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Don't you just HATE "Road salt season"?!? I just keep my Coaches stashed away until early April, by which time you'd hope even the laziest of lazy slobs would have been motived to get to a carwash and blast that last thick layer of crud off their vehicles. And when I'm grocery shopping I'll throw an extra plastic produce bag in my cart just in case the last remaining carwash holdout has decided to park their 1988 Buick 11 inches away from my Suby.
You drive a Suby, all my family have them. My ex is a technician he’s been working on these 40 years...what do you have?
 
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But in Colorado most people make the effort to actually learn to drive on snow and ice - something we in the Midwest are a bit more lax and lazy about. The stupid maneuvers I've seen some people pulling especially on the interstates would turn your hair gray. (I'm biting my tongue here and refraining from pointing at the typical Chicago-area SUV owner!). NO, PEOPLE, 4-wheel drive does NOT mean that you can keep doing 60MPH on snow and ice, the laws of physics still apply. And even road salt isn't going to save your butt when it's 10 below zero and those melting compounds just don't work any more. Slow the he!! down!

IS IT SPRING YET ????
Winter is tough in some areas. Having experienced winter in different ways I see it a little differently than I did before. I grew up in the midwest and winter was very cold most of the time, and there was always some kind of snow or ice on the ground. The use of chemicals was a little different because it depended on what the air temperature was going to be and if that element would be helpful for that winter storm or not.

Out in Virginia we still have winter, but the temps are much milder so any winter storm eventually means that the snow melts very quickly. Salt is used a lot out here, but it needs to be. The difference I have seen is that in the midwest where I was, everything was very flat and the roads were easier to use in winter conditions--plus you had to use them as winter was constant.

We need to treat the roads well here in Virginia because we have so many curvy and hilly roads. During the actual snow event, roads become dangerous very quickly so you become used to not using them (unless there is an emergency) until the actual snowfall stops. At that point the chemicals and snowplows can quickly make a huge difference. But the chemicals are an important part of that.

We used to think when we moved here that people can't drive in it, which is true for some, but many are transplants, so that is not necessarily true. We just have to be more realistic about the roads -- hills and a slippery road do not mix well in the worst conditions. I commute 45 minutes to work and take several different kinds of highways--one of which has many curves and a huge S curve hill that you just would not use in the midst of the actual heavy snowfall--either you couldn't come up or you would hit someone coming down.

That all said, I haven't had issues on rainy or snowy days carrying any of my bags--they all come out all year. lol!
 
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You drive a Suby, all my family have them. My ex is a technician he’s been working on these 40 years...what do you have?

A 2003 Forester that's still going strong, with only 55,000 actual miles. Not just the best car I've ever owned, but the best car I've ever DRIVEN. Not the fanciest, but totally dependable. And I sold cars in the Chicago area with several large dealerships and different manufacturers so I've had a chance to drive a lot of different cars, from Chryslers to BMWs.

I LOVE MY SUBY !!! :love:
 
When I lived in CT they used fine grade sand for when it snowed, so everyone's side windows would get lines on them from the sand cutting the glass due to getting caught up in the grooves. Road salt is the worst though, every other snow weather place I've lived has used it. Now I am in a no snow zone, so I don't have to think about which bags I can and cannot use. But if I ever go home at Christmas, it's the black bags that go, that's for certain :lol:
 
Winter is tough in some areas. Having experienced winter in different ways I see it a little differently than I did before. I grew up in the midwest and winter was very cold most of the time, and there was always some kind of snow or ice on the ground. The use of chemicals was a little different because it depended on what the air temperature was going to be and if that element would be helpful for that winter storm or not.

Out in Virginia we still have winter, but the temps are much milder so any winter storm eventually means that the snow melts very quickly. Salt is used a lot out here, but it needs to be. The difference I have seen is that in the midwest where I was, everything was very flat and the roads were easier to use in winter conditions--plus you had to use them as winter was constant.

We need to treat the roads well here in Virginia because we have so many curvy and hilly roads. During the actual snow event, roads become dangerous very quickly so you become used to not using them (unless there is an emergency) until the actual snowfall stops. At that point the chemicals and snowplows can quickly make a huge difference. But the chemicals are an important part of that.

We used to think when we moved here that people can't drive in it, which is true for some, but many are transplants, so that is not necessarily true. We just have to be more realistic about the roads -- hills and a slippery road do not mix well in the worst conditions. I commute 45 minutes to work and take several different kinds of highways--one of which has many curves and a huge S curve hill that you just would not use in the midst of the actual heavy snowfall--either you couldn't come up or you would hit someone coming down.

That all said, I haven't had issues on rainy or snowy days carrying any of my bags--they all come out all year. lol!

