Hermes Special Order Bags

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Since this thread is now huge and the internal links to frequently asked questions no longer work, here is a brief FAQ for newcomers to the Hermes Special Order process.

What are the current choices for "a la carte" Special Order bags?
Current color charts Page 1529 Post 22,934 February 16, 2025
Most Recently Known Selection Definitions (bag types, sizes, combos) Sept 4, 2021 - Probably out of date
Thread Choices for stitching. - Probably out of date
Lucky Symbols for stamping.


What is an Hermes Special Order?
Each year Hermes gives select clients the opportunity to customize a classic bag in a made-to-order a la carte process. This thread is only for bag A La Carte orders (please use the separate threads for watch SOs and shoe SOs). "A la carte", "SO" (special order), and "HSS" (horse shoe stamp) are used interchangeably on this forum.

When is the Special Order season?
Currently, there is one SO season each calendar year, opening around the middle of February and closing when slots run out or the end of December, whichever occurs first. New SO menus are typically leaked in February and remain constant until the following calendar year. Individual stores have complete discretion on when, within this window, they offer SO appointments to their clients.

Which specs can I customize?
Hermes defines which specs can be customized and these specs can change each SO season. Generally these specs include: leather type, leather color, and hardware color. At your SO appointment, your SA will present you will the limited menu of choices including bag types and sizes (Birkin 25, Kelly 28, etc), pre-set combination designs (line, verso, multico, etc), leather choices, leather colors, hardwares, and a map for which options can be selected for which bag type and size. Not all leathers and hardwares are allowed for all bag types and sizes.

Can I make physical changes to a bag definition during SO?
Sometimes clients would like to change a physical aspect of a bag, like increase the handle drop or add a pocket or a strap. Unfortunately, Hermes does not allow any type of alteration to the bag definition during SO. For extensive changes like these, a client would need to pursue a “Horizon order” which can be read about here.

How long will my SO take?
There is no way to predict how long a SO will take from placing the order to receipt of the finished product. Although Hermes has recently put forward efforts to fulfill a la carte orders within a year, it isn’t uncommon for bags to arrive in just a few months or also much longer than the year estimate.

Can my SA give me status my existing SO?
Unfortunately, the info that can be seen by SAs at the local store is very limited. They can generally see if the order is still outstanding (ie hasn’t been cancelled) but do not get status updates beyond that. Some stores will update clients when they get notice that a bag has been shipped from Paris but other stores wait until the bag is physically in store before alerting the client.

Do I need to place a deposit for SO?
In most regions of the world, a deposit is not required for SOs. However, some Asian and Middle Eastern locations do seem to request at least a partial deposit. Deposits may also be required in other regions if the SO selections are very personalized (ie if you have your personal initials hot stamped onto the bag) such that selling the bag to a different client, if the original client declines the bag, would be difficult.

Do I receive confirmation of my SO after placing my order?
In most regions of the world, the client gives their specifications to their SA and that is the last they hear about it until the bag arrives. Paris stores seem to be an exception to this and send the client a confirmation email within a few weeks of placing the order.

Is there a premium for a SO bag?
No, there is no premium price for SO bags. Their price is the same as any other standard stock bag of the same specifications at the time of delivery.

Is my SO a quota bag?
SO bags are generally counted toward a client’s two-bags-per-year limit at the time that the bag is received and paid for. If a client has already maxed out their quota bag allocation for the year, some stores will allow an exception to purchase your SO as a third bag for the year while other stores will require the customer to wait until a new calendar year before receiving the bag. These policies are subject to be changed per store at their convenience so it is always wise to check with your specific SA.

Where can I get ideas for my SO bag?
This thread shows unique combination bags and this thread shows contrasting stitching bags. Please consider posting your bag there once it arrives!

