay the extra shipping. It is shocking that she did not use any insurance, that is such a huge risk to take. I wonder if she looked into insurance and balked at the price - I just shipped a similar item at a little lower price point and shipping was about $250 all together. If she was worried about an extra $30 then $250 would be major sticker shock (it always is to me too! I was expecting about $100 shipping fee myself :smile:

That was a brilliant and diplomatic way of handling this. I can imagine that, depending on the item, the authentication fee was much more than $30. Glad it all worked out.

Newb mistake, forgot to quote you :biggrin:
Gotta love your sense of humor :lol:
 
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I was watching a bag (listed at a crazy 5K) and when I went back it was under sold listings but the seller had reslisted the same bag, same bag code, receipt, etc. How do the sellers manage to show the item as "sold" when it clearly didn't sell? I see this often. I guess they might do it to make the item look like it's hot and worth more than it is - if someone new looks they will see 5K under sold and believe one sold for that. But it's obv some type of fraud/trick.
I believe that in many instances it could be that the sale was canceled by the seller for reasons like 0-feedback buyer, suspicious buyer, buyer lives in a country seller does not ship to, etc.
Or, like Bales25 mentioned above, it was cancelled for non-payment. Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't see the benefit of this fraud, 'cause if I look in the selling history of a seller and see that the exact item has already been sold before, I'd be more inclined to become a little suspicious instead of thinking that the item is hot. Was the item returned and if so, why?
 
I believe that in many instances it could be that the sale was canceled by the seller for reasons like 0-feedback buyer, suspicious buyer, buyer lives in a country seller does not ship to, etc.
Or, like Bales25 mentioned above, it was cancelled for non-payment. Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't see the benefit of this fraud, 'cause if I look in the selling history of a seller and see that the exact item has already been sold before, I'd be more inclined to become a little suspicious instead of thinking that the item is hot. Was the item returned and if so, why?
Ok, thanks, makes sense now that someone else helped think it through :smile:. I just tested this with my own stuff. I had a buyer request a cancellation yesterday and the bag shows up in the sold items, even though it's currently relisted. So also a buyer request to cancel.
 
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I believe that in many instances it could be that the sale was canceled by the seller for reasons like 0-feedback buyer, suspicious buyer, buyer lives in a country seller does not ship to, etc.
Or, like Bales25 mentioned above, it was cancelled for non-payment. Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't see the benefit of this fraud, 'cause if I look in the selling history of a seller and see that the exact item has already been sold before, I'd be more inclined to become a little suspicious instead of thinking that the item is hot. Was the item returned and if so, why?

Ok, thanks, makes sense now that someone else helped think it through :smile:. I just tested this with my own stuff. I had a buyer request a cancellation yesterday and the bag shows up in the sold items, even though it's currently relisted. So also a buyer request to cancel.

I was thinking the same thing.
I think sellers have to cancel more times than we would expect.
I was interested in an item a couple of days ago and had asked for more photos. A little later I saw that the item had sold so I sent the seller a message saying thanks anyway, but they responded that the buyer was asking for them to declare a lower value on shipping forms so they were canceling the sale.
It sold again and the seller had to cancel because the buyer didn’t pay.
It sold a third time and the buyer changed their mind.
It sold a fourth time (I don’t know what happened this time).
It finally sold for good a fifth time, but each of these show up as that the item was “sold”.
 
I have a friend who is selling a phone on ebay for $600 OBO. He has received two different offers from buyers with zero feedback who just joined ebay. The weird part is that the two offers are for the asking price--not a true "offer" for a lower price but not a buy-it-now either. The friend has not accepted either offer and reached out to ask if I thought it was a scam. My spidey-sense tells me it may be a scam but I don't know how. Any thoughts? I read this forum pretty regularly and don't remember seeing anything exactly like this. Any ideas or similar experience would be greatly appreciated.
 
I have a friend who is selling a phone on ebay for $600 OBO. He has received two different offers from buyers with zero feedback who just joined ebay. The weird part is that the two offers are for the asking price--not a true "offer" for a lower price but not a buy-it-now either. The friend has not accepted either offer and reached out to ask if I thought it was a scam. My spidey-sense tells me it may be a scam but I don't know how. Any thoughts? I read this forum pretty regularly and don't remember seeing anything exactly like this. Any ideas or similar experience would be greatly appreciated.
Does your friend require immediate payment if someone opts for the BIN price? The only reason I can think of that a member would make an offer that equaled the BIN price would be to delay payment by a few days if immediate payment is required if they went the BIN route......and that is not addressing the new member...no feedback aspect. :smile: I had a new member make me an offer a few days ago and I ignored it because of my “spidery-sense.”
 
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I have a friend who is selling a phone on ebay for $600 OBO. He has received two different offers from buyers with zero feedback who just joined ebay. The weird part is that the two offers are for the asking price--not a true "offer" for a lower price but not a buy-it-now either. The friend has not accepted either offer and reached out to ask if I thought it was a scam. My spidey-sense tells me it may be a scam but I don't know how. Any thoughts? I read this forum pretty regularly and don't remember seeing anything exactly like this. Any ideas or similar experience would be greatly appreciated.
Phones are high fraud scam magnets. (Is your friend also a fairly new seller, possibly with low feedback?)

I suspect what will happen is that if your friend accepts an offer, they'll receive a realistic looking paypal email saying that payment is made and will be released once tracking shows movement.

However the email will NOT be from paypal and the buyer will get a free phone. There'll be no seller protection because she didn't accept an approved payment.

My recommendation would be to block these buyers.

@MAGJES, I'm sorry your buyer was a flake! Except for the ID history, there weren't other red flags. Really, there weren't!
 
Does your friend require immediate payment if someone opts for the BIN price? The only reason I can think of that a member would make an offer that equaled the BIN price would be to delay payment by a few days if immediate payment is required if they went the BIN route......and that is not addressing the new member...no feedback aspect. :smile: I had a new member make me an offer a few days ago and I ignored it because of my “spidery-sense.”

Phones are high fraud scam magnets. (Is your friend also a fairly new seller, possibly with low feedback?)

I suspect what will happen is that if your friend accepts an offer, they'll receive a realistic looking paypal email saying that payment is made and will be released once tracking shows movement.

However the email will NOT be from paypal and the buyer will get a free phone. There'll be no seller protection because she didn't accept an approved payment.

My recommendation would be to block these buyers.

@MAGJES, I'm sorry your buyer was a flake! Except for the ID history, there weren't other red flags. Really, there weren't!

Well, things sure got interesting. Both bids were cancelled by 'administrative cancellations' and both buyers are now NARU'd. Thank you so much for your responses. I sent them to my friend and you were both right. Requiring immediate payment would direct them to the real paypal. Only with an offer could the phony paypal email be sent later. Thank you again.
 
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