Scarves MYH's Scarf Showcase - and philosophical ramblings about how I built my collection

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OK ladies and gentlemen....We have a serious issue to discuss. It’s not an easy topic to talk about. I don’t want to hurt anyone’s feelings. But I’m going to speak my truth. I’m afraid I’m going to be really unpopular after this post.

It’s about scarves that age us. :crybaby::tdown:

The following opinions are just my own ok? You can completely disagree. And that’s ok. I’m just going to give you my observations.

First...format. The most aging format is the 90cm IMO. The least aging is a cashmere 140cm. Unfortunately, it’s also the most expensive. Ugh. 140cm mousselines can also be quite aging. For mouseelines, I think it depends a lot on the design scale and color. In general, 70cm and 45cm scarves help the wearer appear youthful . 140cm giant silks, can go both ways.

Second...the scale of the design. Prints with tiny little flowers and leaves IMO are very aging. I really don’t know why but this is how I feel about Jardin de Sintra just like @frou frou mentioned. In fact, any scarf that has the word Jardin in the title makes warning bells go off in my head. It was on my “buy” list and I really loved the neutral cw that it came in but when I tried it on, I thought it made me look......well.....old. in general scarves with tiny little prints conjure up “granny material” to me. Designs that are mid-large scale appear the most youthful to me. Especially designs that have a modern or abstract quality to them.

Third - color. Any scarves that have a lot of gold in them are going to make us look matronly IMO. Scarves that are light pastel all over also fall into this category. If the scarf is going to have pastels, I think it helps if it has some bolder or more saturated colors somewhere in the scarf. Neutrals are also somewhat dangerous if they are really light. Especially tan, brown, grey colors. And scarves with white backgrounds are just dangerous period.

Fourth - your scarf knot. Wtih a 90cm, if you do the typical bias fold secured with a scarf ring in front, be careful. IMO, I think this is the most aging knot because it doesn’t look casual (to my eye). It sometimes looks too proper to me. I think the most youthful knots look a little sloppy and drapey. I think it also helps if the scarf tails are a bit askew and not hanging totally symmetrical. But there is a fine line between “drapey” and “messy” so you gotta be careful.

OK, this scarf business is tough. Sometimes it’s not pretty. And sometimes we make costly mistakes. If you feel you own a scarf that ages you...don’t give up on it right away. Try different knots to help give it a youthful vibe. But in the end...if it doesn’t work for you...Catch n’ Release!

OK, dont’ hate me everyone!! And please chime in if you agree or disagree. I’d love to hear everyone’s opinions about this subject.
 
OK ladies and gentlemen....We have a serious issue to discuss. It’s not an easy topic to talk about. I don’t want to hurt anyone’s feelings. But I’m going to speak my truth. I’m afraid I’m going to be really unpopular after this post.

It’s about scarves that age us. :crybaby::tdown:

The following opinions are just my own ok? You can completely disagree. And that’s ok. I’m just going to give you my observations.

First...format. The most aging format is the 90cm IMO. The least aging is a cashmere 140cm. Unfortunately, it’s also the most expensive. Ugh. 140cm mousselines can also be quite aging. For mouseelines, I think it depends a lot on the design scale and color. In general, 70cm and 45cm scarves help the wearer appear youthful . 140cm giant silks, can go both ways.

Second...the scale of the design. Prints with tiny little flowers and leaves IMO are very aging. I really don’t know why but this is how I feel about Jardin de Sintra just like @frou frou mentioned. In fact, any scarf that has the word Jardin in the title makes warning bells go off in my head. It was on my “buy” list and I really loved the neutral cw that it came in but when I tried it on, I thought it made me look......well.....old. in general scarves with tiny little prints conjure up “granny material” to me. Designs that are mid-large scale appear the most youthful to me. Especially designs that have a modern or abstract quality to them.

Third - color. Any scarves that have a lot of gold in them are going to make us look matronly IMO. Scarves that are light pastel all over also fall into this category. If the scarf is going to have pastels, I think it helps if it has some bolder or more saturated colors somewhere in the scarf. Neutrals are also somewhat dangerous if they are really light. Especially tan, brown, grey colors. And scarves with white backgrounds are just dangerous period.

Fourth - your scarf knot. Wtih a 90cm, if you do the typical bias fold secured with a scarf ring in front, be careful. IMO, I think this is the most aging knot because it doesn’t look casual (to my eye). It sometimes looks too proper to me. I think the most youthful knots look a little sloppy and drapey. I think it also helps if the scarf tails are a bit askew and not hanging totally symmetrical. But there is a fine line between “drapey” and “messy” so you gotta be careful.

