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I wasn't going to chime in but I feel I must. This idea that LV is less prestigious because of all the fakes circulating around is one I find fascinating, for several reasons. By the way OP, I live in Asia so I understand the hierarchical culture (and I don't want to revisit the LV is a brand for secretaries issue) but I will explain why this thinking is absurd and misguided.

I live in a major Asian city where there is a big Hermes and DIRECTLY across the street there is a mall with high quality fake Hermes in every color, leather, and hardware. Less than a half block away, there is a shop selling high quality fake Chanel bags....wait, I misspoke, there are two shops, same block. The reason why it seems like LV is more counterfeited is because the canvas pieces have been faked cheaply and sometimes really badly. My housekeeper has a horrible fake LV, but she is so happy with it, and no one, no one, would ever think it was real, but it is those bags that cause people to turn their nose up at LV. The fake canvas bags worn by the underclass in Asia, makes the middle and upper class want to disassociate themselves from that. However, the reality is, there are plenty of leather and pleather fake Chanel and Hermes bags out there but they aren't as obvious because the underclass can't afford those higher end fakes. That is the reality.

As for anyone who thinks that just because people have money they are someone you would want to associate yourself with, I will share this story as food for thought. Many years ago, more than fifteen years or so, a friend and I were going to lunch with a group of ladies in our social circle, including a
US Senator's wife. She was wearing a Chanel bag and one of the women asked her, "did you get that from our Hong Kong source?" She said she had and several of them went on to comment on their source's latest catalogue of items. Apparently, this contact in HK provided high end fakes of every brand, and sent them catalogues and everything! The majority of the women were sitting there with fake bags! And that was nearly twenty years ago!

So my point is, if you want to buy "prestigious" brands to align yourself with a "higher class" of people, just be aware that they are equally prone to wear the fakes as the underclass you so want to avoid associating with, the only difference is that theirs aren't as obvious. With that being the case, why not just buy what you love, can afford or find a good value? Oh, wait, I forgot, the pull of society is so much more important than what you think as an individual, and everyone else's opinion (whether expressed or not) is more important. I understand that that is largely the way here in Asia, but please, you are a grown woman, with your own money are you not?

If you want some brands I seldom see faked....perhaps Ferragamo, Moynat or Dior, but I have seen them, just not on every block. Hermes, Chanel, Gucci, BV, LV, YSL, Prada, Miu Miu, Goyard, and even Coach are all in the same boat.
 
Well, seeing OP come from Taiwan I am actually very shock. I move to Taiwan 3 months ago and I am an Asian grown up in New Zealand. My fiancé come from a very wealthy family and he absolutely hating the prestigious brands OP have mentioned earlier, Chanel and even Hermes. He made the comments such as 50% of LV, Chanel and Hermes carrier in Taiwan are call girls (I do apologize for his words). He keep making comments when he see me in those brands. So I do want to give TPF a true view of Taiwan high class groups, they see Chanel and Hermes the same, in fact, he only wears clothes and bags that does not have brand but tailor made in Europe. I still buying and carrying my LV and Hermes because that's what I like and I am glad I earn my own money. I am not as rich as him and I am proud that I have my own income that I can afford to buy what I like. He been trying to explain to me that although he didn't judge me by what I am wearing but he can't stop his friends do and what they will laugh at my back because I wear "cheap brands" such as Hermes in their point of view. Do I care? No. Do I still love my LVs and keep buying them? Yes. I can't deny OP's own point of view and I also agree one of the comments "for those whom can't afford Coach we all *****es". Just want to point out to OP, while you view LV as less prestigious many people in your country whom have higher social class than you view Hermes less prestigious too.
 
I wasn't going to chime in but I feel I must. This idea that LV is less prestigious because of all the fakes circulating around is one I find fascinating, for several reasons. By the way OP, I live in Asia so I understand the hierarchical culture (and I don't want to revisit the LV is a brand for secretaries issue) but I will explain why this thinking is absurd and misguided.

