Clemence is slouchy, so it is a more casual option. I have a Picotin in Clemence and it is not shiny at all.So I don't have any black bags in my closet and I was thinking of adding one that can be used day to night. I was considering a Chanel classic flap (small or medium) or a bolide 27. Can a bolide 27 be dressed up to shine like a classic flap? Has anyone ever seen a bolide 27 in black chevre with GHW? The leathers I am considering are chevre, clemence, and *maybe* epsom. I feel like the epsom doesn't shine enough as an evening-nice-dinner-out type of bag and I believe the 27 doesn't come in clemence. Thoughts?