Hermes Special Order Bags

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Since this thread is now huge and the internal links to frequently asked questions no longer work, here is a brief FAQ for newcomers to the Hermes Special Order process.

What are the current choices for "a la carte" Special Order bags?
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What is an Hermes Special Order?
Each year Hermes gives select clients the opportunity to customize a classic bag in a made-to-order a la carte process. This thread is only for bag A La Carte orders (please use the separate threads for watch SOs and shoe SOs). "A la carte", "SO" (special order), and "HSS" (horse shoe stamp) are used interchangeably on this forum.

When is the Special Order season?
Currently, there is one SO season each calendar year, opening around the middle of February and closing when slots run out or the end of December, whichever occurs first. New SO menus are typically leaked in February and remain constant until the following calendar year. Individual stores have complete discretion on when, within this window, they offer SO appointments to their clients.

Which specs can I customize?
Hermes defines which specs can be customized and these specs can change each SO season. Generally these specs include: leather type, leather color, and hardware color. At your SO appointment, your SA will present you will the limited menu of choices including bag types and sizes (Birkin 25, Kelly 28, etc), pre-set combination designs (line, verso, multico, etc), leather choices, leather colors, hardwares, and a map for which options can be selected for which bag type and size. Not all leathers and hardwares are allowed for all bag types and sizes.

Can I make physical changes to a bag definition during SO?
Sometimes clients would like to change a physical aspect of a bag, like increase the handle drop or add a pocket or a strap. Unfortunately, Hermes does not allow any type of alteration to the bag definition during SO. For extensive changes like these, a client would need to pursue a “Horizon order” which can be read about here.

How long will my SO take?
There is no way to predict how long a SO will take from placing the order to receipt of the finished product. Although Hermes has recently put forward efforts to fulfill a la carte orders within a year, it isn’t uncommon for bags to arrive in just a few months or also much longer than the year estimate.

Can my SA give me status my existing SO?
Unfortunately, the info that can be seen by SAs at the local store is very limited. They can generally see if the order is still outstanding (ie hasn’t been cancelled) but do not get status updates beyond that. Some stores will update clients when they get notice that a bag has been shipped from Paris but other stores wait until the bag is physically in store before alerting the client.

Do I need to place a deposit for SO?
In most regions of the world, a deposit is not required for SOs. However, some Asian and Middle Eastern locations do seem to request at least a partial deposit. Deposits may also be required in other regions if the SO selections are very personalized (ie if you have your personal initials hot stamped onto the bag) such that selling the bag to a different client, if the original client declines the bag, would be difficult.

Do I receive confirmation of my SO after placing my order?
In most regions of the world, the client gives their specifications to their SA and that is the last they hear about it until the bag arrives. Paris stores seem to be an exception to this and send the client a confirmation email within a few weeks of placing the order.

Is there a premium for a SO bag?
No, there is no premium price for SO bags. Their price is the same as any other standard stock bag of the same specifications at the time of delivery.

Is my SO a quota bag?
SO bags are generally counted toward a client’s two-bags-per-year limit at the time that the bag is received and paid for. If a client has already maxed out their quota bag allocation for the year, some stores will allow an exception to purchase your SO as a third bag for the year while other stores will require the customer to wait until a new calendar year before receiving the bag. These policies are subject to be changed per store at their convenience so it is always wise to check with your specific SA.

Where can I get ideas for my SO bag?
This thread shows unique combination bags and this thread shows contrasting stitching bags. Please consider posting your bag there once it arrives!

Where can I see historical SO menus?
2024 on post 21,296 page 1420 Feb 7, 2024
2023 on post 19,874 page 1325 Feb 3, 2023
2022 on post 17,729 page 1182 Sept 13, 2021
2021 on post 15,439 page 1030 Aug 16, 2020
2020 on post 13,222 page 882 Aug 8, 2019
2019 on post 10,472 page 699 Sept 10, 2018
2018 on post 7,687 page 513 Sept 15, 2017
2017 on post 4,749 page 317 Sept 26, 2016
 
I think one of the reasons could be that they might for example color leather/types of leather in a batch, so let's say they make all orders in rose tyrien epsom at the same time, and then (next week or month) they coloring black chevre and so on. They're likely not coloring and preparing leather for only one bag/order at the time so you will probably have to wait until the next time they will prepare the leather/color combo you ordered until they actually make your bag and send it out to the boutique. Therefore someone who placed an order much later than you could receive their bag after a shorter wait. If you're lucky your SO will show up very fast. Of course the supply and demand in general has an effect on this too... :) I guess there's some kind of logic - H logic! ;)


There could also be standards around what design they make; this month kellys, and that month constance and picotins, and so on above the other logistics...
 
I think one of the reasons could be that they might for example color leather/types of leather in a batch, so let's say they make all orders in rose tyrien epsom at the same time, and then (next week or month) they coloring black chevre and so on. They're likely not coloring and preparing leather for only one bag/order at the time so you will probably have to wait until the next time they will prepare the leather/color combo you ordered until they actually make your bag and send it out to the boutique. Therefore someone who placed an order much later than you could receive their bag after a shorter wait. If you're lucky your SO will show up very fast. Of course the supply and demand in general has an effect on this too... :) I guess there's some kind of logic - H logic! ;)

Spoke with the store again. When I asked if h had ever just not filled SO orders without giving a cancellation and was told yes. None of last november SOs have arrived so I think this is a very disheartening sign. They were kind enough to go check their stock but no 28 Kelly did they have. I think the store will try to help however many of us placed orders at that time which is better than just saying Sorreeee. I have seen Gris t birkins in chevre revealed so I do not think leather is dyed after an order is submitted. They have it on hand which is why an order may get changed when they run out of the type and color of leather.
 
