Me too. If and when a woman gets married and/or has kids, it should be her choice, and hers alone. I didn't realize society still values a woman's worth based on the number of children she has or how many years she's been married.
Taylor Swift
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But society does. I married very, very late and have only one child. I'm judged.
Actually I was discriminated against and many friends left me out because I was single and childless for the longest time. They thought they didn't have common things to share with me anymore. So that's that.
Now as an older mom raising a very young child, I'm making new mom friends. But this time around, I keep my circle small.
NASTY I tell you NASTY
None of anoyones business how a woman lives her life, let alone a man's business.
None of anoyones business how a woman lives her life, let alone a man's business.
You are wise to do this. There is so much pressure on women to be perfect, and it has only been exacerbated by social media. My daughter is the same age as Taylor, married with two babies and is a senior VP with a large investment firm. Yet she still felt judged by comments from parents she knows personally and comments from mommy Redditors over a minor parenting decision she made. I told her trust your own good judgment and your pediatrician's advice and stay away from Reddit parenting forums. They will make you crazy.
I'm not a Swiftie, but I have to admire Taylor for all the sh*t she's put up with over the years. Yes, she was a pretty and talented young white woman with business savvy parents who may have given her an edge, but it is her work ethic, drive and determination that has gotten her to where she is today. I doubt she's even seen it, but I'm sure she would be completely unfazed by that idiotic opinion piece.
I don't see it as putting up with sh*t over the years.
She's a billionaire with a huge desire for attention and adoration and extremely successful at achieving it. She does exactly what she wants and dates who she wants.
She flies around in a PJ the way others take their cars, with no care that she's helping to ruin the planet with her excessive carbon footprint. Her fans don't care about the planet-heating emissions of her private jet. They'll be like army ants working for her, collectively building bridges out of their bodies. Swift can do no wrong.
She just hasn't found the right guy to settle down with. If she's in her 40s, she'll do the Hollywood route for kids and hire someone to do it for her.
I doubt she cares if someone thinks she should be married with kids by now.
Well, clearly not everyone likes her! 😂
I don't dislike her, aside from her speeding up the burning up of the planet.
As I've said before, I'm gobsmacked at her at her phenomenal success. But we've talked about and I don't think I will ever get it.
My comment was about young women getting married young. Until now, she hadn't found the right guy so she can do whatever she wants.
She has put up with some ish, imo
I don’t pity her, but she’s human.
I don’t pity her, but she’s human.
I don't get the big deal with her. Her music is ok...., I don't see her as a great role model...if she gives money to charity that is great, tax deduction for her. I just feel it goes a little deeper. Girls don't need men etc. But as women we do need men. Especially strong men. We as women can be strong in our own right, but I will never say I don't need a man. I don't want to fight a fire, or climb a pole to fix our electricity. Nor do I want to do my own plumbing or pick up garbage. If as a woman you'd like to do those things more power to you...but realistically she says she is empowered but has people doing everything for her...just not my idea of empowered.
No, I need a man about as much as a fish needs a bicycle.
Iykyk.
Iykyk.
I don’t listen to her music either and am tired of hearing about her and Travis Kelce. But I think she could be a positive role model for young women in several ways. She and her family can be commended for how she has managed her career and handled her fame so far. The entertainment industry can be brutal and has broken many promising young talents. Think Brittany Spears and Michael Jackson to name a few. She and her management team have handled her career and her income so successfully that she has become a billionaire while still in her 30s. Michael Jackson in contrast was reportedly $500 million in debt at the time of his death because of his profligate spending. Taylor clearly works hard and I get the impression that she takes an active role in the business decisions or at the very least makes sure she is well informed on negotiations done on her behalf. Think of the overarching role Colonel Parker played in managing Elvis. I doubt Taylor would allow anyone to be that totally in control of her career. So she’s seemingly avoided many of the pitfalls common to young entertainers who find success while still in their early teens. She’s kept her head and kept control of her image, her career, and her money. In a world where woman in many areas are still thought of and treated as lesser, Taylor has so far succeeded and thrived. So yes she has many people doing many things for her but people don’t work in a vacuum. In every organization, someone has to be giving directions and calling the shots and that someone appears to be Taylor.
I am not in Taylor’s audience…I don’t think I have ever listened to one of her songs from start to finish. That is ok…as I said, I’m not in her audience…I think from hearing about her that her music appeals to teenagers and young women…writing about “boys” who have done her wrong and multiple heartbreaks is a narrow genre in my mind, but obviously my opinion is not widely held. I admire her success…and her philanthropy.
BUT…I don’t care about her personal life, and I’m certain she doesn’t need a man for the reasons you mention…I am as far as I can be from her situation, but I don’t need a man for those reasons either! If I needed to fight a fire, climb a pole or do plumbing or pick up garbage, and didn’t want to do it, or couldn’t, I’d pay someone to do it, same as Taylor! Those tasks don’t define a woman as empowered…the ability to make decisions about one’s own life and carry out those decisions is empowering. We don’t need men for that.
I don’t need a man. Just a phone to call someone to do these things for me if I choose not to do them. Honestly, the older I’ve gotten the more I feel men are just a pain in the butt.
I don’t see Taylor as promoting that she doesn’t need a man. She’s more an embodiment of working hard and taking care of yourself, being financially independent, and whomever you choose to partner with is icing on the cake, not someone you need to do things for you.
Falling into a pattern of needing someone as a partner for any reason can lead to some negativity. Enables codependency.