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Since this thread is now huge and the internal links to frequently asked questions no longer work, here is a brief FAQ for newcomers to the Hermes Special Order process.

What are the current choices for "a la carte" Special Order bags?
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What is an Hermes Special Order?
Each year Hermes gives select clients the opportunity to customize a classic bag in a made-to-order a la carte process. This thread is only for bag A La Carte orders (please use the separate threads for watch SOs and shoe SOs). "A la carte", "SO" (special order), and "HSS" (horse shoe stamp) are used interchangeably on this forum.

When is the Special Order season?
Currently, there is one SO season each calendar year, opening around the middle of February and closing when slots run out or the end of December, whichever occurs first. New SO menus are typically leaked in February and remain constant until the following calendar year. Individual stores have complete discretion on when, within this window, they offer SO appointments to their clients.

Which specs can I customize?
Hermes defines which specs can be customized and these specs can change each SO season. Generally these specs include: leather type, leather color, and hardware color. At your SO appointment, your SA will present you will the limited menu of choices including bag types and sizes (Birkin 25, Kelly 28, etc), pre-set combination designs (line, verso, multico, etc), leather choices, leather colors, hardwares, and a map for which options can be selected for which bag type and size. Not all leathers and hardwares are allowed for all bag types and sizes.

Can I make physical changes to a bag definition during SO?
Sometimes clients would like to change a physical aspect of a bag, like increase the handle drop or add a pocket or a strap. Unfortunately, Hermes does not allow any type of alteration to the bag definition during SO. For extensive changes like these, a client would need to pursue a “Horizon order” which can be read about here.

How long will my SO take?
There is no way to predict how long a SO will take from placing the order to receipt of the finished product. Although Hermes has recently put forward efforts to fulfill a la carte orders within a year, it isn’t uncommon for bags to arrive in just a few months or also much longer than the year estimate.

Can my SA give me status my existing SO?
Unfortunately, the info that can be seen by SAs at the local store is very limited. They can generally see if the order is still outstanding (ie hasn’t been cancelled) but do not get status updates beyond that. Some stores will update clients when they get notice that a bag has been shipped from Paris but other stores wait until the bag is physically in store before alerting the client.

Do I need to place a deposit for SO?
In most regions of the world, a deposit is not required for SOs. However, some Asian and Middle Eastern locations do seem to request at least a partial deposit. Deposits may also be required in other regions if the SO selections are very personalized (ie if you have your personal initials hot stamped onto the bag) such that selling the bag to a different client, if the original client declines the bag, would be difficult.

Do I receive confirmation of my SO after placing my order?
In most regions of the world, the client gives their specifications to their SA and that is the last they hear about it until the bag arrives. Paris stores seem to be an exception to this and send the client a confirmation email within a few weeks of placing the order.

Is there a premium for a SO bag?
No, there is no premium price for SO bags. Their price is the same as any other standard stock bag of the same specifications at the time of delivery.

Is my SO a quota bag?
SO bags are generally counted toward a client’s two-bags-per-year limit at the time that the bag is received and paid for. If a client has already maxed out their quota bag allocation for the year, some stores will allow an exception to purchase your SO as a third bag for the year while other stores will require the customer to wait until a new calendar year before receiving the bag. These policies are subject to be changed per store at their convenience so it is always wise to check with your specific SA.

Where can I get ideas for my SO bag?
This thread shows unique combination bags and this thread shows contrasting stitching bags. Please consider posting your bag there once it arrives!

Where can I see historical SO menus?
2024 on post 21,296 page 1420 Feb 7, 2024
2023 on post 19,874 page 1325 Feb 3, 2023
2022 on post 17,729 page 1182 Sept 13, 2021
2021 on post 15,439 page 1030 Aug 16, 2020
2020 on post 13,222 page 882 Aug 8, 2019
2019 on post 10,472 page 699 Sept 10, 2018
2018 on post 7,687 page 513 Sept 15, 2017
2017 on post 4,749 page 317 Sept 26, 2016
 
I've been sold a false dream.

