Prince Harry and Meghan Markle thread

[Vlad]

I kindly request that all members participating in the MM and Harry thread dial back the vile rhetoric.

I am not opposed to discussing public personas on TPF, including the constant torrent of news surrounding the couple from this thread. But I find it troubling when their looks are being nitpicked apart to a degree that is just not appropriate.

This thread has drawn criticism over the years, and I discussed it at great length with Megs and the mods. I am not looking to close it down, but the vitriol needs to be dialed back.

My personal feelings about hate threads aside, this ultra-negative vibe is something better suited for other forums, Reddit, or elsewhere. I am holding our community to higher standards.

Thanks for reading.

 

[charlottawill]

Just some inspiration for Archewell.

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Between her music, cosmetics and clothing line she's reportedly worth around 1.5 billion, the kind of wealth MM can only dream of.

 

[CarryOn2020]

Between her music, cosmetics and clothing line she's reportedly worth around 1.5 billion, the kind of wealth MM can only dream of.

Or marry into?

 

[Chanbal]

New Episode Preview: A Dumb Prince and His Stupid Wife - SOUTH PARK

 

[charlottawill]

Or marry into?

But that clearly hasn't worked out too well for her so far. Maybe the third sucker will be the charm.

 

[purseinsanity]

Oh no, Harold's been dethroned, and by a children's book

Sigh. Another book by the spawn of someone famous. How original.

 

[charlottawill]

Sigh. Another book by the spawn of someone famous. How original.

Don't get me started. She graduated from the same school at the same time as my daughter and promptly got a contract to write a book about the struggles of being a new college grad. Seriously? In interviews she seems like a nice person, but she has rich and famous parents and then married a movie star. It's easy to be nice when doors open magically for you that don't for others.

 

[Bag peace]

Not to get into a big spiel but I don’t actually believe in unconscious bias training I think it’s a grift with very little psychological basis to it and all it does is seeks to fudge responsibility and individual character.

This is an interesting take and one I have to ponder.

I can see the benefit of training in that, at the very least, it makes us aware of what sorts of biases we may be harbouring, which is certainly a step up. We still have massive pay disparity in the workplace, for instance, and having HR aware of how this may partially be due to bias rather than merit is important. (For eg. one of my early workplace had men earning 50% more than women in all depts. That clearly had nothing to do with performance).

I can also see how it might be a grift, as there are so many grifters jumping on bandwagons to scam people out of their money. However, I don't agree that it seeks to fudge responsibility, when it in fact, it makes you identify your biases and makes you accountable to unfair action taken due to them. At least, that has been my experience.
Harry, of course, make it about excusing his racist past and shifting blame, but that's his lack of integrity and character showing through.

You're welcome to correct me if you feel my understanding is flawed (or drop this entirely if you feel it's not on-topic). I'll be thinking about the points you've made, so thank you for responding.

 

[Toby93]

yes, between that and having the perfect body for clothes, she is perfect

I read somewhere that all of her clothes that are purchased off the rack have to be tailored because she has wide shoulders, long torso and narrow hips. These are all problems I would love to have, and obviously, all of her flaws disappear with proper tailoring.

 

[Toby93]

 

[Toby93]

Americans 'find Meghan Markle phoney, contrived and overdramatic'

Meghan Markle's popularity has dropped in the US, and now a human behaviour expert has claimed Americans find the former-actress "phoney" in an Express exclusive.

www.express.co.uk

Cringeworthy phony

 

[gracekelly]

Can’t wait to see the result. Even a nonstick baking pan should be greased.

 

[Lodpah]

Good point, I was thinking from the point of view of a lawyer client, hoping to keep costs down by keeping the suit lean and mean, every line my lawyer has to read costs me money

Depositions are not cheap but effective. There’s an angle there lawyers are trying to get.

MM can’t change the law on how siblings are defined.

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Either way I think she will not come across truthfully and I can’t wait for the question that will open her up to the bullying claims to establish a pattern of lies she has spouted.
One more thing, TW has really insulted millions of half siblings.

I was reading today about the Solange and JayZ mess in the elevator. That family kept it classy and no one wrote a book about it.

 

[xincinsin]

Her funeral curtsy gave me the chills too, except for different reasons. I saw it as a hypocritical thing to do to a woman who tried to include her into the family, and give her patronages and a platform that she could do something with. I found her curtsy to more of an insult than an expression of respect. Her little exaggerated curtsy performance in the Netflix doc cemented this idea for me.

No sincerity. The funeral curtsey was a performance. She wasn't paying her respects, she was showing off.

 

[Bagatha Christie]

When I looked her up I was sure she would be in her 20s, that’s how immature she sounded. Imagine my surprise when I found out she was 38!

Random people online presuming their strong opinions give them the authority to tell other people what they should believe is getting to be more common every day. Everyone should feel comfortable disregarding them and thinking for themselves.

I don’t blame you for thinking she was 20. I don’t care enough to look her up but if she thinks those 2 have a wonderful loved up marriage she is certainly….innocent for her years.

