Me too! I feel Blackrock makes Sonoma leather look closer to new.
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I think the last pebbled leather I did, I treated like Glove tanned. It turned out fine, but I wondered if the conditioner was not need on this leather. I read somewhere it has a hard time absorbing and may gunk up the "pebbles".
I'm really happy with it anyway. I kind of stopped rehabbing for awhile out of frustration of buying bags that were too bad or I just didn't have the patience for.
I think I'll stick to just searching for better condition at low cost! (Aren't we all?)
I had read that about gunking up the pebbles too, but I haven't had a problem. Maybe you would with really thick conditioners, but as long as you rub it in good and remove the excess, I don't think that would happen. Often these pebbled bags had a sheen when they were new that gets dull when they get old, and conditioner restores that.
My very first rehab attempt was a pebbled bag but not Coach, it was a Lladro bag! Apparently Lladro launched a short-lived line of Spanish-made bags in the 1980s and 1990s. I only paid $4 for it and it had piping problems but I decided to try and rehab it without any idea of what I was doing - and I did gunk up the pebbles!
I don't remember what type of conditioner I used, probably something I found in the shoe polish box that I had picked up previously at the shoe repair store. I probably applied it too heavily and didn't wipe off the excess, but when it dried it was like the little valleys between the pebbles were packed with concrete!
I suppose that if I had soaked it and then scrubbed it with a toothbrush I might have been able to get all the gunk out, but I was totally over the experience by then. You can see pics of my Lladro bag at the link below.
So it was my first rehab and my first failure but for only $4 it was a good learning experience. It is so helpful to have the rehab and rescue community to help you work through problems and to give you advice and options.
Nowadays when I am unsure about the best conditioning product or worried about damaging the bag I start with Lexol, it is light-weight and clear but it is not a deep conditioner. I also find that Leather Therapy Oil works well on pebbled leathers and will give the bag some shine. And I have successfully used thicker conditioners like Leather CPR and Apple on pebbled leather bags, just be sure to apply it sparingly and immediately wipe off the excess - the same goes for Black Rocks. Using a clean horsehair brush to buff the bag will help to burnish the leather and keep the little valleys clean!
https://forum.purseblog.com/threads/lladro-purse-rare-find-rehab-opportunity-junk.588349/
The leather may feel similar on different brands, but the only brand I trust to react to rehabbing the way I expect is Coach. I've tried to rehab Dooney and Fossil, and both never turn out as good as Coach. On Dooneys, I can never get the smooth leather parts to absorb much conditioner, so they always look very scratched. On Fossils, any conditioners I use stain the leather unevenly.
Loving my Gramercy satchel this weekend in rainy weather in Chicago. No water spots to worry about! And yes that's a mimosa behind my bag. [emoji16] [emoji12] 
https://www.ebay.com/itm/162518212719
I can not be more bummed. I went out on a limb and bought this as a bday present to myself. Today the seller refunded saying it was either out of stock or damaged.
So, so sad......
I can not be more bummed. I went out on a limb and bought this as a bday present to myself. Today the seller refunded saying it was either out of stock or damaged.
So, so sad......
Maybe the seller realized it wasn't really in new condition. Sometimes it helps to contact the seller.
Should I just out them like that? I don't want to be rude. I BIN knowing it was used, but would at least be in good condition with little work to do on my part besides a dunk, condition and shine.
I'll try.
She/he just replied, "the seller wants more money. If you can pay $125 you can have it"
WTF?
ETA- Is that eBay legal???
Wow! Maybe she was surprised at how quickly it sold. No way would I pay more than I had already agreed to. If you can leave feedback, I would leave negative. I suspect you won't be able to since the sale was cancelled. I wonder if you can report the seller for this.
I'm furious. I called eBay. They are giving a sanction against the seller. They advised me to leave negative feedback, which I did. I hope all that was worth $35 to them. It wouldn't be to me.
And yes, out of pure principle, I wouldn't pay more.
I guess the seller didn't realize eBay can read the messages.
Good, sellers shouldn't be able to get away with this. Once I gave a negative when a seller cancelled a sale after I won the auction at a price lower than she wanted.
Good for you. Glad to hear at least eBay will shut that cr&p down. Buying online is hard enough.
Forget the mimosa. Talk to me about that (what appears to be ) desert tray on the right.