My SA promised me an SO since the start of the year. I even compromised on a last QB in a color not on my wishlist, just to secure the specs I wanted with some tweaks in the SO. However, when I followed up with my SA today, I was taken back by the news that my SO appointment isn’t happening this year. He claimed he had informed me earlier that they were prioritizing some clients, but I explicitly remember him saying "SO appointments are not open yet, but you are definitely getting a slot" repeatedly over the past few months (ever since the colors dropped).

I'm feeling misled, upset and unsure about how to proceed. Has anyone else had a similar experience? Any suggestions on how to move forward would be appreciated.
This is really unfortunate and I'm sorry you are going through this. Unfortunately, SO slots have been open since late February so it should have been easy to see that he was fibbing/leading you on. It sounds like he has a different memory of the events as well. I guess you have two choices: if your priority is to eventually get that SO slot, my advice unfortunately is to just eat the disappointment and try again next February, maybe even with some lightly passively aggressive comments about how "since it didn't work out last year". Otherwise, if you feel you can't trust him or this relationship any longer, I would move stores and start over because this will probably keep happening and you won't know what to believe. Hopefully next year the colors will be better anyway!
 
This is really unfortunate and I'm sorry you are going through this. Unfortunately, SO slots have been open since late February so it should have been easy to see that he was fibbing/leading you on. It sounds like he has a different memory of the events as well. I guess you have two choices: if your priority is to eventually get that SO slot, my advice unfortunately is to just eat the disappointment and try again next February, maybe even with some lightly passively aggressive comments about how "since it didn't work out last year". Otherwise, if you feel you can't trust him or this relationship any longer, I would move stores and start over because this will probably keep happening and you won't know what to believe. Hopefully next year the colors will be better anyway!
Thanks for your response. I've already expressed my frustration to the SA, and he said he’ll get back to me tomorrow. If he confirm that there's no SO appointment for me this year, I'm considering reaching out to the SM to see if they can offer me a slot, would that be worth a try or should I just accept the outcome and move on?

Given that I'm relocating in a month, I'm worried about missing my chance.
 
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Thanks for your response. I've already expressed my frustration to the SA, and he said he’ll get back to me tomorrow. If he confirm that there's no SO appointment for me this year, I'm considering reaching out to the SM to see if they can offer me a slot, would that be worth a try or should I just accept the outcome and move on?

Given that I'm relocating in a month, I'm worried about missing my chance.
I just realized you’re the client whose SA is super shady and has you opening and spending on multiple accounts for random bags and then doesn’t follow through. I’ve been saying it for months but you really need to report this SA and move on. I’m not sure why you are still believing anything he says. I doubt the SM will give you a SO as they are likely all already divvied out but you could try. Regardless, you NEED to report this dude.
 
I've been sold a false dream.

My SA promised me an SO since the start of the year. I even compromised on a last QB in a color not on my wishlist, just to secure the specs I wanted with some tweaks in the SO. However, when I followed up with my SA today, I was taken back by the news that my SO appointment isn’t happening this year. He claimed he had informed me earlier that they were prioritizing some clients, but I explicitly remember him saying "SO appointments are not open yet, but you are definitely getting a slot" repeatedly over the past few months (ever since the colors dropped).

I'm feeling misled, upset and unsure about how to proceed. Has anyone else had a similar experience? Any suggestions on how to move forward would be appreciated.
My suggestion is not for the faint of heart, but if there was a promise, I would go talk to the manager. You can state you accepted a QB that wasn’t on your wishlist relying on the promise that you would have the SO slot this year, and that you wouldn’t have accepted the other QB if you weren’t going to get the SO slot.

I know that a lot of people are against it, but in my case talking to two managers in different occasions worked to my advantage. You can always be polite and explain how you felt.

In the case of my defective SO abroad, I am not sure who I spoke with because the store was changing managers and I could not find out who the manager was, but the person was very rude. However, it is in a country well known for having the worst and most entitled SAs, so…At the same time I learnt that my VVIP friend in another store had spent the equivalent in dollars of $300k and didn’t get two bags that were promised to her this year because the manager also changed in that store. The new manager came and said no, then she learnt one of the bags went to a reseller. We are definitely never stepping in the store again after the SO comes, and they won’t see a dime from me until then.

