Hermes Special Order Bags

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Since this thread is now huge and the internal links to frequently asked questions no longer work, here is a brief FAQ for newcomers to the Hermes Special Order process.

What are the current choices for "a la carte" Special Order bags?
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What is an Hermes Special Order?
Each year Hermes gives select clients the opportunity to customize a classic bag in a made-to-order a la carte process. This thread is only for bag A La Carte orders (please use the separate threads for watch SOs and shoe SOs). "A la carte", "SO" (special order), and "HSS" (horse shoe stamp) are used interchangeably on this forum.

When is the Special Order season?
Currently, there is one SO season each calendar year, opening around the middle of February and closing when slots run out or the end of December, whichever occurs first. New SO menus are typically leaked in February and remain constant until the following calendar year. Individual stores have complete discretion on when, within this window, they offer SO appointments to their clients.

Which specs can I customize?
Hermes defines which specs can be customized and these specs can change each SO season. Generally these specs include: leather type, leather color, and hardware color. At your SO appointment, your SA will present you will the limited menu of choices including bag types and sizes (Birkin 25, Kelly 28, etc), pre-set combination designs (line, verso, multico, etc), leather choices, leather colors, hardwares, and a map for which options can be selected for which bag type and size. Not all leathers and hardwares are allowed for all bag types and sizes.

Can I make physical changes to a bag definition during SO?
Sometimes clients would like to change a physical aspect of a bag, like increase the handle drop or add a pocket or a strap. Unfortunately, Hermes does not allow any type of alteration to the bag definition during SO. For extensive changes like these, a client would need to pursue a “Horizon order” which can be read about here.

How long will my SO take?
There is no way to predict how long a SO will take from placing the order to receipt of the finished product. Although Hermes has recently put forward efforts to fulfill a la carte orders within a year, it isn’t uncommon for bags to arrive in just a few months or also much longer than the year estimate.

Can my SA give me status my existing SO?
Unfortunately, the info that can be seen by SAs at the local store is very limited. They can generally see if the order is still outstanding (ie hasn’t been cancelled) but do not get status updates beyond that. Some stores will update clients when they get notice that a bag has been shipped from Paris but other stores wait until the bag is physically in store before alerting the client.

Do I need to place a deposit for SO?
In most regions of the world, a deposit is not required for SOs. However, some Asian and Middle Eastern locations do seem to request at least a partial deposit. Deposits may also be required in other regions if the SO selections are very personalized (ie if you have your personal initials hot stamped onto the bag) such that selling the bag to a different client, if the original client declines the bag, would be difficult.

Do I receive confirmation of my SO after placing my order?
In most regions of the world, the client gives their specifications to their SA and that is the last they hear about it until the bag arrives. Paris stores seem to be an exception to this and send the client a confirmation email within a few weeks of placing the order.

Is there a premium for a SO bag?
No, there is no premium price for SO bags. Their price is the same as any other standard stock bag of the same specifications at the time of delivery.

Is my SO a quota bag?
SO bags are generally counted toward a client’s two-bags-per-year limit at the time that the bag is received and paid for. If a client has already maxed out their quota bag allocation for the year, some stores will allow an exception to purchase your SO as a third bag for the year while other stores will require the customer to wait until a new calendar year before receiving the bag. These policies are subject to be changed per store at their convenience so it is always wise to check with your specific SA.

Where can I get ideas for my SO bag?
This thread shows unique combination bags and this thread shows contrasting stitching bags. Please consider posting your bag there once it arrives!

Where can I see historical SO menus?
2024 on post 21,296 page 1420 Feb 7, 2024
2023 on post 19,874 page 1325 Feb 3, 2023
2022 on post 17,729 page 1182 Sept 13, 2021
2021 on post 15,439 page 1030 Aug 16, 2020
2020 on post 13,222 page 882 Aug 8, 2019
2019 on post 10,472 page 699 Sept 10, 2018
2018 on post 7,687 page 513 Sept 15, 2017
2017 on post 4,749 page 317 Sept 26, 2016
 
I am going to place my first special order tomorrow (yay!!) and would love some advice. I have two options that are night and day.

My current bags are: B30 in fauve barenia with PHW, K35 in gris tourterelle togo with PHW, Roulis in Vache Natural and PHW, Lindy 30 in blue jean clemence (rarely used), Jige in gold swift.

1. I am a huge fan of the smooth leathers and am seriously considering ordering a K28 Sellier in bleu obscur sombrero. Wish I could do this leather in a B but don't think that's possible. Hoping I can still line with a pop color (thinking rose jaipur would be a stunning contrast on the nearly black blue) and I want to pick a contrast stitch that also brings out the blue. I'm not sure if I should pick a softer pink thread or maybe raisin or if a blue thread would be better. My SA said the stitching has to be perfect so I want to highlight that craftsmanship without doing something glaring like a white. And what hardware would you select?