OK, this scarf business is tough. Sometimes it’s not pretty. And sometimes we make costly mistakes. If you feel you own a scarf that ages you...don’t give up on it right away. Try different knots to help give it a youthful vibe. But in the end...if it doesn’t work for you...Catch n’ Release!

OK, dont’ hate me everyone!! And please chime in if you agree or disagree. I’d love to hear everyone’s opinions about this subject.

Welcome back MYH! I’ve missed you so!

And um, okay. I disagree with everything above. Sorry. I’m not seeing how format or ties age us. Not even the head scarf tie. Unflattering colors, sure. Because they sap us. But you can be 17 and have this happen. Patterns.....hmmm, maybe. I got a lot of “keep it!!!” Comments on the 90 my DH chose on his own for my Christmas gift because the pattern is “modern and youthful.” Pic:

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Could be could be. The colors light up my face and I am a femme d’un certain age fer shure.

Nope. Aging is in the carriage, the persona, and the je ne sais pas of it all. Got nothing to do with 90s or ties. I mean YOU are living proof of that! You look fab in 90s! If you’re 20, tell me now.
 
PS, my Petrole Dans un Jardin Anglais couldn’t be less aging if it tried. [emoji4]. Talk about small prints.

But I do agree that insouciant ties that reveal a relaxed attitude are very youthifying. But also perfected by those of us old enough to appreciate that perfection is overrated, and a relaxed attitude toward the finer things in life (within reason. Manners are nonnegotiable.) is the way to go.
 
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I think I lean to the "it is how you put it all together" school of thought. I think that any ensemble can look aging if it is a little too well thought out. Somewhere in there you need the fun factor and that is why I like Pirula's scarf that Her DH just gifted her. That green hem is so darn cute! She is wearing it with a jean jacket! How young and fun! To be totally on topic, i don't fee that my 90 silks are aging at all. I do like the casual vibe of the shawls and perhaps that is why @MYH you think they have a more youthful vibe. To me, shawls have more of a thrown on factor, however if someone were to fold it in a triangle and throw over one shoulder, I would wince and say it was a stultified dramatic look from the Dynasty a la Joan Collins.

I will agree that knotting is a factor and if you look too prissy you can age the whole look.
 
OK ladies and gentlemen....We have a serious issue to discuss. It’s not an easy topic to talk about. I don’t want to hurt anyone’s feelings. But I’m going to speak my truth. I’m afraid I’m going to be really unpopular after this post.

It’s about scarves that age us. :crybaby::tdown:

The following opinions are just my own ok? You can completely disagree. And that’s ok. I’m just going to give you my observations.

First...format. The most aging format is the 90cm IMO. The least aging is a cashmere 140cm. Unfortunately, it’s also the most expensive. Ugh. 140cm mousselines can also be quite aging. For mouseelines, I think it depends a lot on the design scale and color. In general, 70cm and 45cm scarves help the wearer appear youthful . 140cm giant silks, can go both ways.

Second...the scale of the design. Prints with tiny little flowers and leaves IMO are very aging. I really don’t know why but this is how I feel about Jardin de Sintra just like @frou frou mentioned. In fact, any scarf that has the word Jardin in the title makes warning bells go off in my head. It was on my “buy” list and I really loved the neutral cw that it came in but when I tried it on, I thought it made me look......well.....old. in general scarves with tiny little prints conjure up “granny material” to me. Designs that are mid-large scale appear the most youthful to me. Especially designs that have a modern or abstract quality to them.

Third - color. Any scarves that have a lot of gold in them are going to make us look matronly IMO. Scarves that are light pastel all over also fall into this category. If the scarf is going to have pastels, I think it helps if it has some bolder or more saturated colors somewhere in the scarf. Neutrals are also somewhat dangerous if they are really light. Especially tan, brown, grey colors. And scarves with white backgrounds are just dangerous period.

Fourth - your scarf knot. Wtih a 90cm, if you do the typical bias fold secured with a scarf ring in front, be careful. IMO, I think this is the most aging knot because it doesn’t look casual (to my eye). It sometimes looks too proper to me. I think the most youthful knots look a little sloppy and drapey. I think it also helps if the scarf tails are a bit askew and not hanging totally symmetrical. But there is a fine line between “drapey” and “messy” so you gotta be careful.

OK, this scarf business is tough. Sometimes it’s not pretty. And sometimes we make costly mistakes. If you feel you own a scarf that ages you...don’t give up on it right away. Try different knots to help give it a youthful vibe. But in the end...if it doesn’t work for you...Catch n’ Release!

OK, dont’ hate me everyone!! And please chime in if you agree or disagree. I’d love to hear everyone’s opinions about this subject.

Maybe this is why I wear scarves to work [emoji23] I have a face that looks younger than I really am and people often think I’m 24 or 25 instead of 32. Fantastic in my personal life, terrible when my years of work experience is reduced to a couple years based on age perception.
 
