Maintaining an H relationship

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It's really interesting reading all the advice given here because I made so many of these mistakes innocently when I was a newbie. (this was after I'ld already bought a Birkin 30 and a Kelly 32, an Evelyn PM and a Barenia Picotin, before I discovered this amazing resource known as the Hermes subform of Tpf ;-) )
I also notice the difference between shopping in the USA vs Europe vs Asia vs Oceania. I also have to say a lot of my shopping practice is very different from what is experienced by newer clients right now. But understanding, patience and being sincere works no matter what it is about and where in the would one shops Hermes. l am fortunate to have lasted this long especially at FSH and despite incidents such as unbelievably rude SAs, stinky bags, wrong Tax Refunds, duplicate shawls packed up etc. With trust, everything can be resolved amicably and even strengthen relationships. In the end, it's never only about spend and time.
 
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I have had FIVE SAs/SM either get fired/resign/get transferred in the last year alone! So I understand how upsetting it can be, especially when you genuinely form a nice relationship with someone and have to start over. (outside of purchase history.)

You said the new store is actually a better location for you to visit a few times a year... are you able to make a visit to the store and catch up with your SA? This may re-enforce your relationship. I have a long distance boutique and I have a great relationship with my SA there. I order remote but also try to visit whenever I am in town. It's great because he usually tries to have a bag (not always a Birkin or Kelly) for me every time I visit, since it's every 2-3 months or so. I think if I were local and went to the store every week, obviously he would not have a bag for me every week! So it may actually work in your favor to make 3-4 visits a year to see your SA, and order remote in the meantime, especially if you have a good relationship with her, and it sounds like you do.

Yes I do have plans on going soon I just hope my SA will be responsive when that time comes. Thank you again! Sometimes it’s hard to wait but it is part of the journey.
 
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It's really interesting reading all the advice given here because I made so many of these mistakes innocently when I was a newbie. (this was after I'ld already bought a Birkin 30 and a Kelly 32, an Evelyn PM and a Barenia Picotin, before I discovered this amazing resource known as the Hermes subform of Tpf ;) )
I also notice the difference between shopping in the USA vs Europe vs Asia vs Oceania. I also have to say a lot of my shopping practice is very different from what is experienced by newer clients right now. But understanding, patience and being sincere works no matter what it is about and where in the would one shops Hermes. l am fortunate to have lasted this long especially at FSH and despite incidents such as unbelievably rude SAs, stinky bags, wrong Tax Refunds, duplicate shawls packed up etc. With trust, everything can be resolved amicably and even strengthen relationships. In the end, it's never only about spend and time.
Stinky bags!!! Would love to hear this story!!
 
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I will echo others here who say that if you are primarily in this for a QB, absolutely shop resale. In-store shopping is only fun if you don’t have a wishlist. And if you do have a firm wishlist and the goal is the QB, the transactional and stressful nature of the shopping takes away from the whole point of luxury shopping, which is about the experience really.
+10000000!!

I’m also jumping in too. I’ve been lurking for some time as well but wanted to put in my two cents. I started to quote so many people from the last posts, it got too long! I’ve been an H customer for over ten years. The obsession started during my university days but back then I was only able to afford the occasional scarf (singular) and some small things here and there.

I recently started shopping regularly with H in the EU and discovered TPF. I have to say that as I began shopping again and started reading this thread, it made me doubt and question so many things I would never even think twice about. I felt like I was “dating” someone. At one point I was over analysing only to find out they were on holidays, out sick or just didn’t have time to respond. I realised this was silly and it is not something I would normally do, I just became sensitive to it after reading Q&As here. Once I got past this point, my shopping experience became more positive and enjoyable.

I always want to make it easier for my SA. I usually come in with a list of items, browse and find a few more things and if they have time we chat for an hour, sometimes even three hours. If I have something on my list that I would like and it’s not in-store, I only ask my SA to help me get it if I am 110% sure it is my correct size and I will buy it. I am not demanding. I always feel if it’s meant for me it will come, if not c’est la vie. I think my SA appreciates this very much.

