Hermes Special Order Bags

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Since this thread is now huge and the internal links to frequently asked questions no longer work, here is a brief FAQ for newcomers to the Hermes Special Order process.

What are the current choices for "a la carte" Special Order bags?
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What is an Hermes Special Order?
Each year Hermes gives select clients the opportunity to customize a classic bag in a made-to-order a la carte process. This thread is only for bag A La Carte orders (please use the separate threads for watch SOs and shoe SOs). "A la carte", "SO" (special order), and "HSS" (horse shoe stamp) are used interchangeably on this forum.

When is the Special Order season?
Currently, there is one SO season each calendar year, opening around the middle of February and closing when slots run out or the end of December, whichever occurs first. New SO menus are typically leaked in February and remain constant until the following calendar year. Individual stores have complete discretion on when, within this window, they offer SO appointments to their clients.

Which specs can I customize?
Hermes defines which specs can be customized and these specs can change each SO season. Generally these specs include: leather type, leather color, and hardware color. At your SO appointment, your SA will present you will the limited menu of choices including bag types and sizes (Birkin 25, Kelly 28, etc), pre-set combination designs (line, verso, multico, etc), leather choices, leather colors, hardwares, and a map for which options can be selected for which bag type and size. Not all leathers and hardwares are allowed for all bag types and sizes.

Can I make physical changes to a bag definition during SO?
Sometimes clients would like to change a physical aspect of a bag, like increase the handle drop or add a pocket or a strap. Unfortunately, Hermes does not allow any type of alteration to the bag definition during SO. For extensive changes like these, a client would need to pursue a “Horizon order” which can be read about here.

How long will my SO take?
There is no way to predict how long a SO will take from placing the order to receipt of the finished product. Although Hermes has recently put forward efforts to fulfill a la carte orders within a year, it isn’t uncommon for bags to arrive in just a few months or also much longer than the year estimate.

Can my SA give me status my existing SO?
Unfortunately, the info that can be seen by SAs at the local store is very limited. They can generally see if the order is still outstanding (ie hasn’t been cancelled) but do not get status updates beyond that. Some stores will update clients when they get notice that a bag has been shipped from Paris but other stores wait until the bag is physically in store before alerting the client.

Do I need to place a deposit for SO?
In most regions of the world, a deposit is not required for SOs. However, some Asian and Middle Eastern locations do seem to request at least a partial deposit. Deposits may also be required in other regions if the SO selections are very personalized (ie if you have your personal initials hot stamped onto the bag) such that selling the bag to a different client, if the original client declines the bag, would be difficult.

Do I receive confirmation of my SO after placing my order?
In most regions of the world, the client gives their specifications to their SA and that is the last they hear about it until the bag arrives. Paris stores seem to be an exception to this and send the client a confirmation email within a few weeks of placing the order.

Is there a premium for a SO bag?
No, there is no premium price for SO bags. Their price is the same as any other standard stock bag of the same specifications at the time of delivery.

Is my SO a quota bag?
SO bags are generally counted toward a client’s two-bags-per-year limit at the time that the bag is received and paid for. If a client has already maxed out their quota bag allocation for the year, some stores will allow an exception to purchase your SO as a third bag for the year while other stores will require the customer to wait until a new calendar year before receiving the bag. These policies are subject to be changed per store at their convenience so it is always wise to check with your specific SA.

Where can I get ideas for my SO bag?
This thread shows unique combination bags and this thread shows contrasting stitching bags. Please consider posting your bag there once it arrives!

Where can I see historical SO menus?
2024 on post 21,296 page 1420 Feb 7, 2024
2023 on post 19,874 page 1325 Feb 3, 2023
2022 on post 17,729 page 1182 Sept 13, 2021
2021 on post 15,439 page 1030 Aug 16, 2020
2020 on post 13,222 page 882 Aug 8, 2019
2019 on post 10,472 page 699 Sept 10, 2018
2018 on post 7,687 page 513 Sept 15, 2017
2017 on post 4,749 page 317 Sept 26, 2016
 
Philosophical question...if you got offered a SO and assuming both your number 1 and number 2 wishlist colors were available but your number 1 (by a lot) was a current color with many current acceptable sister-colors while your number 2 is a far less often seen and highly in demand color with few acceptable substitutions...which would you request for your SO? In other words, if I could only have one more bag for the rest of my life, I would want color A or one of its close sister colors. However, I feel there is a strong possibility of getting color A (or similar) as a non-SO, perhaps even in this quota period. Color B I really like and I highly doubt I would ever be offered one outside of SO, so do I risk missing out on the color A family in order to ensure I get color B, even if I prefer A over B? What would you do?
 