Welcome back MYH! I’ve missed you so!

And um, okay. I disagree with everything above. Sorry. I’m not seeing how format or ties age us. Not even the head scarf tie. Unflattering colors, sure. Because they sap us. But you can be 17 and have this happen. Patterns.....hmmm, maybe. I got a lot of “keep it!!!” Comments on the 90 my DH chose on his own for my Christmas gift because the pattern is “modern and youthful.” Pic:

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Could be could be. The colors light up my face and I am a femme d’un certain age fer shure.

Nope. Aging is in the carriage, the persona, and the je ne sais pas of it all. Got nothing to do with 90s or ties. I mean YOU are living proof of that! You look fab in 90s! If you’re 20, tell me now.

LOL hunny!! First I’m not 20 years old. I’m in my early 40s. I am extremely careful when I wear my 90s. They are usually in some variation of a cowboy knot because I feel that knot is not aging. I didnt’ mean to say all 90cm scarves are aging. I just feel those are the most dangerous. I will show you in my next post. But the new scarf you got from DH checks a lot of youthful boxes for me. Modern print. Abstract. Fun and bright colors. And with your jean jacket, you nailed it. The Dans Un Jardin Anglais scarf...I’m still not feeling that one!

I think I lean to the "it is how you put it all together" school of thought. I think that any ensemble can look aging if it is a little too well thought out. Somewhere in there you need the fun factor and that is why I like Pirula's scarf that Her DH just gifted her. That green hem is so darn cute! She is wearing it with a jean jacket! How young and fun! To be totally on topic, i don't fee that my 90 silks are aging at all. I do like the casual vibe of the shawls and perhaps that is why @MYH you think they have a more youthful vibe. To me, shawls have more of a thrown on factor, however if someone were to fold it in a triangle and throw over one shoulder, I would wince and say it was a stultified dramatic look from the Dynasty a la Joan Collins.

I will agree that knotting is a factor and if you look too prissy you can age the whole look.
Yes, I agree with you about the whole look. For me 90cm scarves just have a tendency to look formal. So I guess that’s where I’m coming from.

I figured I would have those that disagree with me but that’s ok!!!
 
Here are some illustrations of what I mean. Here’s a 90cm. It’s the easiest knot so I know it’s tempting to do but I think it adds 10 years. This is the 90cm bias fold with scarf ring in front I was talking about.
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Also, I’ve never seen anyone pull off this head scarf unless they were a princess or riding in a convertible.
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Also big bows in front are also a no-no for me. She is ruining Ex Libris en kimonos for me.
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Ok, I’m ready for everyone to throw tomatoes at me!! :wtf:
 
Picture #1 and the headscarf are fine for me, but the last two are a big NO! I don't think these are real life looks anyway. I think they are absurd looks.
I will say that it helps if you are quite young for the headscarf tie behind the head look. I recall doing that when i had a convertible and that was when I was 19 lol! Actually, I still have a convertible, but I never take the top off the car!
 
Maybe this is why I wear scarves to work [emoji23] I have a face that looks younger than I really am and people often think I’m 24 or 25 instead of 32. Fantastic in my personal life, terrible when my years of work experience is reduced to a couple years based on age perception.

I did that too when I was in my early 30’s! I tried to dress like I was older. Suits, heels, the whole thing. I hadn’t discovered scarves then though. Shucks!! You are way ahead of the rest of us!
 
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Picture #1 and the headscarf are fine for me, but the last two are a big NO! I don't think these are real life looks anyway. I think they are absurd looks.
I will say that it helps if you are quite young for the headscarf tie behind the head look. I recall doing that when i had a convertible and that was when I was 19 lol! Actually, I still have a convertible, but I never take the top off the car!

LOL! A convertible was on my exception list for the headscarf.

Also, if you are 19, well, you can wear a Hermes scarf any way you want. No scarf can age a 19 year old.
 
Picture #1 and the headscarf are fine for me, but the last two are a big NO! I don't think these are real life looks anyway. I think they are absurd looks.
I will say that it helps if you are quite young for the headscarf tie behind the head look. I recall doing that when i had a convertible and that was when I was 19 lol! Actually, I still have a convertible, but I never take the top off the car!

Fully agree. Love 1 and the head scarf. The bow tie is bleh!!!!!! Age or no age!
 
LOL hunny!! First I’m not 20 years old. I’m in my early 40s. I am extremely careful when I wear my 90s. They are usually in some variation of a cowboy knot because I feel that knot is not aging. I didnt’ mean to say all 90cm scarves are aging. I just feel those are the most dangerous. I will show you in my next post. But the new scarf you got from DH checks a lot of youthful boxes for me. Modern print. Abstract. Fun and bright colors. And with your jean jacket, you nailed it. The Dans Un Jardin Anglais scarf...I’m still not feeling that one!


