I have an opinion which, especially here, seems likely to actually be unpopular. Who are these people who need 100 strangers to weigh in on which bag they should get and what hardware is better? If you don’t know yourself well enough to be able to decide you should not be spending this much money. AND the bag should make you gasp with joy, if it doesn’t don’t buy it - no strangers opinion will make you love it.
What’s your unpopular Hermes opinion?
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💯 💯 💯: it seems like a lot of newcomers to the brand seem to need external validation of strangers. ETA: to be fair, this IS a monumental purchase, but it’s like asking if you should buy a black or silver sports car.
But, if you are one of the undecided, UO: the popular ones go in waves or cycles. This decade/generation, it’s gold leather, GHW. Last decade, it was etoupe leather, PHW.
UO: IMO (or it’s my theory) that the popularity of H hw is staggered, depending on if your mother carried a chanel bag with GHW AND if her mother carried an H Kelly or look alike with gold/brass HW. (I’m resisting GHW bags bc the horror of the eighties with bright gold hw has scarred and scared me, even though DH and my independent jeweler have converted me to YG jewelry)
Since these should be forever bags at this price point, another UO coming up, a buyer has at least a 50% chance of getting it right, seriously, with or without TPF weighing in.
ETA: for a minority of TPF, whether gold or etoupe renders one’s skin tone ot entire wardrobe to be muddy seems to be a secondary consideration. UO: that factor should probably be given more weight, but YMMV
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Again I’m made to LOL in 💯 agreement….
“Do you think I should accept ——?”
“Do you like this color?”
“Shall I return the bag I just bought?”
“Why do you suppose I haven’t received my offer yet?”
I am going to consider obtaining my next medical board certification…”congratulations now triple boarded in Hermes Psychotherapy!”😁🙃
Seriously buy what you love and ENJOY it!!!🥰
Just putting my 2 cents in.. So many of these comments appear to be psychological
with @880 sharing her thoughts as well as @lafab
As someone who started purchasing Kelly bags in the late 70's, these questions were never much
of a concern. Hermes on 57th was chock full of bags. SA's were friendly & there was no pre-spend
One didn't worry "how to dress" or "what to say".
We were all comfortable in our own skin & Hermes was looking to build their business.
Let's face it there are many who want to fit in, carrying the right bag, wearing the right watch,
the right piece of "hot jewelry" sends the message I belong & can spend comfortably & easily.
The world of business especially H has changed for many of us.. For the better, who can say?
The pre-spend for me would not work because I'm only interested in RTW, shoes & perhaps some
FJ, so the secondary market has more appeal for me. In addition to having fun looking for pieces
that I've missed out on.
People should be buying the bag that makes their heart sing. Period. Know yourself. Strangers
don't know how you live, how you dress, what your lifestyle is.
Is the H bag giving you an identity? A level of security?
People are going into debt to keep up with others for a bag to prove something? What??
Enjoy what you own & find your own bag peace, JMO
with @880 sharing her thoughts as well as @lafab
As someone who started purchasing Kelly bags in the late 70's, these questions were never much
of a concern. Hermes on 57th was chock full of bags. SA's were friendly & there was no pre-spend
One didn't worry "how to dress" or "what to say".
We were all comfortable in our own skin & Hermes was looking to build their business.
Let's face it there are many who want to fit in, carrying the right bag, wearing the right watch,
the right piece of "hot jewelry" sends the message I belong & can spend comfortably & easily.
The world of business especially H has changed for many of us.. For the better, who can say?
The pre-spend for me would not work because I'm only interested in RTW, shoes & perhaps some
FJ, so the secondary market has more appeal for me. In addition to having fun looking for pieces
that I've missed out on.
People should be buying the bag that makes their heart sing. Period. Know yourself. Strangers
don't know how you live, how you dress, what your lifestyle is.
Is the H bag giving you an identity? A level of security?
People are going into debt to keep up with others for a bag to prove something? What??
Enjoy what you own & find your own bag peace, JMO
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I was just about to post this same thing. Related UO: If your goal is to crowd source tPF to figure out what’s popular so you can flip it, please, please, please leave the bag for someone who actually wants that combination to buy it.I always wonder if people who make these posts are fishing for whether or not the bag has enough interest from outside parties to be considered a "good investment" for potential resale value. Anything that asks "is X hardware or X bag popular?" triggers that thought for me tbh. I don't personally consider H bags an investment so I buy what I like and plan to hoard my bags until the end of time, so maybe I am jaded whenever I read those posts
That is so well expressed; exactly!
They are a mechanism to show off how you have been favoured by your, invariably 'lovely' SA.
Everyone above has shared excellent perspectives.
On that note, I’d like to add an UO —
I think personal style and what makes one’s heart sing changes over time, with age and experience.
