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If you bought it at a Prada boutique, the Made in (probably China), was cut out by the store staff. At least that's the stories that seem to be coming out of Prada boutiques. Not so much the retail stores like NM, BG, or Saks. Seems even Prada is embarrassed about their Made in China bags at Made in Italy prices....![]()
r15324 said:I'll just sum up some facts.
Yes, Prada have made bags in China. These are at most limited to the Vela and more inexpensive Tessuto lines, pretty much specific for the outlets. And yes, I know that a lot of you shop almost exclusively in the outlets. In fact, almost all Prada bags are made in Italy and this supply is supplemented with products made in Prada controlled facilities in Turkey (which is one of the last places in the world to utilise traditional natural tanneries). You will find the made-in tags inside the lining of the inner pocket.
There has not been any evidence to show that SAs have been cutting tags whether it be under company or personal direction. At best, second-hand resellers have been cutting them so as to make its origin ambiguous and at best inflate its price.
Before you purchase, whether it be from an outlet or a store, just ask where it's made. If you're not happy with its country of origin, don't buy it. Simple as that.
Over and out.
I'll just sum up some facts.
Yes, Prada have made bags in China. These are at most limited to the Vela and more inexpensive Tessuto lines, pretty much specific for the outlets. And yes, I know that a lot of you shop almost exclusively in the outlets. In fact, almost all Prada bags are made in Italy and this supply is supplemented with products made in Prada controlled facilities in Turkey (which is one of the last places in the world to utilise traditional natural tanneries). You will find the made-in tags inside the lining of the inner pocket.
There has not been any evidence to show that SAs have been cutting tags whether it be under company or personal direction. At best, second-hand resellers have been cutting them so as to make its origin ambiguous and at best inflate its price.
Before you purchase, whether it be from an outlet or a store, just ask where it's made. If you're not happy with its country of origin, don't buy it. Simple as that.
Over and out.
The production in China is not limited to the Vela,& Tessuto lines. This now also includes many of the most popular Daino Vitello bags found in boutiques, and outlets. This is a fact that I have been able to corroborate with SAs.
And yes, there are some also made in Turkey,as well as in India.
I don't see how shopping exclusively at the outlets,as you point out, has any bearing on this considering you can't assume that the Prada bag you are purchasing at the Saks counter was made in Italy anymore....therefore now you have to check.
And no, the made in tag is NOT always in the interior pocket.
PRADA makes finding the "Made in" tag extremely hard these days.
To me that really is the only issue if you have one. The quality of the bags don't suffer at all. All designers have branched out to other countries. The days of bags being exclusively limited to their country of origin are over. So, the quality does not suffer. But the point is, if you are saving on your manufacturing costs, then why not pass that to consumers overall- wherever the bag is made? I own 3 pradas and will keep them regardless of where the bags are made. They are Pradas. The issue that you raised is not limited to Prada alone though.This is not my issue at all. It's the fact that Prada bags that are made in China are far less for Prada to produce than the exact bag being produced in Italy, yet we pay the premium price whether it was made in China, Italy or Timbuktu.
Do you feel that Hermes is far superior to Prada? Just curious....I thought about purchasing a Hermes bag but couldn't find a style that I likeI just wanted to shed some light to some of the points on here, and also share my knowledge with you. I have an MBA in luxury branding marketing from GCU london and I just wanted to offer some findings from my final thesis which touched on the subject of fair trading. You will be surprised to know that Italy hasn't established a minimum wage yet similar to that of china, and some workers are paid by factories for less than 0.70 euros a day. So if you have a problem with Prada making a huge amount of profit, I would think twice. I really don't see the problem as you are generally paying for the branding in the first place. Advertising costs, market research, trend forecasting are all huge expenses that go into the company to make the products, what all of you desire. I personally own a mixture of Made in China Prada handbags and Made in Italy handbags and honestly in my professional opinion the quality difference is barely noticeable if not any. Some of you bring up the point that Hermes is still made in France, which is true but the price point of their purses are again higher than Prada, around the high 4 figures to 6 figure range, where as Prada is generally the low 4. Which I also own, and can tell the quality difference again between the two brands.. Anyway these are my thoughts and opinions, any other questions I would be glad to answer![]()
Well said....every designer manipulates in some way. Choose your manipulationI don't want to get yelled at by anyone, but I did read through this entire thread, all 23 pages of it. This is my general impression of what I read and please correct me if I am mistaken; many of the bags at the Prada outlets are made in China and the tags are deceptively hidden in the lining to create the impression that you are purchasing a product that is made in Italy for a fairly reduced price. Additionally, some of the bags sold in the boutiques or department stores are not made in Italy, but this is primarily the nylon bags and some seasonal bags.
This is my question: Is the bag I did a special order for (BN1844) in the Prada boutique going to be made in Italy? The manager told me that it would take 12 weeks or more to get the bag because of the holiday and the fact that many of the workers in Italy would be off for the month. I also ordered a bag from the Prada website, is this going to be made in Italy?
I also read the book Deluxe, How Luxury Lost its Luster. I am aware that companies, Prada possibly included, may be deceptive in regards to making a bag in China, sewing the handles or some other component in Italy and then skirting past the laws of what is required for a "Made In" label by finishing the product in Italy.
I agree that this procedure is really deceptive and manipulative. It is also wrong to charge inflated prices for products that are not made in places where labor is more expensive and the craftsmanship inferior. This makes me question my future purchases with Prada.
I would also like to point out the following: manipulation of customers of luxury brands takes many forms. For example, I have bought several Chanel bags, all made in Italy, over the last three years. I love Chanel, but the insane price increases over the last few years and the decline in quality is a form of manipulation. Regarding Hermes, they can't be matched in terms of quality, materials, and craftsmanship, but their prices are exorbitant and they pretend their bags are scarce, ala Rolex. I have considered buying a Birkin, but these two things really turn me off, as do their constant price increases. Again, this is another form of manipulation.
I dont mean to offend any lovers of Hermes or Chanel, because I love these brands too and own many products from these companies. I just want to point out these issues because I feel that they are relevant to issues brought up by this thread. I feel like I am somewhat of a hypocrite because I buy them, but disagree with some of the things they represent.
Wow, this is a really long post. Sorry!
hellokatiegirl said:I came across this article on the LV forum: www.europeanbusinessreview.com/?p=6078
It is a great read for those of you who have participated in this thread about "luxury" goods such as Prada being made in China. The article mentions Prada and how they have publicly announced that some of their goods will be manufactured in locations other than Italy.
The article addresses an issue that I think is very important not just for Prada, but all luxury brands which is: What is luxury? And what qualifies a brand as a luxury brand? If companies such as Prada start producing products in places such as China, they are no longer luxury brands, but fashion brands trying to sell consumers on the idea of luxury.
Again, this article is a great read and sheds some light on the disturbing topic of luxury brands moving overseas and producing products in places which diverge from the original heritage of the brand.