I live in a major Asian city where there is a big Hermes and DIRECTLY across the street there is a mall with high quality fake Hermes in every color, leather, and hardware. Less than a half block away, there is a shop selling high quality fake Chanel bags....wait, I misspoke, there are two shops, same block. The reason why it seems like LV is more counterfeited is because the canvas pieces have been faked cheaply and sometimes really badly. My housekeeper has a horrible fake LV, but she is so happy with it, and no one, no one, would ever think it was real, but it is those bags that cause people to turn their nose up at LV. The fake canvas bags worn by the underclass in Asia, makes the middle and upper class want to disassociate themselves from that. However, the reality is, there are plenty of leather and pleather fake Chanel and Hermes bags out there but they aren't as obvious because the underclass can't afford those higher end fakes. That is the reality.

As for anyone who thinks that just because people have money they are someone you would want to associate yourself with, I will share this story as food for thought. Many years ago, more than fifteen years or so, a friend and I were going to lunch with a group of ladies in our social circle, including a
US Senator's wife. She was wearing a Chanel bag and one of the women asked her, "did you get that from our Hong Kong source?" She said she had and several of them went on to comment on their source's latest catalogue of items. Apparently, this contact in HK provided high end fakes of every brand, and sent them catalogues and everything! The majority of the women were sitting there with fake bags! And that was nearly twenty years ago!

So my point is, if you want to buy "prestigious" brands to align yourself with a "higher class" of people, just be aware that they are equally prone to wear the fakes as the underclass you so want to avoid associating with, the only difference is that theirs aren't as obvious. With that being the case, why not just buy what you love, can afford or find a good value? Oh, wait, I forgot, the pull of society is so much more important than what you think as an individual, and everyone else's opinion (whether expressed or not) is more important. I understand that that is largely the way here in Asia, but please, you are a grown woman, with your own money are you not?

If you want some brands I seldom see faked....perhaps Ferragamo, Moynat or Dior, but I have seen them, just not on every block. Hermes, Chanel, Gucci, BV, LV, YSL, Prada, Miu Miu, Goyard, and even Coach are all in the same boat.
*drops the microphone and walks away*

This! I couldn't agree more!
 
And boom there it is! So can we close the thread now?

Thanks Oryx816!

Agree! The latter comments are getting more and more irrelevant! I am just trying to convey the message that in my opinion, LV bags are value for money, and yet people kept harping on the prestigious not prestigious issue when I am not even interested to know the views and opinions on which brand is more prestigious because it is a very subjective opinion. By harping on that, i wonder what does these people want to show seriously. I didn't even complete reading half of those lengthy posts that harps on it, pardon me for my bad English cos reading such lengthy posts is a challenge to me.
 
May I know do I close the thread? I don't think i can find any answer i want here anyway and will like to move on elsewhere. Hence won't be responding anymore. Thank you for all the insights so far.
 
I wasn't going to chime in but I feel I must. This idea that LV is less prestigious because of all the fakes circulating around is one I find fascinating, for several reasons. By the way OP, I live in Asia so I understand the hierarchical culture (and I don't want to revisit the LV is a brand for secretaries issue) but I will explain why this thinking is absurd and misguided.

I live in a major Asian city where there is a big Hermes and DIRECTLY across the street there is a mall with high quality fake Hermes in every color, leather, and hardware. Less than a half block away, there is a shop selling high quality fake Chanel bags....wait, I misspoke, there are two shops, same block. The reason why it seems like LV is more counterfeited is because the canvas pieces have been faked cheaply and sometimes really badly. My housekeeper has a horrible fake LV, but she is so happy with it, and no one, no one, would ever think it was real, but it is those bags that cause people to turn their nose up at LV. The fake canvas bags worn by the underclass in Asia, makes the middle and upper class want to disassociate themselves from that. However, the reality is, there are plenty of leather and pleather fake Chanel and Hermes bags out there but they aren't as obvious because the underclass can't afford those higher end fakes. That is the reality.

As for anyone who thinks that just because people have money they are someone you would want to associate yourself with, I will share this story as food for thought. Many years ago, more than fifteen years or so, a friend and I were going to lunch with a group of ladies in our social circle, including a
US Senator's wife. She was wearing a Chanel bag and one of the women asked her, "did you get that from our Hong Kong source?" She said she had and several of them went on to comment on their source's latest catalogue of items. Apparently, this contact in HK provided high end fakes of every brand, and sent them catalogues and everything! The majority of the women were sitting there with fake bags! And that was nearly twenty years ago!

