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How about less weight snobbery here.
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To the topic, of course there's competitiveness in women, but a joke likes to exaggerate. Fine, it does this and we relate to the shred of authenticity in it. To me, though, a joke like this also expresses a certain anxiety about women.
Recycling old stereotypes about women serves to blow off steam in a time when women actually are achieving as never before, in high office throughout the world, in college in larger numbers than men, and sitting across the board table from the guys who chuckle at such jokes.
Really liked your post. I considered mentioning some of the above points, but got too nervous, as I am new here and I was not sure if I should speak up or not.
To "Whoops"- As a fat person, I appreciate your apology, and I know that "fat" has sort of become the instant insult that people reach for. I get it.
To all- Hopefully when people see jellyv's comment they might think a bit about the other people who are posting/reading and be a bit less specific about those characteristics that they feel are symbols of not having succeeded at life. I know I try not to take these comments too personally, but yes, I wonder what people think when they see me, and it probably doesn't help me at all to know that my fears are actually true.
Just to clarify, I would just add that I myself was teased before for being fat when I was younger. I have never been "skinny" in my eyes and most of my relatives used to call me "fei mui" which means chubby/fat girl. I finally got to the gym and now am the smallest I've been since high school. My bf really taught me how to finally work out correctly.
I didn't mean it as not succeeding in life. My dad is currently over 200+ lbs and my boyfriend used to be 220lbs on a 5'7 frame. I would never insist that either failed because of it. it was more so to explain why I felt not necessarily happy but surprised that the same girls who used to tease me about it were larger than me the next time I saw them.
I'm also a firm believer that what really makes a person beautiful is the personality and demenour they elude as people. Size has nothing to do with it in this case and if a person is happy and smiling it will show. But when people who are mean spirited, no matter the size, they will always be unattractive. In the example of the girls from my school, they were mean and spirited and as in almost all high schools, thier good looks got them by and people tolerated their behavior. Now that theyve lost the looks, all that's left is the mean spirit and people finally see the person I saw in school.
I totally get what you are saying, and I want to let you know that I appreciate your response. There is also a difference between people becoming what they used to make fun of, which I would call "getting what's coming to them", and using fat as a generic insult, which I felt various posters were doing in this thread (and in society in general)-- I hope you don't think that I was only directing my comments at you. It was more of a, "hey, here's a chance to mention this, since jellyv already opened the door". Again, thanks so much for replying and no hard feelings to anyone above, either.![]()
I think deep down and subconsciously inside, we all want to show off a little - but not in a mean way. If this wasn't the case, there will be no reveals of any kind on PF!
I grew up and still live in the midwest. And I think bullying happens everywhere.Am really showing my age, or maybe it was that I grew up in the midwest many moons ago?
I'm appalled at how some you of ladies were treated, my heart really goes out to you. Big hugs to all of you!
Boy, times & people have changed, & not for the better.