Oh no, Harold's been dethroned, and by a children's book

Is that the homewrecker who stole Chris Pratt from Anna Faris? Gross. I mean obviously he’s a creep for going but I wouldn’t buy her book anyway. I used to think he was cute too sigh.

Yeah but it was enough for Pharrell to see it as symbolic and meaningful.

For those who forget, this was what he said at the Lion King premiere (which was conveniently overheard to release to the press).

"Love is amazing. It's wonderful," he added.

"Don't ever take that for granted but what it means in today's climate. I just wanted to tell you it's so significant for so many of us. Seriously.

"We cheer you guys on," he said.

Markle replied: "Thank you, they don't make it easy."

Meghan Markle appeared to hint at the strain of royal life when speaking to Pharrell at 'The Lion King' premiere: 'They don't make it easy'

After making the couple laugh by offering up a half-curtsy, Pharrell told Meghan Markle and Prince Harry he was so happy for their union.

www.insider.com

I wouldn’t assume Pharrell was being sincere. This was at the lion king premier where disney was congratulating itself for empowering black people by getting celebs to voice cartoon animals so it seemed like a suitably vague inspirational soundbite- I wouldn’t be surprised if pr wrote it for him.

Jesus that wig wants to jump to its death too….
she looks like doc brown

New Episode Preview: A Dumb Prince and His Stupid Wife - SOUTH PARK

I mean they aren’t wrong.

This is an interesting take and one I have to ponder.

I can see the benefit of training in that, at the very least, it makes us aware of what sorts of biases we may be harbouring, which is certainly a step up. We still have massive pay disparity in the workplace, for instance, and having HR aware of how this may partially be due to bias rather than merit is important. (For eg. one of my early workplace had men earning 50% more than women in all depts. That clearly had nothing to do with performance).

I can also see how it might be a grift, as there are so many grifters jumping on bandwagons to scam people out of their money. However, I don't agree that it seeks to fudge responsibility, when it in fact, it makes you identify your biases and makes you accountable to unfair action taken due to them. At least, that has been my experience.
Harry, of course, make it about excusing his racist past and shifting blame, but that's his lack of integrity and character showing through.

You're welcome to correct me if you feel my understanding is flawed (or drop this entirely if you feel it's not on-topic). I'll be thinking about the points you've made, so thank you for responding.

So to be clear I think bias and prejudice exist and are majorly destructive but that I think this idea there are ‘experts’ who all (despite having no medical background and diverse training that is not reviewed or credited by any organisation I’ve seen) can come in and diagnose strangers based on their appearance and somehow root out these problems people apparently don’t even know they have through a mixture of extremely basic and well-known history, cold reading and rudimentary therapy techniques sounds more akin to a psychic night than a science.
Also the whole intimate breakdown to build up aspect sounds cultish like Erhard Seminars training.
Not to mention this is going on in the workplace usually so people are very aware that how they behave could jeopardise their livelihoods based on how they react to someone and something they know very little about. I think if anything iit drives a divide between people and encourages the idea others are secretly judging and resenting you especially those you are different from be it race/orientation/gender which just increases factions and internal divide.

I also just don’t buy the subconscious original sin aspect of it all- I think people either consciously justify their prejudices or consciously challenge them not that they are unaware they exist. Everyone becomes guilty by association and in some cases actual harassment and discrimination becomes more justified because the perpetrators are like Leopold and Loeb style victims of their circumstance. It’s a massive step backwards for race relations and personal responsibility in my book.

I mean we saw this with Harry. He’s claimed he’s claimed ignorance on Nazi costumes and Asian slurs and been given a pass as some victim of his environment and it’s just total crap- he obviously knew those things were offensive and did it to get a reaction - there is nothing unintentional or naive about it.

Cringeworthy phony

I’d rather not see it. As much as I love talking to you all the absolute deluge of pointless analysis and photo articles that will result if H&M do come just seems boring now. We’ve had the same BS for a jubilee and a funeral can’t the BRF show some balls for a change and skip the BS for everyone’s collective good, I mean worse that can happen for them is the press will be annoyed they lost a story and chaz might get called a racist for 2 days before everyone realises it doesn’t change anything.

 

[needlv]

What Is it that H and M have left After attending the coronation (and eventually KC3 funeral)?

I think they have to still do 3 more books.

And the Netflix deal involved way more than one 6-hour snoozefest documentary.

https://www.elle.com.au/culture/harry-meghan-netflix-deal-how-much-money-27989

In 2020, Prince Harry and Duchess Meghan revealed they had signed a significant deal with Netflix which would see them produce a plethora of original content including documentaries, movies, series and children's programming. The deal was in collaboration with their company, Archewell Productions.

Is Spotify owed more podcasts?

After these are done I can’t see a stream of revenue without merching on IG or QVC….

Im wondering if 2023-2024 makes them really tight with their budget. Obligations to produce content without income coming in, multiple law suits ((RAVEC, Samantha and dailymail) and living costs/expenses…