Where can I see historical SO menus?
2024 on post 21,296 page 1420 Feb 7, 2024
2023 on post 19,874 page 1325 Feb 3, 2023
2022 on post 17,729 page 1182 Sept 13, 2021
2021 on post 15,439 page 1030 Aug 16, 2020
2020 on post 13,222 page 882 Aug 8, 2019
2019 on post 10,472 page 699 Sept 10, 2018
2018 on post 7,687 page 513 Sept 15, 2017
2017 on post 4,749 page 317 Sept 26, 2016
 
Rose Lipstick isn't on the PE17 list. It is available as a thread for a specific color (one of the pinks that's available for exterior, can't recall which ATM) but it is not available as a lining. You can request a different stitch to your lining but usually only what's available in the SO box. What's your interior?
Generally, as long as your stitch matches your interior, Paris will approve it. Does that make ANY sense? :p
Or do you have the AW list already?! If so please reveal!
I was emailing my SA and Rose Azalee is available as a thread option. I'm doing all black (interior and exterior) seller with RA stitch. Well, that's my plan today. I'm not thrilled with the interior options. Who knows if I even have the right list (most recent published from SO help thread). Do you foresee any problems with Paris approval? Or know purple thread options for chèvre (noir).?
 
I was emailing my SA and Rose Azalee is available as a thread option. I'm doing all black (interior and exterior) seller with RA stitch. Well, that's my plan today. I'm not thrilled with the interior options. Who knows if I even have the right list (most recent published from SO help thread). Do you foresee any problems with Paris approval? Or know purple thread options for chèvre (noir).?

Congrats! Your choice sounds [emoji106]
I think raisin has purple thread but you may have to choose raisin as the interior.
 
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I was emailing my SA and Rose Azalee is available as a thread option. I'm doing all black (interior and exterior) seller with RA stitch. Well, that's my plan today. I'm not thrilled with the interior options. Who knows if I even have the right list (most recent published from SO help thread). Do you foresee any problems with Paris approval? Or know purple thread options for chèvre (noir).?
Rose Azalee is available, Rose Lipstick is not.
I don't think you'll have a problem with exterior contrast stitch only BUT make sure your SA notes you want noir interior. It will be pretty....I agree the interior colors aren't amazing, and if you get limited to the chevre colors (this happened to me last fall but not this spring) it's REALLY not as much fun.
The only purple available for stitch AFAIK is Raisin which will not pop on noir. I wanted to do a pink or purple stitch on grey and decided to wait til a brighter pink is available. Your bag will be lovely.
 
Rose Azalee is available, Rose Lipstick is not.
I don't think you'll have a problem with exterior contrast stitch only BUT make sure your SA notes you want noir interior. It will be pretty....I agree the interior colors aren't amazing, and if you get limited to the chevre colors (this happened to me last fall but not this spring) it's REALLY not as much fun.
The only purple available for stitch AFAIK is Raisin which will not pop on noir. I wanted to do a pink or purple stitch on grey and decided to wait til a brighter pink is available. Your bag will be lovely.
Thank you @QuelleFromage . Appreciate your expertise and input!
 
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Rose Lipstick isn't on the PE17 list. It is available as a thread for a specific color (one of the pinks that's available for exterior, can't recall which ATM) but it is not available as a lining. You can request a different stitch to your lining but usually only what's available in the SO box. What's your interior?
Generally, as long as your stitch matches your interior, Paris will approve it. Does that make ANY sense? :p
Or do you have the AW list already?! If so please reveal!
Does this mean I can choose 1 contrast stitch for exterior and another different contrast stitch for the interior?
 
One more helpful info that @Txoceangirl and I just learned. Now you can only get a contrast stitch on a bicolor SO.

So if you want a black chèvre K, for example, but don't immediately gravitate toward any of the limited chèvre options for interior and just want black on black, you can't get contrast stitch.

Of course the exceptions are Etoupe, Gold, etc that already have contrast.

Our store thought that was interesting, strange, and new.

I concur. It's just thread!!! Why not allow it on any SO?
 
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One more helpful info that @Txoceangirl and I just learned. Now you can only get a contrast stitch on a bicolor SO.

So if you want a black chèvre K, for example, but don't immediately gravitate toward any of the limited chèvre options for interior and just want black on black, you can't get contrast stitch.

Of course the exceptions are Etoupe, Gold, etc that already have contrast.

Our store thought that was interesting, strange, and new.

