"Women want a ring that p*sses off other women"

[whoops]

Slightly off topic but did anyone else manage to catch this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30v8SVUX0_8&feature=youtube_gdata_player

It's about a rather skinny bully being taped beating up a kid in Australia. Everyone just stood by and watched in the school. Even videotaping it shows the intention to firther embareas the kid. Eventually the kid fights back though and I doubt the bully will try anything else.

It's sad that bullying hasn't decreased but instead has become so much more creative. I could at least go home and know they wouldn't be there but now with twitter and Facebook and other social media it is harder to remove yourself and people are much more likely to bully behind a computer screen.

 

[Gimmethebag]

I wasn't bullied, but I had one frienemy that was just SO obnoxious and would constantly insinuate that she was better than everyone around her.

I wish karma would catch up to her. The latest on my Facebook feed is an obnoxious statement like, "Moved to L.A., got a job at Rolling Stone, bought a Prius... We have made IT!!!" Harmless, but obnoxious.

I joked with FI when we were engagement shopping that "I don't care about how big my ring is, just as long as its double the size of ...." Obviously joking, since FI wanted me to go as big as we could.

Usually, I downplay my ring unless someone specifically requests to see it. I grew up in the South and I don't know too many others that would have a 2ct Tiffany anything. It's not a big deal in bigger cities than Nashville, but I don't want old friends feeling uncomfortable around me because of "stuff."

 

[bunnymasseuse]

I love Denis Leary & I think there's an ounce of truth in what he's saying

I agree, he's probably one of my fav comedians!

 

[ame]

Slightly off topic but did anyone else manage to catch this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30v8SVUX0_8&feature=youtube_gdata_player

It's about a rather skinny bully being taped beating up a kid in Australia. Everyone just stood by and watched in the school. Even videotaping it shows the intention to firther embareas the kid. Eventually the kid fights back though and I doubt the bully will try anything else.

It's sad that bullying hasn't decreased but instead has become so much more creative. I could at least go home and know they wouldn't be there but now with twitter and Facebook and other social media it is harder to remove yourself and people are much more likely to bully behind a computer screen.

I think that the bully said in a tv interview that he feels no remorse and that people should feel sorry for him because he's bullied by the kid that fought back, despite outcry saying he is lying about being bullied.

Either way, it needs to not happen.

 

[OVincze]

Kids can be very nasty, it is the truth and it is weird how it was mainly girls that teased me and yes I do think that girls are nastier than boys for the most part and find it to be the case with adult women as opposed to adult men too for the most part. Men are usually a lot more upfront whereas women tend to imply things only and this is why there are often miscommunication problems between men and women as we expect them to guess what we want from what we are hinting it.

As to bullies I have gotten over it a long time ago too but I still remember things very clearly that hurt a lot. As I posted above I had a weight issue as a kid thought nothing severe but in addition I also had extreme hairgrowth and the other girls made fun of me because of that. To this day I still do not go out without wearing a pantyhose even in the highest heat even though I use a depilator. My sister who was really sick and almost died and got deaf because of ear infection and during surgery they cut her facial nerves was pick on horribly. It hurt me like someone stabbed me in the heart with a knife. They laughed at her and treated her like she was mentally retarded whereas she is an extremely intelligent person and is a researcher today and her face looks almost 100% ok amazingly. Ever since I find it really really low when someone is malicious, bullying, made fun of, etc. It is easy to pick on the ones that are weaker but it says a lot about those doing it.

I think we have to realize there is something wrong with those who are so malicious but back to the original post yes, unfortunately a lot of women are like the article stated. Wow, this is a really interesting discussion and it has brought back a lot of not so good memories but it is nice to hear there are others on here who can relate. And very importantly we have to remember that no objects, physical characteristics, money or even education make us better people, what really matters is how we treat others. Many of the aforementioned comes from what genes we got, what opporunities we had in life but how we treat others is a personal choice and one we are fully responsible for.

 

[Vegas Long Legs]

I wish karma would catch up to her. The latest on my Facebook feed is an obnoxious statement like, "Moved to L.A., got a job at Rolling Stone, bought a Prius... We have made IT!!!" Harmless, but obnoxious.

Never mind she has pretty low standards.
Oh gosh did I just say that. meow.

Perception

"He's got an interstate running through his front yard
And he thinks he's got it so good." Pink Houses - John Cougar Melloncamp

 

[shanam]

Am really showing my age, or maybe it was that I grew up in the midwest many moons ago?
I'm appalled at how some you of ladies were treated, my heart really goes out to you. Big hugs to all of you!
Boy, times & people have changed, & not for the better.

ITA! I never thought I would live to see the day when "bullying" is such a major issue and has caused so much grief. In my day it was called "being picked on" but if word got back to a parent, YOU were the one in trouble.

 

[bisbee]

ITA! I never thought I would live to see the day when "bullying" is such a major issue and has caused so much grief. In my day it was called "being picked on" but if word got back to a parent, YOU were the one in trouble.

Actually, I think "bullying" and "being picked on" are totally different.

I don't recall bullying going on when I was in school - I'm talking about the unrelenting torment that we hear about all too often today - ame, the story about what happened to you definitely falls into that category.

I was lucky in that I only remember being picked on very mildly - my children also were "picked on" because they had Tourette's Syndrome, but it didn't escalate to bullying, although it broke my heart that they had to suffer because of it, but children can be very cruel - that's nothing new.

True bullying has to be stopped and handled appropriately, and I think it's a good thing that it's become a prominent topic, but we have to remember not to lump everything in the same category. Not to say that being "picked on" should be tolerated, but the reaction to that doesn't need to have the same impact that the reaction to true bullying behavior should have!