In my 20s, I gravitated towards more unisex/androgynous-looking attire and accessories, which were the color black or served as a loud/edgy pop of color and I preferred silver-toned hardware and jewelry. My approach to buying was more impulsive and I didn’t factor much into my buying decisions other than whether the item itself looked cool to me and I liked prominent logos. I hadn’t yet developed a personal style and was still figuring out who I was and trying things out (unbeknownst to me at the time, who thought I knew exactly what I was doing and didn’t realize when I was being influenced by trends, influenced my emotion instead of logic, or trying to project an image/seek validation).
In my 30s, I did not magically become perfect/stoic and I still remain impacted by natural human emotions/tendencies/some outside influences, but I gravitate towards entirely different things than I did in my 20s. I now prefer more “traditionally” feminine-appearing attire and accessories in a variety of neutral colors, with a focus on how their size, fit, and shade suits my own individual appearance (skin tone, hair color, body type) and lifestyle. I also now prefer yellow gold hardware and jewelry, which I have realized better suits my individual appearance. I also now consider what I already own and enjoy wearing to make more strategic and intentional decisions about what other items to add to my closet that would complement those items. I also now prefer a more subdued look, with subtle logos or no logos, and place a much higher value on quality and durability of items. I am also very, very picky/particular about what I like (what makes my heart sing) now and do not really deviate or experiment.*
*That being said, perhaps my future 40-something year old self will look back and laugh at how much my style ends up changing by then.
I think it’s correct to assume that those folks asking PF members what items look better and what items to buy likely haven’t yet figured out their personal style or what they subjectively like wearing or like the appearance of. Based on my own style journey, I tend to assume those people are just young and still in an experimental stage of figuring out what they like and developing the self confidence needed to not seek outside influence/external validation when making decisions. Alternatively, they may just be older folks who did not develop any interest in these kinds of items until later in life and are early on in their personal style discovery and experimentation journey.
Either way, my inclination is to give them the benefit of the doubt and chalk it up to a lack of experience rather than assuming there is something wrong with them (…unless it’s obvious they’re asking questions for the purpose of buying to resell & profit or to do the cringy influencer selling-advice-for-profit thing).
On that note, I’d like to add an UO —
I think personal style and what makes one’s heart sing changes over time, with age and experience.
In my 20s, I gravitated towards more unisex/androgynous-looking attire and accessories, which were the color black or served as a loud/edgy pop of color and I preferred silver-toned hardware and jewelry. My approach to buying was more impulsive and I didn’t factor much into my buying decisions other than whether the item itself looked cool to me and I liked prominent logos. I hadn’t yet developed a personal style and was still figuring out who I was and trying things out (unbeknownst to me at the time, who thought I knew exactly what I was doing and didn’t realize when I was being influenced by trends, influenced my emotion instead of logic, or trying to project an image/seek validation).
In my 30s, I did not magically become perfect/stoic and I still remain impacted by natural human emotions/tendencies/some outside influences, but I gravitate towards entirely different things than I did in my 20s. I now prefer more “traditionally” feminine-appearing attire and accessories in a variety of neutral colors, with a focus on how their size, fit, and shade suits my own individual appearance (skin tone, hair color, body type) and lifestyle. I also now prefer yellow gold hardware and jewelry, which I have realized better suits my individual appearance. I also now consider what I already own and enjoy wearing to make more strategic and intentional decisions about what other items to add to my closet that would complement those items. I also now prefer a more subdued look, with subtle logos or no logos, and place a much higher value on quality and durability of items. I am also very, very picky/particular about what I like (what makes my heart sing) now and do not really deviate or experiment.*
*That being said, perhaps my future 40-something year old self will look back and laugh at how much my style ends up changing by then.
I think it’s correct to assume that those folks asking PF members what items look better and what items to buy likely haven’t yet figured out their personal style or what they subjectively like wearing or like the appearance of. Based on my own style journey, I tend to assume those people are just young and still in an experimental stage of figuring out what they like and developing the self confidence needed to not seek outside influence/external validation when making decisions. Alternatively, they may just be older folks who did not develop any interest in these kinds of items until later in life and are early on in their personal style discovery and experimentation journey.
Either way, my inclination is to give them the benefit of the doubt and chalk it up to a lack of experience rather than assuming there is something wrong with them (…unless it’s obvious they’re asking questions for the purpose of buying to resell & profit or to do the cringy influencer selling-advice-for-profit thing).
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Hahaha. I wonder if people often guess that Evelyns and Constances and shoes with the H etc. are Tommy Hilfiger. :`D I'm going to check to see if they an oran look-alike. Too funny.
Everyone above has shared excellent perspectives.
On that note, I’d like to add an UO —
I think personal style and what makes one’s heart sing changes over time, with age and experience.
In my 20s, I gravitated towards more unisex/androgynous-looking attire and accessories, which were the color black or served as a loud/edgy pop of color and I preferred silver-toned hardware and jewelry. My approach to buying was more impulsive and I didn’t factor much into my buying decisions other than whether the item itself looked cool to me and I liked prominent logos. I hadn’t yet developed a personal style and was still figuring out who I was and trying things out (unbeknownst to me at the time, who thought I knew exactly what I was doing and didn’t realize when I was being influenced by trends, influenced my emotion instead of logic, or trying to project an image/seek validation).