Philosophical question...if you got offered a SO and assuming both your number 1 and number 2 wishlist colors were available but your number 1 (by a lot) was a current color with many current acceptable sister-colors while your number 2 is a far less often seen and highly in demand color with few acceptable substitutions...which would you request for your SO? In other words, if I could only have one more bag for the rest of my life, I would want color A or one of its close sister colors. However, I feel there is a strong possibility of getting color A (or similar) as a non-SO, perhaps even in this quota period. Color B I really like and I highly doubt I would ever be offered one outside of SO, so do I risk missing out on the color A family in order to ensure I get color B, even if I prefer A over B? What would you do?
Rare and unlikely to be offered
 
Philosophical question...if you got offered a SO and assuming both your number 1 and number 2 wishlist colors were available but your number 1 (by a lot) was a current color with many current acceptable sister-colors while your number 2 is a far less often seen and highly in demand color with few acceptable substitutions...which would you request for your SO? In other words, if I could only have one more bag for the rest of my life, I would want color A or one of its close sister colors. However, I feel there is a strong possibility of getting color A (or similar) as a non-SO, perhaps even in this quota period. Color B I really like and I highly doubt I would ever be offered one outside of SO, so do I risk missing out on the color A family in order to ensure I get color B, even if I prefer A over B? What would you do?
well this is complicated! Let's make it simple...
If your dream bag is, say, a black Kelly, then no you do not need to SO it if you are regularly offered bags at your boutique or are ok with buying bags at resale. the q is
- how many bags are you ok with owning, now and later? If you only have room for a couple Kelly/Birkin type bags (already a huge luxury problem) order your dream bag whatever it may be even black on black.
- what can you realistically get? this means - are you ok buying preloved? If so, many options, if not, your SO is directly related to your ability to get the bag you want at retail. Being able to special order does NOT mean you can podium order to your heart's content, but if you can, by all means PO the easily found bag and SO the rare one.

Me...I SO'd my ultimate dream bag, a black K. Twice. Because I am not a VVVIP and I could not assume I would have more Kelly bags, or be offered my perfect black Kelly in size, leather, HW. I am only now in a place where I would branch out.
YMMV.
 
Philosophical question...if you got offered a SO and assuming both your number 1 and number 2 wishlist colors were available but your number 1 (by a lot) was a current color with many current acceptable sister-colors while your number 2 is a far less often seen and highly in demand color with few acceptable substitutions...which would you request for your SO? In other words, if I could only have one more bag for the rest of my life, I would want color A or one of its close sister colors. However, I feel there is a strong possibility of getting color A (or similar) as a non-SO, perhaps even in this quota period. Color B I really like and I highly doubt I would ever be offered one outside of SO, so do I risk missing out on the color A family in order to ensure I get color B, even if I prefer A over B? What would you do?

If you eventually want to add color B to your collection I would probably pick color B especially if there is a strong possibility to get color A or similar alternatives.

Last SO period I picked a seasonal color that wasn’t my number one choice but it was a top choice. I wasn’t sure when this seasonal color would be available again if not through SO and I knew the colors for next SO period would change. I thought maybe this color could be taken off the list of choices so this could be my only opportunity to get this color new from the store. Also, I knew it would be easier to get something in my number one color or something similar to it down the line.
 
Philosophical question...if you got offered a SO and assuming both your number 1 and number 2 wishlist colors were available but your number 1 (by a lot) was a current color with many current acceptable sister-colors while your number 2 is a far less often seen and highly in demand color with few acceptable substitutions...which would you request for your SO? In other words, if I could only have one more bag for the rest of my life, I would want color A or one of its close sister colors. However, I feel there is a strong possibility of getting color A (or similar) as a non-SO, perhaps even in this quota period. Color B I really like and I highly doubt I would ever be offered one outside of SO, so do I risk missing out on the color A family in order to ensure I get color B, even if I prefer A over B? What would you do?

B
 
Hi All, joining this conversation as I'm getting ready for my first SO. I definitely want a Kelly and it will be my first Kelly. Currently have a Birkin30 only.

I was thinking of a Kelly25 or smaller like a mini Kelly but must check out those first -- I hear a lot of crap over mini/small bags but honestly I generally prefer to be hands free and wear a nice kelly on my shoulder or even fashionably crossbody. Over the years I find myself preferring to take 2 bags if I have to carry a lot of things -- a shoulder or crossbody bag to hold my essentials (wallet, lipstick, keys) and a secondary bag for non-essentials that I can easily leave anywhere while the other bag is on me. Hence I think a small/mini bag will be fine for me regardless of changes in my lifestyle in the future (like having a baby).

Sorry for that rambling over my size debate. I tried to backread within reason but does anyone have any clue what colors are offered and leather types are offered for this seasons SOs?

I know I want a chevre, still unsure what color and on HW I'm torn on Rose Gold or Black Hardware. But I think if I get a black hardware I'd definitely get a black bag.

Still trying to educate myself on SOs but appreciate any advice. This will be my first Kelly and I'm happy to go for a classic/common combination because I frankly don't have a lot of patience so I'd rather get any K in SO even if it could possibly be offered to me somewhat.
 