 

[Vintage Leather]

Honestly, I tend to get enough envy in my life. I don't need big stones or obviously expensive items to flaunt that I am lucky and loved.
That being said, I am treated differently when I wear good jewelry and clothing. There is a bit more deference from strangers. And I will take advantage of that.
I haven't seen anyone from HS since the early 2000s. I had an odd experience in HS - I was a geek when that was a sign of being cool. So the pretty girls didn't fear or attack me because I didn't compete with them at all, the sporty girls thought I was somewhat funny, and the geeks elected me as their queen (yes, that was my title. I even had the circuit board tiara to back it up.)

LOL Honestly, I think it is true. If we really thought our rings only filled the purpose of symbolizing our love, would we really care about the carat size & how much it was worth? I don't think so.

Actually, the diamond engagement ring came about in the 1930s in the US when "breach of promise" suits were no longer enforceable in courts. If he dumped you before the wedding, you could sell the ring to pay for the cost of the wedding deposits and "loss of reputation". Love and diamonds is a very modern idea.

How about less weight snobbery here.

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To the topic, of course there's competitiveness in women, but a joke likes to exaggerate. Fine, it does this and we relate to the shred of authenticity in it. To me, though, a joke like this also expresses a certain anxiety about women.

Recycling old stereotypes about women serves to blow off steam in a time when women actually are achieving as never before, in high office throughout the world, in college in larger numbers than men, and sitting across the board table from the guys who chuckle at such jokes.

Like!

Never mind she has pretty low standards.
Oh gosh did I just say that. meow.

Perception

"He's got an interstate running through his front yard
And he thinks he's got it so good." Pink Houses - John Cougar Melloncamp

VLL - I love you.

 

[shanam]

Actually, I think "bullying" and "being picked on" are totally different.

I don't recall bullying going on when I was in school - I'm talking about the unrelenting torment that we hear about all too often today - ame, the story about what happened to you definitely falls into that category.

I was lucky in that I only remember being picked on very mildly - my children also were "picked on" because they had Tourette's Syndrome, but it didn't escalate to bullying, although it broke my heart that they had to suffer because of it, but children can be very cruel - that's nothing new.

True bullying has to be stopped and handled appropriately, and I think it's a good thing that it's become a prominent topic, but we have to remember not to lump everything in the same category. Not to say that being "picked on" should be tolerated, but the reaction to that doesn't need to have the same impact that the reaction to true bullying behavior should have!

I stand corrected. As someone above said, I forgot about
Facebook and Twitter and all the new ways kids torment others - to the point of kids ending their lives. it's horrible and needs to be fixed NOW.

 

[Liberté]

That's not the kind of woman you'd want to give a wedding ring... Regardless whether the marriage is based on "love" or other things (usually it's a mix anyways IMO).

 

[nld in nyc]

Regarding the previous posts, of course being overweight or "fat" has nothing to do with your overall success in life.

I am psyched for the girls that are overweight and proud- no disrespect. For me personally, it is not a desirable attribute. I recently gained a ton of weight and it does not work for me at all. It sucks to go shopping and not be able to wear the cutest clothes, etc. And I'm only a size 12/14; I can only imagine if I was truly "plus sized". Not to mention the increased risk of health complications that comes from being overweight. This fat girl needs to slim down, pronto.

I would never point out a weight problem in another person, though.

 

[GucciObsessed]

I have actually had more men IRL ask about my ring. They are usually ones to ask the inappropriate questions of size, cost and what my finace does for a living!

 

[skphotoimages]

Ok, I hate to rant, but being genetically skinny isn't any better than anything or anyone else. Everyone thinks people with an overage of weight are the ones with problems or the only ones picked on. Not true. No one wants to hear a skinny kids rant, but I'm going to anyway. I had the body of a skinny boy most of my life. There are times in my life where I had to eat special diets just to keep weight on. I'm always freezing or getting heat stroke. I spent the better part of my life not watching what I eat because I didn't think I needed to and now at 35 my cholesterol is higher than most overweight 50 year old men. I am soooo unhealthy on the inside. I never ever use the restroom at restaurants because I'm afraid people with think I have an eating disorder. I've dealt with people and even doctors my whole life accusing me of having eating disorders. And now at 35 I find that shopping for clothes is getting harder and harder because the clothes that fit me are meant for 12 year old girls.

I know I know, like I said, no one wants to hear the rant of a skinny girl, but if your going to talk about weight snobbery, please understand that there are extremes on both ends and just about everyone feels uncomfortable about there weight or their shape in one way or another.

Sorry for the off topic rant.

I may have been teased, but was never bullied. I think people knew better. I would have kicked some serious arse. I may not be perfect (who is) but I've always been strong and stood up for myself and for others who could not stand up for themselves. In the end that is what made most everyone friendly with me. They thought it was admirable that I didn't judge and didn't change who I was for anyone elses benefit.

My heart really breaks for those of you who were bullied by classmates and for those of you who were picked on by your family. I'm really not sure which is worse, both are unacceptable and I'm sorry for the pain you had, but so proud of all of you for becoming the people you are today

 

[grammyr]

Hehe! Funny post. But yeah, I think you're right, there's truth to it, at least about some women. Certainly no women that I'm friends with (hopefully!). I mean, women can be catty, and that can extend into many arenas, including status symbols like engagement/wedding rings. It's like that stereotype that men tend to support each other, while women tend to backstab one another.

Unfortunately ALL my friends were like that...to the degree that I once described my dream ring and before I had a chance to have it made one of my friends showed up wearing it! It's not even anything like she likes, so I have to believe it was to one-up me!