I concur. It's just thread!!! Why not allow it on any SO?
At least our SA came up with a clever "workaround" for my bag! And the clock starts.....
 
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One more helpful info that @Txoceangirl and I just learned. Now you can only get a contrast stitch on a bicolor SO.

So if you want a black chèvre K, for example, but don't immediately gravitate toward any of the limited chèvre options for interior and just want black on black, you can't get contrast stitch.

Of course the exceptions are Etoupe, Gold, etc that already have contrast.

Our store thought that was interesting, strange, and new.

I concur. It's just thread!!! Why not allow it on any SO?
So if I want something like this:
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It's not possible?
 
Just a note...there are "rules" for SOs which are, like all H rules, not applied across the board, and interpreted differently by different stores.
It is also true that some stores will limit choices in order not to even risk the hassle of being turned down by Paris.
Having placed SOs in three countries over three years, I have had completely differing experiences.
For instance, I had the "chèvre problem" where I was told that for a chèvre bag I had to choose from chèvre list for interior rather than from lining list. Now, I know this isn't how it's supposed to work. but when the head of bags at a major European flagship thinks it's so, it's so. At the same time, I ordered a contrast stitch that did not match any of my leather choices - suggested by the same SM.
Then I order a chèvre bag in the US and have no such restrictions BUT am told contrast stitch that doesn't match the lining may be refused.

There is no way to predict what you're going to be able to do once you have the trunk in front of you, so I strongly suggest asking for what you want and then working with what your store interprets the rules to be. In other works, keep your hopes up!
 
Just a note...there are "rules" for SOs which are, like all H rules, not applied across the board, and interpreted differently by different stores.
It is also true that some stores will limit choices in order not to even risk the hassle of being turned down by Paris.
Having placed SOs in three countries over three years, I have had completely differing experiences.
For instance, I had the "chèvre problem" where I was told that for a chèvre bag I had to choose from chèvre list for interior rather than from lining list. Now, I know this isn't how it's supposed to work. but when the head of bags at a major European flagship thinks it's so, it's so. At the same time, I ordered a contrast stitch that did not match any of my leather choices - suggested by the same SM.
Then I order a chèvre bag in the US and have no such restrictions BUT am told contrast stitch that doesn't match the lining may be refused.

There is no way to predict what you're going to be able to do once you have the trunk in front of you, so I strongly suggest asking for what you want and then working with what your store interprets the rules to be. In other works, keep your hopes up!
Yes, absolutely!

We read through the selection instructions together. They called out single color versus bi-i color. This could be just US options and may not pertain to EU or other locations. My previous post should have acknowledged this.

For Chèvre exterior in noir and wanting a Rose Azalee contrast stitch, I had to add an interior color of which I chose raisin so that it didn't pop. My original was black and black with RA stitch....and did not meet standard (for US instruction)

Oh, the H SO mystery or is it misery????
 
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Yes, absolutely!

We read through the selection. Instructions together. They called out single color va hi color. This could be just US options and may not pertain to EU or other locations. My previous post should have acknowledged this.

For Chèvre exterior in noir and wanting a Rose Azalee contrast stitch, I had to add an interior color of which I chose raisin so that it didn't pop. My original was black and black with RA stitch....and did not meet standard.

Oh the H SO mystery or is it misery????
LOL! All so true.......
It's not so much mystery as usual H inconsistency. Technically, the special order forms allow a single color or a bicolor with no in-between which is why you had to choose a non-black interior. Sometimes, at some stores, you might have wiggle room on that.
I always thought that placing orders in the EU would give me more choice/the EU stores would be more willing to give a non-standard request to Paris but this hasn't proven true. US and EU are different but one wasn't more flex than the other.

In any case your bag will be lovely and a little flash of rich raisin will be gorgeous!
 
I did 5 so over the years in paris
Thru my experiences
After submitting my form
My sa will usually ask me to come back an hour later to check if my combo is yes or no
I will get an instant answer within same day
No such thing as maybe or should be

Hi Bagidiotic, do you find that you get the SOs quicker if you placed in Paris vs your home store?
 
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