Yep, our mostly flat roads here give us a false sense of security. But the worst problems are on the interstates especially since, as in most crowded urban areas, many stretches are elevated. "Bridges freeze before roads" signs are all over but some people forget that elevated roadways raised on pylons above ground level ARE bridges. One patch of ice and it's all over. Throw in a stretch like the ones on I-80 and 94 through NW Indiana, add a few miles of lake effect snow and 40 MPH crosswinds, and things get real interesting real fast.

I don't envy you your hills and twisty roads, at least in winter.They would scare the livin' daylights out of me. Driving them in Fall when the leaves are changing color would be awesome though!
 
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A 2003 Forester that's still going strong, with only 55,000 actual miles. Not just the best car I've ever owned, but the best car I've ever DRIVEN. Not the fanciest, but totally dependable. And I sold cars in the Chicago area with several large dealerships and different manufacturers so I've had a chance to drive a lot of different cars, from Chryslers to BMWs.

I LOVE MY SUBY !!! :love:
Yes we do to. My sons 2003 WRX was stolen on Thanksgiving day. He was lucky and it was his 2nd car, he is now in an Impreza wagon. My ex an outback, my daughter a Forester and many more.... They last forever.
 
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But in Colorado most people make the effort to actually learn to drive on snow and ice - something we in the Midwest are a bit more lax and lazy about. The stupid maneuvers I've seen some people pulling especially on the interstates would turn your hair gray. (I'm biting my tongue here and refraining from pointing at the typical Chicago-area SUV owner!). NO, PEOPLE, 4-wheel drive does NOT mean that you can keep doing 60MPH on snow and ice, the laws of physics still apply. And even road salt isn't going to save your butt when it's 10 below zero and those melting compounds just don't work any more. Slow the he!! down!

IS IT SPRING YET ????

You hit the nail on the head there! Many in the midwest drive like maniacs in the winter. I have seen some astonishing maneuvers here, mostly people in pick up trucks and luxury sedans. I drive a Jeep 4x4 and I drive sloooooooow in the winter and people get annoyed with me all the time. I don't care. I've never spun off the road so I know it keeps me safe. All those speed demons can bugger off. I have seen some sweet karma though, I've been passed on icy roads by drivers in a hurry only to later pass them in the ditch! I smile and wave.
 
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View attachment 4381971 View attachment 4381972 View attachment 4381973 Hi Everyone! I'm joining with my first vintage Coach - Regina from 95. I'm deodorizing her and will do my first dunking rehab. Do you know the name of this warm brown shade from that year? (Sorry for the sideways pic!)

I answered in the other thread. It's best if you don't ask the same question in more than one thread.
https://forum.purseblog.com/threads...-questions-here.355205/page-903#post-33000033
 
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You hit the nail on the head there! Many in the midwest drive like maniacs in the winter. I have seen some astonishing maneuvers here, mostly people in pick up trucks and luxury sedans. I drive a Jeep 4x4 and I drive sloooooooow in the winter and people get annoyed with me all the time. I don't care. I've never spun off the road so I know it keeps me safe. All those speed demons can bugger off. I have seen some sweet karma though, I've been passed on icy roads by drivers in a hurry only to later pass them in the ditch! I smile and wave.

Amen! I've done the same thing. A jacked-up 4x4 Ford pick-m-up that blasted by me at night on I-80-94 is the one that gives me the most pleasure thinking about. Karma for him kicking up gallons of dirty salty slush all over my door and windshield. Wonder how long he had to wait for a tow truck? :graucho:

Karma's a b!tch. :angel:
 
Yep, our mostly flat roads here give us a false sense of security. But the worst problems are on the interstates especially since, as in most crowded urban areas, many stretches are elevated. "Bridges freeze before roads" signs are all over but some people forget that elevated roadways raised on pylons above ground level ARE bridges. One patch of ice and it's all over. Throw in a stretch like the ones on I-80 and 94 through NW Indiana, add a few miles of lake effect snow and 40 MPH crosswinds, and things get real interesting real fast.

I don't envy you your hills and twisty roads, at least in winter.They would scare the livin' daylights out of me. Driving them in Fall when the leaves are changing color would be awesome though!
Yes, it is very beautiful 97% of the year (even in winter because most of the winter is fairly okay), because of the trees and the mountains in many areas around us.
 
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Amen! I've done the same thing. A jacked-up 4x4 Ford pick-m-up that blasted by me at night on I-80-94 is the one that gives me the most pleasure thinking about. Karma for him kicking up gallons of dirty salty slush all over my door and windshield. Wonder how long he had to wait for a tow truck? :graucho:

Karma's a b!tch. :angel:
The northeast seems to take better care of their roads but the salt/sand definitely eat away at your car. Living in OH I find they don't take good care of the roads in snow so I take the bus! No stress and I get where I need to go mostly on time! I won't wear my good Coach bags or totes on the bus so have designated a vintage crossbody and a tote from a cosmetic purchase as my "bus bags." I love the bus here and the drivers are mostly pleasant and helpful. No grumpy "Al Cramden's" here!
 
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