This week’s UO: What’s up with hiding the Twillys? They are no longer on display, at least not in any of the three Vegas boutiques; you have to ask for them. I noticed this when we were here back in August and it’s still the case now. That’s how I started with the brand and I would have been too intimidated back then to even ask. Is H just hoping makeup and fragrance will draw in aspirational/new customers?
What’s your unpopular Hermes opinion?
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I would agree with most, but I was pleasantly surprised by the very clever design and superb practicality of the Saut 25. That bag is incredible for travel, providing easy access to documents while being very secure. May this be an UO!
We can start an unpopular, not billionaire, Hermes fan club @DME
I’ve already hit pause indefinitely
UO: even before this totally foreseeable upheaval, I told my H SA that I didn’t want to commit to two items of interest in the fall 2025 trunk show bc of the super high prices. She has always assured me that there is no commitment, ans this time was no exception.
UO: assume H madison would adjust their next season buy to reflect current reality, since they have to watch their budget more closely with local clientele
UO: it’s always possible, Dumas is speaking in such a positive way re future spending simply so as to reassure shareholders (and he doesn’t mean it)
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agree I love that bag..Just wish it came in a 28
My Unpopular opinionis that the Saut should have come in sizes 28 and 31.
I'm so pleased to hear your Saut 25 if wonderful, that makes me happy. Every time I think how fab a new design is, I later find out it's a reissue.
💯 such a fabulous bag, but that extra 3cms are crucial IMO; I need just a bit more room for a daily carry and would prefer not to overstuff the bag.
UO: 44 should NOT be considered a larger size. H sizing is really inconsistent even for a luxury brand. I currently wear a 36 from this season and a size 42 from 2018 (both leather coats)UO: a lot of times I’m convinced H just makes things with stretch or purposely baggy so it can fit a number of different body shapes. This sometimes results in N item not quite fitting anyone. While I love some of their items, it’s lazy for a luxury brand to do thisq*
UO. People should not buy leather RTW from Hermes without proper, complimentary tailoring. I’ve read in other threads that Hermes sometimes refuses to do sleeve shortening or charges in some boutiques and not others.
ETA: *sometimes FSH tailors have told
Me that the way something is designed, it’s impossible for them to shorten a sleeve or hem. Somehow, Chanel can make this happen for those of us who are not model tall and thin
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To build on this UO: if Hermes is going to do couture, they need to do a better job offering tailoring for their RTW pieces.
UO: a lot of times I’m convinced H just makes things with stretch or purposely baggy so it can fit a number of different body shapes. This sometimes results in N item not quite fitting anyone. While I love some of their items, it’s lazy for a luxury brand to do thisq*
UO. People should not buy leather RTW from Hermes without proper, complimentary tailoring. I’ve read in other threads that Hermes sometimes refuses to do sleeve shortening or charges in some boutiques and not others.
ETA: *sometimes FSH tailors have told
Me that the way something is designed, it’s impossible for them to shorten a sleeve or hem. Somehow, Chanel can make this happen for those of us who are not model tall and thin
For a company that supposedly sells men’s ties they certainly feel stuck in the past (like circa 2010)… The ties are far too narrow for the current proportions of tailored clothing.
Clothing also feels like a cheap afterthought… I was incredibly disappointed by the men’s and women’s rtw options at the boutique today.
I don’t know if its just me but I feel like H should focus more on their saddlery heritage by using saddle stitching and far more handwork in their leather rtw pieces.
Clothing also feels like a cheap afterthought… I was incredibly disappointed by the men’s and women’s rtw options at the boutique today.
I don’t know if its just me but I feel like H should focus more on their saddlery heritage by using saddle stitching and far more handwork in their leather rtw pieces.
1000000% agree. I’ve only had one Hermes tailoring experience and it was like pulling teeth. Super disappointing when paying top dollar.
UO: a lot of times I’m convinced H just makes things with stretch or purposely baggy so it can fit a number of different body shapes. This sometimes results in N item not quite fitting anyone. While I love some of their items, it’s lazy for a luxury brand to do thisq*
UO. People should not buy leather RTW from Hermes without proper, complimentary tailoring. I’ve read in other threads that Hermes sometimes refuses to do sleeve shortening or charges in some boutiques and not others.
ETA: *sometimes FSH tailors have told
Me that the way something is designed, it’s impossible for them to shorten a sleeve or hem. Somehow, Chanel can make this happen for those of us who are not model tall and thin
I agree that a 44 is not a larger size. Plenty of taller woman are a trim 44. H is not the worst though.
In Saint Laurent a 44 often doesn't exist.
Personally, I think it's understandable to have a case by case basis for alterations. Hermes is a leather-goods company that does fashion, not a fashion business that sells accessories. That includes clothes made of leather.
Personally, for tailoring, I would rather buy a tailored jacket that fits off the rack - or have one MTM. Most suit jackets can only have sleeves shortened from the shoulder not cuff. I have a fitted tailored (wool) Hermes jacket and the sleeves are a touch long but I wouldn't touch it. I have been too disappointed by alterations in the past. For shirts it's a bit easier, they reattach the cuff higher.
Chanel sometimes deny requests for alterations if it alters the proportions/design aesthetic of the garment too much. I had to go to an independent tailor to put darts in a C leather waistcoat to take in the bust (or where one would be
).
My friend bought two Equestrian leather dresses in NY (she lives in South America), she took them brand new for tailoring at FSH (she has property there) and they were very upset, charged her 300 euros a dress and said they were doing her a favor. They were so rude.
UO: a lot of times I’m convinced H just makes things with stretch or purposely baggy so it can fit a number of different body shapes. This sometimes results in N item not quite fitting anyone. While I love some of their items, it’s lazy for a luxury brand to do thisq*
UO. People should not buy leather RTW from Hermes without proper, complimentary tailoring. I’ve read in other threads that Hermes sometimes refuses to do sleeve shortening or charges in some boutiques and not others.
ETA: *sometimes FSH tailors have told
Me that the way something is designed, it’s impossible for them to shorten a sleeve or hem. Somehow, Chanel can make this happen for those of us who are not model tall and thin
They should have complimentary tailoring everywhere at the prices they charge.
This is so odd to me. Even retailers like lululemon will take any piece from any store at any time for tailoring. Silly that H won’t do this at the prices they charge.
ETA: And that’s free of charge.
UO: if you want a consistent result with in house H tailoring, it’s best if your SA is really good friends with
the tailor they call down. My SAs in NY and FSH advocate for the right changes to be made.
UO: I honestly believe, even though other TPFers have vehemently disagreed with me, that the fact that the account holder is DH, who orders men’s bespoke and MTM really makes a difference in how the tailor treats me. (At FSH or my local both)
For example. For this seasons women’s tuxedo jacket, Hermes offered to shorten the length; shorten the sleeves; change the buttons; and let out the back slightly. Bc DH was standing there and this is the kind of tailoring service men expect. (I still didn’t buy t(e tuxedo jacket). ETA: it also helps that DH is a stickler for proper fit.
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