This probably only happens in ASIA.

A friend once contacted a Managing Director about an SA’s dishonesty regarding bags. Needless to say he’s never seen again on the floor.

Hermès is careful on these things that’s why there is some sort of policy and they are honest. They do tell clients that SOs are very limited but it’s not to say it’s only for VIPs or high-spenders. I’m neither of these but I always get a spot.
Do you get offered an SO every time the store is offering them? I mean, what happens if you decline? Does that mean that you won't get offered anymore SOs? Is that at all a concern? (If I was offered a bag SO these might be my ever so slightly paranoid thoughts. :) )
 
Hi All, joining this conversation as I'm getting ready for my first SO. I definitely want a Kelly and it will be my first Kelly. Currently have a Birkin30 only.

I was thinking of a Kelly25 or smaller like a mini Kelly but must check out those first -- I hear a lot of crap over mini/small bags but honestly I generally prefer to be hands free and wear a nice kelly on my shoulder or even fashionably crossbody. Over the years I find myself preferring to take 2 bags if I have to carry a lot of things -- a shoulder or crossbody bag to hold my essentials (wallet, lipstick, keys) and a secondary bag for non-essentials that I can easily leave anywhere while the other bag is on me. Hence I think a small/mini bag will be fine for me regardless of changes in my lifestyle in the future (like having a baby).

Sorry for that rambling over my size debate. I tried to backread within reason but does anyone have any clue what colors are offered and leather types are offered for this seasons SOs?

I know I want a chevre, still unsure what color and on HW I'm torn on Rose Gold or Black Hardware. But I think if I get a black hardware I'd definitely get a black bag.

Still trying to educate myself on SOs but appreciate any advice. This will be my first Kelly and I'm happy to go for a classic/common combination because I frankly don't have a lot of patience so I'd rather get any K in SO even if it could possibly be offered to me somewhat.
I have a B25 which I almost never use b/c it's handheld. On the other hand, I like having it. If that makes sense. With a Kelly you wouldn't have that restriction. Haven't used the Kelly either for quite a while. Have been using a bag loaded with grommets. (I have no shame :)).
 
Hi All, joining this conversation as I'm getting ready for my first SO. I definitely want a Kelly and it will be my first Kelly. Currently have a Birkin30 only.

I was thinking of a Kelly25 or smaller like a mini Kelly but must check out those first -- I hear a lot of crap over mini/small bags but honestly I generally prefer to be hands free and wear a nice kelly on my shoulder or even fashionably crossbody. Over the years I find myself preferring to take 2 bags if I have to carry a lot of things -- a shoulder or crossbody bag to hold my essentials (wallet, lipstick, keys) and a secondary bag for non-essentials that I can easily leave anywhere while the other bag is on me. Hence I think a small/mini bag will be fine for me regardless of changes in my lifestyle in the future (like having a baby).

Sorry for that rambling over my size debate. I tried to backread within reason but does anyone have any clue what colors are offered and leather types are offered for this seasons SOs?

I know I want a chevre, still unsure what color and on HW I'm torn on Rose Gold or Black Hardware. But I think if I get a black hardware I'd definitely get a black bag.

Still trying to educate myself on SOs but appreciate any advice. This will be my first Kelly and I'm happy to go for a classic/common combination because I frankly don't have a lot of patience so I'd rather get any K in SO even if it could possibly be offered to me somewhat.
There is no Black hardware at all and I believe Rose Gold is only offered for Constance SOs. If you cannot wait and have no patience, it might be better to get a PO. You would understand yourself the best.
 
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Hi All, joining this conversation as I'm getting ready for my first SO. I definitely want a Kelly and it will be my first Kelly. Currently have a Birkin30 only.

I was thinking of a Kelly25 or smaller like a mini Kelly but must check out those first -- I hear a lot of crap over mini/small bags but honestly I generally prefer to be hands free and wear a nice kelly on my shoulder or even fashionably crossbody. Over the years I find myself preferring to take 2 bags if I have to carry a lot of things -- a shoulder or crossbody bag to hold my essentials (wallet, lipstick, keys) and a secondary bag for non-essentials that I can easily leave anywhere while the other bag is on me. Hence I think a small/mini bag will be fine for me regardless of changes in my lifestyle in the future (like having a baby).

Sorry for that rambling over my size debate. I tried to backread within reason but does anyone have any clue what colors are offered and leather types are offered for this seasons SOs?

I know I want a chevre, still unsure what color and on HW I'm torn on Rose Gold or Black Hardware. But I think if I get a black hardware I'd definitely get a black bag.

Still trying to educate myself on SOs but appreciate any advice. This will be my first Kelly and I'm happy to go for a classic/common combination because I frankly don't have a lot of patience so I'd rather get any K in SO even if it could possibly be offered to me somewhat.
There is no black hardware except for the limited edition So Black line that was released once, 8 years ago, and never again. (I heard the black coating chipped easily)
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