For in-person shopping, I am loyal to my SA because I frankly just have a wonderful time shopping with them. But I do occasionally buy things online that were not available in the store, and it’s been totally fine. SAs understand that they can’t source everything for you and also you shouldn’t miss out on something you really want because you’re worried it may or may not impact your chances on getting a bag. My SA even encouraged it.

It took about a year until we found our groove working together and this was the turning point. I only text to make appointments and my requests for specific items are all in-person. My SA understands my taste and style and makes excellent recommendations for me. And over time I got some bags (QB and non-QB), exotic SO, and other items. My SA even reserved coveted items without my knowledge because they found it suited my style, and they're usually right on the mark. I don’t push for getting bags. Sometimes I ask with low expectations, or sometimes my SA asks what I would like. I have also declined offers that didn't bring hearts to my eyes. Mind you I am not a “high spender”, but I am primarily RTW and shop across the metiers because I love the products.

So for those new with H, please don’t over analyse. Don’t stress out over the little things. Let time play out. Have fun shopping with your SA and enjoy the experience! And eventually what you want will come, it just takes time and patience.
 
I recently started shopping regularly with H in the EU and discovered TPF. I have to say that as I began shopping again and started reading this thread, it made me doubt and question so many things I would never even think twice about. I felt like I was “dating” someone. At one point I was over analysing only to find out they were on holidays, out sick or just didn’t have time to respond. I realised this was silly and it is not something I would normally do, I just became sensitive to it after reading Q&As here. Once I got past this point, my shopping experience became more positive and enjoyable.
I feel like my brief time in the H world has taught me that the more dramatic someone makes the whole thing sound, the higher the likelihood that they're newer/not a seasoned H shopper. The people who've been at it a long time seem to have more fun and take everything less seriously than the group that got here because of YouTube and Instagram!
 
I feel like my brief time in the H world has taught me that the more dramatic someone makes the whole thing sound, the higher the likelihood that they're newer/not a seasoned H shopper. The people who've been at it a long time seem to have more fun and take everything less seriously than the group that got here because of YouTube and Instagram!
O yeah, I was just making fun, a bit of banter if you will of my former sa with my current one while he was passing by. He got the joke and laughed with us :biggrin:
It's not all about bags.
 
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I was posting last night on the Dc thread and this morning on the Dallas thread. My post upset a newbie, and is no doubt unpopular opinion, but I think it’s an obvious tip to someone starting a new relationship with an SA. It is don’t bring up or harp on your wish list too soon. Most SAs might have the general assumption that a customer might want a QB someday. But, no SA wants to feel like a QB is the only reason why the customer is there (Even if that happens to be true).

I would also go so far as to say that I don’t advise bringing up a wish list by text or other electronic means. Other OG TPFers also give this advice, but couch it in the context of SA preference or best practice). I’d like to offer it as a way to a solid SA relationship. If one had to communicate a wish list (I do not have one, and I’ve received some nice offers once my SA got to know my taste) , i would only do so in person. In the instant case, I was responding to a situation where an SA says to a new client (first year, and in the US, I believe before 1X is reached), write down what you want.

The quandary arose bc the SA didnt respond when the client did so. (I got confused here as it seems the client did speak to the SA about this already, but changed her mind about sellier versus retourne, or another aspect of the bag). Ive read a few posts regarding different instances when an newbie is agitated about Sa responsiveness to a wish list. In these cases, I interpret the offer that the client make one as a way to pacify said client. Be ause until an SA says she would like to sit down with you to discuss specifics, I just don’t see the list as having much significance vis-a-vis the bags imminent arrival.* I have talked to my SA about newbie clients generally, and I get the sense that someone new who is eager to start a wishlist is immediately labeled as a possible ‘get bag and run situation,’ at least until proven otherwise, rather than a part of the permanent client roster.