So my point is, if you want to buy "prestigious" brands to align yourself with a "higher class" of people, just be aware that they are equally prone to wear the fakes as the underclass you so want to avoid associating with, the only difference is that theirs aren't as obvious. With that being the case, why not just buy what you love, can afford or find a good value? Oh, wait, I forgot, the pull of society is so much more important than what you think as an individual, and everyone else's opinion (whether expressed or not) is more important. I understand that that is largely the way here in Asia, but please, you are a grown woman, with your own money are you not?

If you want some brands I seldom see faked....perhaps Ferragamo, Moynat or Dior, but I have seen them, just not on every block. Hermes, Chanel, Gucci, BV, LV, YSL, Prada, Miu Miu, Goyard, and even Coach are all in the same boat.
Your direct approach is always so refreshing! This resonated with me because many years ago while my husband and I were dining in Washington, D.C.. With our Congressman ( US House of Representatives) and his wife, she ( who happens to be a published Author) was proudly carrying a " fake" LV that she bought " around the corner" from a vendor and for whatever reason " advertised " the fact followed up with, " You should get one!". She then proceeded to ask me if mine was real. It was. I didn't take offense to any of the talk, but found it odd. We're all individuals and we all have our priorities. Being pretentious is limiting in a very profound way.

I wasn't going to chime in either, but I did on an earlier page of this post ( so twice now!), and I have a feeling our stories are falling on deaf ears, but I never cease to be amazed ...
 
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Agree! The latter comments are getting more and more irrelevant! I am just trying to convey the message that in my opinion, LV bags are value for money, and yet people kept harping on the prestigious not prestigious issue when I am not even interested to know the views and opinions on which brand is more prestigious because it is a very subjective opinion. By harping on that, i wonder what does these people want to show seriously. I didn't even complete reading half of those lengthy posts that harps on it, pardon me for my bad English cos reading such lengthy posts is a challenge to me.


Unfortunately my dear your comments following the initial statement which started this thread are quite different. Yes people will continue to harp on that because that was the initial statement. When you start these threads yes ma'am it is your opinion but you will also need to be ready for the opinions of others to follow. You came to an LV lover forum and basically said LV was cheap and because you can afford more expensive bags such as Hermes you will buy them as LV is not prestigious enough for you! Oh yes you did state LV quality was good but that got lost in your snobbish attitude. Most of us could not comment in regards to your country because we do not reside in Asia! This may be how your country looks at things but here you telling a bunch of people you are better than them is frowned upon!

That lengthy post should challenge you because it put you in your place!
 
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Unfortunately my dear your comments following the initial statement which started this thread are quite different. Yes people will continue to harp on that because that was the initial statement. When you start these threads yes ma'am it is your opinion but you will also need to be ready for the opinions of others to follow. You came to an LV lover forum and basically said LV was cheap and because you can afford more expensive bags such as Hermes you will buy them as LV is not prestigious enough for you! Oh yes you did state LV quality was good but that got lost in your snobbish attitude. Most of us could not comment in regards to your country because we do not reside in Asia! This may be how your country looks at things but here you telling a bunch of people you are better than them is frowned upon!

That lengthy post should challenge you because it put you in your place!


+1! :yes:

OP, since you are new perhaps you don't realize we can see the posts you make in other forums. I see that while you came here and looked down on the majority of this community of LV lovers, claiming that you prefer prestigious brands, your post of all the bags you own indicates that you have bags that many might consider not as prestigious as LV. For that matter, perhaps some Hermes toting ladies might look down on you for the Aldo shoes you claim to love in some of your posts.

The lessons you should take away from posting in that condescending tone here is as follows: we are a pretty close knit group of LV lovers here, some people save up for them and some of us don't. Some people buy LV as a treat to themselves and that is as high as they can reasonably afford, and that is nothing to look down on at all. And some of us can afford Hermes at the drop of a hat but we don't like Hermes for a variety of reasons, including not caring for the designs or not wanting to play stupid games over acquiring a bag, and won't spend money to fit in to some perceived social group.

I hope you learned something here as you joined the TPF community, and started out on the wrong foot. CornishMon pointed out, and I agree, that attitude is just not acceptable here. As you enter the workforce (according to your posts), I encourage you to be less condescending and to realize that yes, you have the right to your opinion, but everyone else has the right to refute you as well.

Bye Felicia!

(Since you aren't American, you may need to look that saying up).
 
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