2. B30 in bamboo swift. Bamboo has always made me happy and I do think a color would be a nice addition to my collection. Maybe lining with gris perle with gris perle contrast stitch. Am totally open to other suggestions for bamboo. I am definitely not a "loud" person but my SA says a special order is a chance to really have fun. I would also consider this leather in clemence instead of swift because I feel bamboo is casual and might suit that leather better than in swift.

I don't plan to have a vast collection of different bags, so I always feel a responsibility and almost pressure to make smart, thoughtful choices. Nothing feels worse than regret.

Any thoughts or advice?
 
I am going to place my first special order tomorrow (yay!!) and would love some advice. I have two options that are night and day.

My current bags are: B30 in fauve barenia with PHW, K35 in gris tourterelle togo with PHW, Roulis in Vache Natural and PHW, Lindy 30 in blue jean clemence (rarely used), Jige in gold swift.

1. I am a huge fan of the smooth leathers and am seriously considering ordering a K28 Sellier in bleu obscur sombrero. Wish I could do this leather in a B but don't think that's possible. Hoping I can still line with a pop color (thinking rose jaipur would be a stunning contrast on the nearly black blue) and I want to pick a contrast stitch that also brings out the blue. I'm not sure if I should pick a softer pink thread or maybe raisin or if a blue thread would be better. My SA said the stitching has to be perfect so I want to highlight that craftsmanship without doing something glaring like a white. And what hardware would you select?

2. B30 in bamboo swift. Bamboo has always made me happy and I do think a color would be a nice addition to my collection. Maybe lining with gris perle with gris perle contrast stitch. Am totally open to other suggestions for bamboo. I am definitely not a "loud" person but my SA says a special order is a chance to really have fun. I would also consider this leather in clemence instead of swift because I feel bamboo is casual and might suit that leather better than in swift.

I don't plan to have a vast collection of different bags, so I always feel a responsibility and almost pressure to make smart, thoughtful choices. Nothing feels worse than regret.

Any thoughts or advice?
I'm more into lurking these days but will pipe in with some thoughts as I'm a smooth leathers fan as well.

A sellier K is a pretty special thing to SO as they are hard to find in production and rarely in Sombrero, more often Epsom. And you don't have a small Kelly, so K28 sellier fills a nice gap. Bleu Obscur would be really gorgeous - what you need to find out is what your store will let you order as lining. With a contrast stitch (I would use a slightly less warm pink than RJ, or a bright blue) it will be a unique bag that's clearly an SO. I just personally love the look of a sellier with a contrast stitch, take a look at some of the bags on the forum!
You can take the thread samples from the SO trunk and get a good idea of what they will look like on the leather, this will help you choose.
Personally I'd choose PHW on that combo, shiny because the leather is quite matte, but you should choose what you love.
My last SO was K28 sellier also - I did noir chèvre with Bleu Saphir lining and Cobalt contrast stitching.

Bamboo is a great color, but a bright B30 isn't that hard to find whereas a sellier K is. Of course the rumor is that they take longer too!
 
I am going to place my first special order tomorrow (yay!!) and would love some advice. I have two options that are night and day.

My current bags are: B30 in fauve barenia with PHW, K35 in gris tourterelle togo with PHW, Roulis in Vache Natural and PHW, Lindy 30 in blue jean clemence (rarely used), Jige in gold swift.

1. I am a huge fan of the smooth leathers and am seriously considering ordering a K28 Sellier in bleu obscur sombrero. Wish I could do this leather in a B but don't think that's possible. Hoping I can still line with a pop color (thinking rose jaipur would be a stunning contrast on the nearly black blue) and I want to pick a contrast stitch that also brings out the blue. I'm not sure if I should pick a softer pink thread or maybe raisin or if a blue thread would be better. My SA said the stitching has to be perfect so I want to highlight that craftsmanship without doing something glaring like a white. And what hardware would you select?

2. B30 in bamboo swift. Bamboo has always made me happy and I do think a color would be a nice addition to my collection. Maybe lining with gris perle with gris perle contrast stitch. Am totally open to other suggestions for bamboo. I am definitely not a "loud" person but my SA says a special order is a chance to really have fun. I would also consider this leather in clemence instead of swift because I feel bamboo is casual and might suit that leather better than in swift.

I don't plan to have a vast collection of different bags, so I always feel a responsibility and almost pressure to make smart, thoughtful choices. Nothing feels worse than regret.

Any thoughts or advice?

Congrats on your SO!

Agree with QF that a sellier 28 sounds great for your collection. . If you go with blue obscure i will suggest a lighter blue stitching. The sellier contours will really pop then. Like your Sa said, its nice to be more adventurous when doing an SO. I dont have any experience with sombrero leather but am a fan of swift, colors are great in this leather. Last round of SO my store did allow swift selliers as well, personally i love the look of a "soft" sellier maybe thats something to keep in mind and maybe ask your store if thats possible if you will like to have more color choices.
 
I'm more into lurking these days but will pipe in with some thoughts as I'm a smooth leathers fan as well.