Of course see what works for you. I am the type that I don’t care if SA gets upset and whatnot, because I can just easily take my business elsewhere, I travel half a year every year. Some people have to stay in the same store, so it might not work for all.
 
Surprised with an SO offer for 2025. My first SO ever!

I have one #1 choice I'll probably go with below but just making sure there are not some other important factors I'm not aware of. Appreciate any advice/thoughts :)

Choice #1: Verso K25 retourne togo noir, lime yellow lining, brushed PHW
Reasons to do: waiting for the specs, lime interior is exciting, I know I will use it
Reasons not to do: I also like the idea of a normal black K25 especially the more practical noir interior, and this is not a super rare bag to come in as a regular offer.
I have never owned a K25 retourne togo before or even tried one on - are they heavy? How heavy are they compared to B25 togo?

Choice #2: Verso B25 retourne togo etain RGHW any lining maybe noir to be practical lol
Reasons to do: This was always a dream bag for me, Probably near impossible to come in as a regular offer
Reasons not to do: RGHW has risk of tarnishing and turning to regular GHW - would you say this is a serious deterrent?

Choice #3: (not sure if exotic SO is on offer but if it is) Verso MKII vert deau croc, PHW, framboise lining
Reasons to do: MKII are hard to get, and if I got one it'd be exotic; vert deau is on my wishlist and a smaller surface area would be less high maintenance than a bigger bag
Reasons not to do: not an everyday bag, exotics are much easier to get normally, (is this true for MKII though?)

Choice #4: some kind of cool-toned, futuristic combo of Swift K25 retourne - gris meyer or bleu zellige BPHW
Reaons to do: fits my wardrobe, I think swift is not as delicate as some believe and I like how the leather looks
Reasons not to do: I've never seen these colors on swift in a real life bag, some pictures of swift gris meyer online look like it has a yellow/brownish undertone....

EDIT (forgot about this possibility!)
Choice #5: MKII noir mysore PHW, lime interior
Saw some photos online of mysore bags that look like they are easily scuffed, so not sure about this - has this been you guys' experience?
I think mysore is easily stained based on personal experience of mysore linings, so black is probably the only color I'd consider.

Info about me that are factors:
- Generally not into bicolor bags but if they look more futuristic/cool-toned there are a few examples out there from other SO years I like. Not sure with 2025 selection if you guys can think of something I might like
- Generally not into mini kellies (always thought the effort:amount of leather ratio was not worth it lol) but if I did get one it would be exotic (lizard or croc/gator) because I don't like epsom or mysore
- I've found I use black-colored bags with less stress, not as worried about stains/scuffs. Constantly torn between collecting beautiful-looking bags in high maintenance leathers/colors and actually using them lol.
- I do not like epsom, sellier, or mysore. Swift is ok.
- My wardrobe/style is cool toned neutrals - black, gray, and white with pops of color usually blues of all shades, teal or yellow rarely other bold color pops. No browns/warm tones. That said, I do all metals: Silver toned HW probably slightly biased, but GHW and RGHW also have their place.
You have some lovely choices .. I have a K25 retourne in Togo and love it. It would look lovely in black and lime .. I always use an organizer inside so the lime would not bother me and would be a lovely pop of colour for you to look at inside.
 
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Trying to decide between doing MKII or K25 for SO.

Questioning whether MKII would be too small for me:
For reference, I have a mini roulis and chanel WOCs - I find the mini roulis capacity to be perfect for frequent use, but the chanel WOC is just a tad too thin/narrow to fit everything I need, not enough to get rid of the chanel WOCS but they don't get used as often.
Do you guys think I will regret a MKII? Really appreciate your thoughts :)
 
I've been sold a false dream.