Where a wish list, IMO only, becomes relevant, is when the client is nearing the (unofficial) prespend mark, and the SA is considering what bags she will be authorized to offer that the client will love. In the case where the profile is decent; the client is easy; and, the exact specs are not to be found, that’s when an SA will proffer a similar bag (etoupe rather than gold; 30 rather than 25; with the caveat/recommendation to take or leave, not knowing when the exact spec will arrive). IMO saying no has never been a disadvantage except to increase waiting time. In general, i believe that clients who get their first bags faster and who easily communicate their thoughts about additional bags, do so in a more organic process, while they are finding (and purchasing) other metiers. If one would like to help a relationship along, I also believe in making the SA part of the decision process (but that also means taking SA preferences Into consideration) Of course all of this is solely my own opinion gleaned from my experience and from talking with various SAs and SMs.

ETA: * if your dream specs come in, but you are no where near the unofficial spend, and it’s not your SAs turn to offer that bag, or if others are higher in the pecking order, the arrival simply has no relevance to your particular situation. (Unless, you are close enough, and the SA feels comfortable enough, to hint that the purchase of x might yield the coveted y).
A little late to the post but this was really beautifully and accurately put! As a semi-newbie, I have learned so much from TPF and its amazing community members. It has made me understand (and appreciate) the Hermes process much more. Thank you for sharing, always. Those who want to listen and learn, will. :flowers:
 
For those who got 2+ offers, did you think your 2nd offer was more difficult to obtain than your 1 one, easier, or same? If I got a first offer early September can I try and go for another one by the end of the year? Or no point in even trying?
 
For those who got 2+ offers, did you think your 2nd offer was more difficult to obtain than your 1 one, easier, or same? If I got a first offer early September can I try and go for another one by the end of the year? Or no point in even trying?
Early September? So just a few days ago? I certainly wouldn’t mention a request for another bag any time soon but would continue to shop as normal as you never know what will happen and it’s not like your profile disappears at the end of the year. That being said, given the still low supply and crazy high demand, I wouldn’t expect another offer (without over the top spending) in 2023.
 
Early September? So just a few days ago? I certainly wouldn’t mention a request for another bag but would continue to shop as normal as you never know what will happen and it’s not like your profile disappears at the end of the year. That being said, given the still low supply and crazy high demand, I wouldn’t expect another offer (without over the top spending) in 2023.
Yea this past weekend. I was going to update my wishlist, you recommend not doing it and waiting? I still have a few items Ive requested previously so I’m wondering if I should get them in the next few months or wait and space things out.
 
why space purchases out (unless you are in ASia and spend doesn’t carry over)
I buy when I see something I like bc I don’t know if I will see it again

is there a reason why you are in a rush to get another by year end?

as to whether you could get one, by that time, probably depends on your level of spend*
and whether other clients similarly situated have gotten their first ones yet.

I’m personally anti wish list and would rather my SA hunt for what he thinks will be perfect for me.
IMO, it’s slower but more organic. If you update now, I think it sends the wrong message

*by level of spend, I mean that if you are spending at many multiples (in my local store, it’s not unusual
for clients to spend 2-8X per visit) and have regularly sustained that level for a lengthy period of time,
not squeezing out 1-2X more between this bag and the next. JMO and YMMV
 
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Yea this past weekend. I was going to update my wishlist, you recommend not doing it and waiting? I still have a few items Ive requested previously so I’m wondering if I should get them in the next few months or wait and space things out.
Just my personal opinion but asking for another bag immediately after the first seems ungrateful and unappreciated. I would focus on loving what you got and being happy with it. Bring it with you when you return to shop for those other items. SAs have a way of letting you know when another bag is coming due so I would wait for that prompting. Bag #1 and #2 in three months in 2023, unless you are doing fast and furious spending ($30k non leather per visit for example) seems like an unreasonable expectation. I see no reason to wait on the other items though. Spending in October vs January isn’t going to have any difference in effect (in fact, if I HAD to choose, I would say continuing to spend without a break eliminates the thought that you were disappearing after a bag purchase).
 
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