A sellier K is a pretty special thing to SO as they are hard to find in production and rarely in Sombrero, more often Epsom. And you don't have a small Kelly, so K28 sellier fills a nice gap. Bleu Obscur would be really gorgeous - what you need to find out is what your store will let you order as lining. With a contrast stitch (I would use a slightly less warm pink than RJ, or a bright blue) it will be a unique bag that's clearly an SO. I just personally love the look of a sellier with a contrast stitch, take a look at some of the bags on the forum!
You can take the thread samples from the SO trunk and get a good idea of what they will look like on the leather, this will help you choose.
Personally I'd choose PHW on that combo, shiny because the leather is quite matte, but you should choose what you love.
My last SO was K28 sellier also - I did noir chèvre with Bleu Saphir lining and Cobalt contrast stitching.

Bamboo is a great color, but a bright B30 isn't that hard to find whereas a sellier K is. Of course the rumor is that they take longer too!

THANK YOU so much for taking the time to provide input! This is giving me reassurance that a K is the way to go and I love your thoughts about thread possibilities. Besides, anything I would wear a bamboo B with (at least in my wardrobe) would also go with my barenia B. I've never had a black bag in my life and the bleu obscur will meet that need with a special "kick."

Congrats on your SO!

Agree with QF that a sellier 28 sounds great for your collection. . If you go with blue obscure i will suggest a lighter blue stitching. The sellier contours will really pop then. Like your Sa said, its nice to be more adventurous when doing an SO. I dont have any experience with sombrero leather but am a fan of swift, colors are great in this leather. Last round of SO my store did allow swift selliers as well, personally i love the look of a "soft" sellier maybe thats something to keep in mind and maybe ask your store if thats possible if you will like to have more color choices.

Thanks for the tips!! I will definitely pull some light blue threads and check about a swift sellier. When I asked over the phone, SA said selliers only in epsom, chèvre and sombrero but maybe he doesn't know about swift.
 
THANK YOU so much for taking the time to provide input! This is giving me reassurance that a K is the way to go and I love your thoughts about thread possibilities. Besides, anything I would wear a bamboo B with (at least in my wardrobe) would also go with my barenia B. I've never had a black bag in my life and the bleu obscur will meet that need with a special "kick."



Thanks for the tips!! I will definitely pull some light blue threads and check about a swift sellier. When I asked over the phone, SA said selliers only in epsom, chèvre and sombrero but maybe he doesn't know about swift.

You are welcome, cant wait to hear what you decide. Last april i SO-ed a sellier in togo and my SA mentioned swift is available too.... but erm having said that it still has not arrived haha.

Edit: forgot to add i think brushed phw will look really cool if you go woth blue obscur
 
THANK YOU so much for taking the time to provide input! This is giving me reassurance that a K is the way to go and I love your thoughts about thread possibilities. Besides, anything I would wear a bamboo B with (at least in my wardrobe) would also go with my barenia B. I've never had a black bag in my life and the bleu obscur will meet that need with a special "kick."



Thanks for the tips!! I will definitely pull some light blue threads and check about a swift sellier. When I asked over the phone, SA said selliers only in epsom, chèvre and sombrero but maybe he doesn't know about swift.
You can order sellier in almost any leather (I just had a sellier Togo arrive...after two years....) including swift, BUT many stores do not know this or else have elected to keep their SOs less complicated, perhaps because they are worried about Paris rejecting SOs. I LOVE swift but am unsure how it would look with contrast stitch in a sellier - you need a certain rigidity for that to look its best IMO.
 
BUT many stores do not know this or else have elected to keep their SOs less complicated, perhaps because they are worried about Paris rejecting SOs. I LOVE swift but am unsure how it would look with contrast stitch in a sellier - you need a certain rigidity for that to look its best IMO.

I think this may be true...after the store said no to a B in sombrero I was also considering the Constance. My SA basically told me not to order a Constance because who knows when the bag will arrive. They have had issues apparently. I got the distinct feeling that they are trying to steer me toward something else. Even mentioned bolide, Lindy, jypsiere or a Kelly cut as other options. Made me wonder...

I honestly woke up at 2am the past two nights thinking about sombrero selliers and I have an emotional reaction when I've seen photos so I think that's where I'm headed. Assuming I get to do a contrast stitch and fun lining. [emoji4]
 
I think this may be true...after the store said no to a B in sombrero I was also considering the Constance. My SA basically told me not to order a Constance because who knows when the bag will arrive. They have had issues apparently. I got the distinct feeling that they are trying to steer me toward something else. Even mentioned bolide, Lindy, jypsiere or a Kelly cut as other options. Made me wonder...

I honestly woke up at 2am the past two nights thinking about sombrero selliers and I have an emotional reaction when I've seen photos so I think that's where I'm headed. Assuming I get to do a contrast stitch and fun lining. [emoji4]

Do it :) Funnily enough I was looking at the SO list a few days ago and had the same thought about bleu obscur sombrero. Definitely the most classic leather available for a normal SO.
 
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