Spoke with the store again. When I asked if h had ever just not filled SO orders without giving a cancellation and was told yes. None of last november SOs have arrived so I think this is a very disheartening sign. They were kind enough to go check their stock but no 28 Kelly did they have. I think the store will try to help however many of us placed orders at that time which is better than just saying Sorreeee. I have seen Gris t birkins in chevre revealed so I do not think leather is dyed after an order is submitted. They have it on hand which is why an order may get changed when they run out of the type and color of leather.


Hm.. Yes, I'm sure there's a lot of "logic" and H logistics that we are not aware of too that matters in this subject. I'm sorry that you have to wait so long :( I wait for two bags too to arrive, PO though. One of them were placed 1,5 years ago and I have been told several times that H is way after in demand/supply and deliver will be slow... I guess that's apply to all orders :(
 
I was just notified that Rasin is no longer available in Chevre this SO. So I now need to change my order again! This bag was not meant to be. I will go back to my store and start again! Has anyone else heard this?
 
My understanding is that the tanneries prepare a certain amount of colors/leathers, in different sizes of skins, which is estimated by the studio in advance of demand. Especially in the case of SO-only bag leathers (like exterior chèvre) there is a finite amount of bag-size skins. If more, say, Bleu Saphir chèvre bags are ordered than # of large skins available, someone's SOs will get bumped to next production/the next time these skins come in.
The same applies to non-production/rested/very popular colors.
There are also issues that come up, if an entire dye lot goes wrong and skins are unusable for bags - maybe SLGs can be made but again, the production of bags in that color/leather is slowed. I was told this happened with Rouge H in some leather one year.
 
I hope your sellier comes in the 8 months time frame quoted by your SA. But if it does I will be kicking myself for not picking Togo! I'm not a fan of Epsom for bags (love it for wallets though!) but picked it because I was so anxious to have my first sellier. If offered an order Again I will definitely order a Togo Kelly sellier. I'm dreaming of black Togo sellier with rouge H interior. So divine!
 
Me too! Now I am wondering if my SO is going to show up in 2020 since it was sellier Togo! My SA said probably not more than eight months, so I hope he's right :p

When did you order yours? I ordered mine back in May or maybe early June? My SA said my bag will most likely be here spring 2016.. Which would make the wait time about a year. My memory is a bit blurry because there were so many things going on around that time frame..
 
When did you order yours? I ordered mine back in May or maybe early June? My SA said my bag will most likely be here spring 2016.. Which would make the wait time about a year. My memory is a bit blurry because there were so many things going on around that time frame..
I ordered mine in Paris in late April, then made changes in early May.

I, um, ordered black Togo sellier with Rouge H interior :p So if it ever shows up you can get a preview!!
 
My understanding is that the tanneries prepare a certain amount of colors/leathers, in different sizes of skins, which is estimated by the studio in advance of demand. Especially in the case of SO-only bag leathers (like exterior chèvre) there is a finite amount of bag-size skins. If more, say, Bleu Saphir chèvre bags are ordered than # of large skins available, someone's SOs will get bumped to next production/the next time these skins come in.
The same applies to non-production/rested/very popular colors.
There are also issues that come up, if an entire dye lot goes wrong and skins are unusable for bags - maybe SLGs can be made but again, the production of bags in that color/leather is slowed. I was told this happened with Rouge H in some leather one year.

While this makes sense in the grand scheme, what does not make sense is seeing reveals of larger bags arrive in 6 months that were of the same leather and color as this SO for a Kelly 28.. That takes off the table having to wait for a larger piece of leather and or a new batch of color to arrive. The only Kelly smaller than the 28 is a 25 so of course a small skin can be used to make a 28 versus a 30 birkin and one of the larger pieces.. Everyone is guessing what, if any, reason would account for this one missing bag when in fact the entire November order from this one boutique has never shown up. They ran out of all skins in all colors? Talk about black holes in the universe; there is certainly one if not more at Hermes.
 
Omg! No freaking way! Hahaha um.. If you change your mind when it arrives holla at this girl! 😍😍 now I'm super excited for your SO! Size 28?

I ordered a 32 because I currently don't have one and I thought the extra room might be practical. But next order will be another 28 or a B30 - I am loving the smaller bags :D

While this makes sense in the grand scheme, what does not make sense is seeing reveals of larger bags arrive in 6 months that were of the same leather and color as this SO for a Kelly 28.. That takes off the table having to wait for a larger piece of leather and or a new batch of color to arrive. The only Kelly smaller than the 28 is a 25 so of course a small skin can be used to make a 28 versus a 30 birkin and one of the larger pieces.. Everyone is guessing what, if any, reason would account for this one missing bag when in fact the entire November order from this one boutique has never shown up. They ran out of all skins in all colors? Talk about black holes in the universe; there is certainly one if not more at Hermes.

jmen, this wasn't germane to your issue, I know. I'm sorry you're having this issue and I hope someone finds an answer to your missing bag.
 
I was just notified that Rasin is no longer available in Chevre this SO. So I now need to change my order again! This bag was not meant to be. I will go back to my store and start again! Has anyone else heard this?
Yes...chèvre seems to be in short supply this year, and in all the colors we love (raisin, rouge H, etc.) too!! I really wish there were another leather option that has some structure and is durable, and is not Togo or Epsom.
 
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