Hermes Special Order Bags

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Since this thread is now huge and the internal links to frequently asked questions no longer work, here is a brief FAQ for newcomers to the Hermes Special Order process.

What are the current choices for "a la carte" Special Order bags?
Current color charts Page 1529 Post 22,934 February 16, 2025
Most Recently Known Selection Definitions (bag types, sizes, combos) Sept 4, 2021 - Probably out of date
Thread Choices for stitching. - Probably out of date
Lucky Symbols for stamping.


What is an Hermes Special Order?
Each year Hermes gives select clients the opportunity to customize a classic bag in a made-to-order a la carte process. This thread is only for bag A La Carte orders (please use the separate threads for watch SOs and shoe SOs). "A la carte", "SO" (special order), and "HSS" (horse shoe stamp) are used interchangeably on this forum.

When is the Special Order season?
Currently, there is one SO season each calendar year, opening around the middle of February and closing when slots run out or the end of December, whichever occurs first. New SO menus are typically leaked in February and remain constant until the following calendar year. Individual stores have complete discretion on when, within this window, they offer SO appointments to their clients.

Which specs can I customize?
Hermes defines which specs can be customized and these specs can change each SO season. Generally these specs include: leather type, leather color, and hardware color. At your SO appointment, your SA will present you will the limited menu of choices including bag types and sizes (Birkin 25, Kelly 28, etc), pre-set combination designs (line, verso, multico, etc), leather choices, leather colors, hardwares, and a map for which options can be selected for which bag type and size. Not all leathers and hardwares are allowed for all bag types and sizes.

Can I make physical changes to a bag definition during SO?
Sometimes clients would like to change a physical aspect of a bag, like increase the handle drop or add a pocket or a strap. Unfortunately, Hermes does not allow any type of alteration to the bag definition during SO. For extensive changes like these, a client would need to pursue a “Horizon order” which can be read about here.

How long will my SO take?
There is no way to predict how long a SO will take from placing the order to receipt of the finished product. Although Hermes has recently put forward efforts to fulfill a la carte orders within a year, it isn’t uncommon for bags to arrive in just a few months or also much longer than the year estimate.

Can my SA give me status my existing SO?
Unfortunately, the info that can be seen by SAs at the local store is very limited. They can generally see if the order is still outstanding (ie hasn’t been cancelled) but do not get status updates beyond that. Some stores will update clients when they get notice that a bag has been shipped from Paris but other stores wait until the bag is physically in store before alerting the client.

Do I need to place a deposit for SO?
In most regions of the world, a deposit is not required for SOs. However, some Asian and Middle Eastern locations do seem to request at least a partial deposit. Deposits may also be required in other regions if the SO selections are very personalized (ie if you have your personal initials hot stamped onto the bag) such that selling the bag to a different client, if the original client declines the bag, would be difficult.

Do I receive confirmation of my SO after placing my order?
In most regions of the world, the client gives their specifications to their SA and that is the last they hear about it until the bag arrives. Paris stores seem to be an exception to this and send the client a confirmation email within a few weeks of placing the order.

Is there a premium for a SO bag?
No, there is no premium price for SO bags. Their price is the same as any other standard stock bag of the same specifications at the time of delivery.

Is my SO a quota bag?
SO bags are generally counted toward a client’s two-bags-per-year limit at the time that the bag is received and paid for. If a client has already maxed out their quota bag allocation for the year, some stores will allow an exception to purchase your SO as a third bag for the year while other stores will require the customer to wait until a new calendar year before receiving the bag. These policies are subject to be changed per store at their convenience so it is always wise to check with your specific SA.

Where can I get ideas for my SO bag?
This thread shows unique combination bags and this thread shows contrasting stitching bags. Please consider posting your bag there once it arrives!

Where can I see historical SO menus?
2024 on post 21,296 page 1420 Feb 7, 2024
2023 on post 19,874 page 1325 Feb 3, 2023
2022 on post 17,729 page 1182 Sept 13, 2021
2021 on post 15,439 page 1030 Aug 16, 2020
2020 on post 13,222 page 882 Aug 8, 2019
2019 on post 10,472 page 699 Sept 10, 2018
2018 on post 7,687 page 513 Sept 15, 2017
2017 on post 4,749 page 317 Sept 26, 2016
 
Hi Yodaling1. :wave:
I'm in Australia but my SO chart was the same as the one on page 246 of the "Hermes Special Orders - how long did yours take?" thread. As I chose chevre, I had to choose both the exterior and interior colours from the chevre list - which was very limited!
Hope that helps.

Congrats on your order! The color combo sounds gorgeous. So, if you get chevre, you cannot choose the interior color from the longer lining list, only from the chevre list? That's really limiting! I probably won't be ordering chevre then.
 
My RAC from Spring 2014 also just came in a month ago but the one from 2013 is still "in the system"....And I was sure neither was EVER coming. Now I'm hoping the one from 2013 doesn't show up too soon...
Hello Friend!! Nice to see you here and this give me hope. My SA is doing a search now on a SO that somehow has not showed up from 2014. I am not cut out for this SO thing. Too worrisome.
 
Congrats on your order! The color combo sounds gorgeous. So, if you get chevre, you cannot choose the interior color from the longer lining list, only from the chevre list? That's really limiting! I probably won't be ordering chevre then.
That's definitely not how it works in the US. The interior options are available regardless of what leather and color u chose for exterior... exterior options are independent of interior options.
 