Yes, I agree with you about the whole look. For me 90cm scarves just have a tendency to look formal. So I guess that’s where I’m coming from.

I figured I would have those that disagree with me but that’s ok!!!

How in the hell is this aging?:

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Maybe I just don’t want to know! [emoji23][emoji23]


Okay I grant you, this is less fussy so maybe “younger”:

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OK ladies and gentlemen....We have a serious issue to discuss. It’s not an easy topic to talk about. I don’t want to hurt anyone’s feelings. But I’m going to speak my truth. I’m afraid I’m going to be really unpopular after this post.

It’s about scarves that age us. :crybaby::tdown:

The following opinions are just my own ok? You can completely disagree. And that’s ok. I’m just going to give you my observations.

First...format. The most aging format is the 90cm IMO. The least aging is a cashmere 140cm. Unfortunately, it’s also the most expensive. Ugh. 140cm mousselines can also be quite aging. For mouseelines, I think it depends a lot on the design scale and color. In general, 70cm and 45cm scarves help the wearer appear youthful . 140cm giant silks, can go both ways.

Second...the scale of the design. Prints with tiny little flowers and leaves IMO are very aging. I really don’t know why but this is how I feel about Jardin de Sintra just like @frou frou mentioned. In fact, any scarf that has the word Jardin in the title makes warning bells go off in my head. It was on my “buy” list and I really loved the neutral cw that it came in but when I tried it on, I thought it made me look......well.....old. in general scarves with tiny little prints conjure up “granny material” to me. Designs that are mid-large scale appear the most youthful to me. Especially designs that have a modern or abstract quality to them.

Third - color. Any scarves that have a lot of gold in them are going to make us look matronly IMO. Scarves that are light pastel all over also fall into this category. If the scarf is going to have pastels, I think it helps if it has some bolder or more saturated colors somewhere in the scarf. Neutrals are also somewhat dangerous if they are really light. Especially tan, brown, grey colors. And scarves with white backgrounds are just dangerous period.

Fourth - your scarf knot. Wtih a 90cm, if you do the typical bias fold secured with a scarf ring in front, be careful. IMO, I think this is the most aging knot because it doesn’t look casual (to my eye). It sometimes looks too proper to me. I think the most youthful knots look a little sloppy and drapey. I think it also helps if the scarf tails are a bit askew and not hanging totally symmetrical. But there is a fine line between “drapey” and “messy” so you gotta be careful.

OK, this scarf business is tough. Sometimes it’s not pretty. And sometimes we make costly mistakes. If you feel you own a scarf that ages you...don’t give up on it right away. Try different knots to help give it a youthful vibe. But in the end...if it doesn’t work for you...Catch n’ Release!

OK, dont’ hate me everyone!! And please chime in if you agree or disagree. I’d love to hear everyone’s opinions about this subject.
+1 On me, this is all so true. 90s and moussies unless abstract and bold make me feel *matronly.* Tiny prints do me no favours and neither do pale neutrals. Any paisley looks off on me.

I had to do a lot of searching to separate what I thought looked amazing flat, and what I could wear as clothing. Rarely do the twain meet. I’m still learning.

I’m glad I’m not the only one who can’t pull off a headscarf. And no big bows or drapey folds or long floaty trailing ends for me in particular.

The 140 CSGMs are my most wearable format followed by the 140 moussies, as long as they are tamed and not soft and fouffy.
 
I think I lean to the "it is how you put it all together" school of thought. I think that any ensemble can look aging if it is a little too well thought out. Somewhere in there you need the fun factor and that is why I like Pirula's scarf that Her DH just gifted her. That green hem is so darn cute! She is wearing it with a jean jacket! How young and fun! To be totally on topic, i don't fee that my 90 silks are aging at all. I do like the casual vibe of the shawls and perhaps that is why @MYH you think they have a more youthful vibe. To me, shawls have more of a thrown on factor, however if someone were to fold it in a triangle and throw over one shoulder, I would wince and say it was a stultified dramatic look from the Dynasty a la Joan Collins.

I will agree that knotting is a factor and if you look too prissy you can age the whole look.

Thank you gracekelly. That hem is EVERYTHING. [emoji4]
 
This is quite an interesting post. I agree with Pirula and think it is in the attitude and the style of the wearer how a scarf looks. Also, as I am tall 90s tend to look on me like some 70s look on somebody not as tall, pochettes look tiny - the proportions play an important role. Then I am thinking of all the young looks in 90 cm scarves shown by Pirule, papertiger, momasaurus, lanit, Croisette, abq2atl, ... the list goes on. Sometimes, it seems the 90 cm scarf has this undeserved stigma based on its history.
 
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