In my 30s, I did not magically become perfect/stoic and I still remain impacted by natural human emotions/tendencies/some outside influences, but I gravitate towards entirely different things than I did in my 20s. I now prefer more “traditionally” feminine-appearing attire and accessories in a variety of neutral colors, with a focus on how their size, fit, and shade suits my own individual appearance (skin tone, hair color, body type) and lifestyle. I also now prefer yellow gold hardware and jewelry, which I have realized better suits my individual appearance. I also now consider what I already own and enjoy wearing to make more strategic and intentional decisions about what other items to add to my closet that would complement those items. I also now prefer a more subdued look, with subtle logos or no logos, and place a much higher value on quality and durability of items. I am also very, very picky/particular about what I like (what makes my heart sing) now and do not really deviate or experiment.*
*That being said, perhaps my future 40-something year old self will look back and laugh at how much my style ends up changing by then.
I think it’s correct to assume that those folks asking PF members what items look better and what items to buy likely haven’t yet figured out their personal style or what they subjectively like wearing or like the appearance of. Based on my own style journey, I tend to assume those people are just young and still in an experimental stage of figuring out what they like and developing the self confidence needed to not seek outside influence/external validation when making decisions. Alternatively, they may just be older folks who did not develop any interest in these kinds of items until later in life and are early on in their personal style discovery and experimentation journey.
Either way, my inclination is to give them the benefit of the doubt and chalk it up to a lack of experience rather than assuming there is something wrong with them (…unless it’s obvious they’re asking questions for the purpose of buying to resell & profit or to do the cringy influencer selling-advice-for-profit thing).
How do you relate that to Hermes?
Is it because you don't think that younger people shouldn't be shopping there?
I think you may be correct from your own retrospective POV, but not all people are the same. Young people may make expensive H mistakes, but it's their own money and their choice.
I read their post as: don’t automatically assume that someone is a reseller or has malicious intents just because they’re asking for advice on which bag they should accept.
Although I agree- I don’t think there are any “shoulds” if you’re choosing solely based on your preferences and personal style.
To add my own UO- when buying Hermes (specifically bags) considering the resale value or potential financial gain is ridiculous and need not be considered if you’re truly buying for your pleasure and use.
Apologies if my post was long-winded and my message got muddled/lost. Yes, young people (all people) should spend their money however they want to, including at Hermes.
My post was intended to agree with the posts above mine: 1) that the only way to love your purchase decisions is to make choices based on your own personal preferences, 2) that when someone posts questions about what to buy/what bag colors + hardwares others prefer at Hermes, it tends to indicate the poster is not sure of their own preferences and style and lacks confidence to make purchase decisions without outside opinions/validation, and 3) their post also creates valid suspicion in readers that the poster might be a reseller/marketer who is just trying to gather data to maximize their profit.
I then wanted to add my opinion on why I think we see these types of questions so frequently posted on PF—which is that more likely than not, the poster is someone who hasn’t yet figured out their personal style and developed self-confidence in making independent decisions without outside influence. My reasoning, in large part derived from my own experiences but also from general observation, is that it seems common for everyone to be in that state of mind at some period during their life, particularly in their younger years before they’ve had an opportunity to acquire as many of the experiences that help develop their self-confidence and personal style preferences.
I understand the personal style etc… but somethimes it CAN reassure aswell that IF you choose badly… you CAN always sell it for the original price.
I have a recent purchase in mind, which was a total surprise. I was not prepared for that bag offer, and I loved the leather and color but the style and size were something totally new for me. Knowing I could resell that bag for a small upmark but at least recoup the total amount if I found out I made a mistake, was very helpful… especially due to the high prices. I did end up taking out all stickers and now that bag is defenetly mine.
UO: when you’re not prepared for a bag offer, those SA’s turn up with great offers.
Agree, but I find some of these posts difficult to comprehend because :
UO: if one truly doesn’t know which bag to accept, then I think the prospective purchase is based on FOMO,
and most likely that person should not buy either.
UO: someone short (I’m 5’2, medium build; in todays sizes 36 chanel or Hermes) can wear all sizes of bags well.
Here: 32K, 28K, 25K sellier; 28BBK retourne; MKII; 42 JPG fringe Kelly. It’s all good. With Celine jeans size 38 (though I could have probably gotten a 36 for a closer fit) and a reg t shirt
ETA: Crossposted in H in action. These are forever bags, or they should be for the price. So, regardless of big or small scale, they are classic. And, a big bag makes one’s backside look smaller
NOte: Victoria Beckham looked great carrying big bags
Here: 32K, 28K, 25K sellier; 28BBK retourne; MKII; 42 JPG fringe Kelly. It’s all good. With Celine jeans size 38 (though I could have probably gotten a 36 for a closer fit) and a reg t shirt
ETA: Crossposted in H in action. These are forever bags, or they should be for the price. So, regardless of big or small scale, they are classic. And, a big bag makes one’s backside look smaller
NOte: Victoria Beckham looked great carrying big bags
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