Hello Friend!! Nice to see you here and this give me hope. My SA is doing a search now on a SO that somehow has not showed up from 2014. I am not cut out for this SO thing. Too worrisome.

Hello my dear. It has been a while. Let me know when you are in these parts. We must meet.

And yes. I hear you on this SO thing. The only way to stay sane is to assume it's never coming and then it's a pleasant surprise when it does. Or, you just don't want it any more.... and that's happened a couple of times to me. One because H messed up and did Contrast piping when I did not ask for that and once because I ordered something in a rush just because I could and I didn't love it when it was done. I am sure that will not be the case for you. You have exquisite taste.
 
A SO can be so difficult because of all the rules and limitations! Now that I got the colors, the size comes into factor! [emoji36]

I've never tried on a K28, but I'm quite tall at 5'10. I've always just tried on K32s and they are a good size for me.

I hear what everyone is saying about chèvre with K28 in bleu Indigo + bleu paon. I think it will be beautiful, but I think the bag is going to end up too small on me, esp if I do a retourne with the piping.

... piping with retourne only
... chèvre can't do K32
... evercolor doesn't have dark blue (only sapphire)
... bleu unit is a bit too dark (too much like black )

Ahhhhh!!!! What should I do!!?? [emoji29]

You can order a K32 in chèvre, just not a 35.

Congrats on your order! The color combo sounds gorgeous. So, if you get chevre, you cannot choose the interior color from the longer lining list, only from the chevre list? That's really limiting! I probably won't be ordering chevre then.

That's definitely not how it works in the US. The interior options are available regardless of what leather and color u chose for exterior... exterior options are independent of interior options.

IF is right. The standard interior is either chèvre or agneau (lamb) depending on the bag. For Bs and Ks it is chèvre. But this is a slightly different skin from what is used for exteriors, so a different set of color options. H DOES run out of interior chèvre in a specific color, it has happened to me, so this may be the issue here. H will not line a chevre bag with, say, Togo, whereas you CAN have a Togo lining in a Togo bag. I would say "Make sense?" but it is Hermès, so it does not really make much sense!
 
You can order a K32 in chèvre, just not a 35.





IF is right. The standard interior is either chèvre or agneau (lamb) depending on the bag. For Bs and Ks it is chèvre. But this is a slightly different skin from what is used for exteriors, so a different set of color options. H DOES run out of interior chèvre in a specific color, it has happened to me, so this may be the issue here. H will not line a chevre bag with, say, Togo, whereas you CAN have a Togo lining in a Togo bag. I would say "Make sense?" but it is Hermès, so it does not really make much sense!

I wonder if that's what's happening... originally, I asked my SA for K32 in Swift Bleu Indigo and interior Swift Anemone (not knowing that the usual interior lining is in chèvre). It's been about a week and she didn't seem to think there's a limitation and hasn't told me there's any problem submitting the order.

After all the discussion here, I'm still trying to come up with another combination in case/ when the order does get rejected!! [emoji21]
 
I wonder if that's what's happening... originally, I asked my SA for K32 in Swift Bleu Indigo and interior Swift Anemone (not knowing that the usual interior lining is in chèvre). It's been about a week and she didn't seem to think there's a limitation and hasn't told me there's any problem submitting the order.

After all the discussion here, I'm still trying to come up with another combination in case/ when the order does get rejected!! [emoji21]
My Swift Toolbox is lined in Swift, so it's entirely possible. I have a Togo/Togo SO on order and it was actually the Paris SM's suggestion. Not that it has shown up yet :p
 
That's definitely not how it works in the US. The interior options are available regardless of what leather and color u chose for exterior... exterior options are independent of interior options.

You can order a K32 in chèvre, just not a 35.




IF is right. The standard interior is either chèvre or agneau (lamb) depending on the bag. For Bs and Ks it is chèvre. But this is a slightly different skin from what is used for exteriors, so a different set of color options. H DOES run out of interior chèvre in a specific color, it has happened to me, so this may be the issue here. H will not line a chevre bag with, say, Togo, whereas you CAN have a Togo lining in a Togo bag. I would say "Make sense?" but it is Hermès, so it does not really make much sense!

Thank you for the info! This is very helpfull!!
 
So for this season's SO, you can obviously order interior from what is offered for chèvre, plus any additional colours. Is there a list for the additional chèvre interior colours or do you pick any colour and Paris to decide yay or nay?
 
I wonder if that's what's happening... originally, I asked my SA for K32 in Swift Bleu Indigo and interior Swift Anemone (not knowing that the usual interior lining is in chèvre). It's been about a week and she didn't seem to think there's a limitation and hasn't told me there's any problem submitting the order.

After all the discussion here, I'm still trying to come up with another combination in case/ when the order does get rejected!! [emoji21]
Swift may have a different set of rules, I never thought about it before but my swift kelly, lindy and birkin are lined in swift. This is worth questioning for those placing an SO with swift.
 
So for this season's SO, you can obviously order interior from what is offered for chèvre, plus any additional colours. Is there a list for the additional chèvre interior colours or do you pick any colour and Paris to decide yay or nay?

No, there is a specific list for lining as opposed to exterior. You can't just order lining from exterior options. Take a look at the order form that was posted...it is a little different from the form I saw but the interior and thread specs are the same.

Swift may have a different set of rules, I never thought about it before but my swift kelly, lindy and birkin are lined in swift. This is worth questioning for those placing an SO with swift.

Agreed.....It wouldn't make sense to me to line swift with chevre as swift is softer. Lamb maybe, but same as yours, my swift bags have been lined in swift.
 
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