My SA promised me an SO since the start of the year. I even compromised on a last QB in a color not on my wishlist, just to secure the specs I wanted with some tweaks in the SO. However, when I followed up with my SA today, I was taken back by the news that my SO appointment isn’t happening this year. He claimed he had informed me earlier that they were prioritizing some clients, but I explicitly remember him saying "SO appointments are not open yet, but you are definitely getting a slot" repeatedly over the past few months (ever since the colors dropped).

I'm feeling misled, upset and unsure about how to proceed. Has anyone else had a similar experience? Any suggestions on how to move forward would be appreciated.
I’m sorry you’re going through this I know the feeling and worry I’m having a similar experience. My SA told me last fall that I would get SO in spring. Then I bring it up in March, she said the slots were taken and to “remind” her in July/August for a Sept slot. Is that how this works?

Should I remind sooner than this?

I got my last QB in Jan so I assume this will fulfill a second bag, IF I get the offer. I’m also, like many here, considering a black B or K (still on the fence on which) and wondering if I should just settle for a regular offer and not chase the SO.

As a reference, I have (all size 25) K in Beton, then K and B in etoupe. So I feel like I “need” black to round this out. While I don’t carry any of them a ton just bc of the stage I’m in in life (my mini E is my go-to!), would you do a B or K at this point IF I even get the offer. While I find a mini K so cute I worry it’s too small. I’m in a city and don’t hand carry bags much.

Anyways I hope it works out for all of us looking for this opportunity!
 
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I’m sorry you’re going through this I know the feeling and worry I’m having a similar experience. My SA told me last fall that I would get SO in spring. Then I bring it up in March, she said the slots were taken and to “remind” her in July/August for a Sept slot. Is that how this works?

Should I remind sooner than this?

I got my last QB in Jan so I assume this will fulfill a second bag, IF I get the offer. I’m also, like many here, considering a black B or K (still on the fence on which) and wondering if I should just settle for a regular offer and not chase the SO.

As a reference, I have (all size 25) K in Beton, then K and B in etoupe. So I feel like I “need” black to round this out. While I don’t carry any of them a ton just bc of the stage I’m in in life (my mini E is my go-to!), would you do a B or K at this point IF I even get the offer. While I find a mini K so cute I worry it’s too small. I’m in a city and don’t hand carry bags much.

Anyways I hope it works out for all of us looking for this opportunity!
IMHO and experience, there's no need to remind SAs of anything, SOs, bags, etc. if you have a steady long-term relationship. If you don't, then the only way to "remind" them is to visit+spend.
 
Trying to decide between doing MKII or K25 for SO.

Questioning whether MKII would be too small for me:
For reference, I have a mini roulis and chanel WOCs - I find the mini roulis capacity to be perfect for frequent use, but the chanel WOC is just a tad too thin/narrow to fit everything I need, not enough to get rid of the chanel WOCS but they don't get used as often.
Do you guys think I will regret a MKII? Really appreciate your thoughts :)
Personally, I think K25 is perfect for an SO. Slightly bigger so more practical for day use but small enough that it can be a special occasion bag. If you're not using your WOCs, why do you think you'd like a MKII?
 
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Personally, I think K25 is perfect for an SO. Slightly bigger so more practical for day use but small enough that it can be a special occasion bag. If you're not using your WOCs, why do you think you'd like a MKII?
Haha it’s mostly FOMO like here’s a chance to get “any bag” on the menu. I am a relative minimalist, so there is a chance it could be the perfect bag if it fits slightly more than a C WOC but its a gamble 😆

Edit: tried looking online for a size comparison between C Woc and MKII and couldn’t find but sounds like it might be similar

Edit 2: about the C Woc, despite being slightly less than the perfect size I’m still open to collecting more if the right design came along. So I think MKII would probably be in the same ballpark/kind of deal for me it’s just the “cost” of MKII doesn’t lend itself to casual collecting haha
 
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Haha it’s mostly FOMO like here’s a chance to get “any bag” on the menu. I am a relative minimalist, so there is a chance it could be the perfect bag if it fits slightly more than a C WOC but its a gamble 😆

Edit: tried looking online for a size comparison between C Woc and MKII but couldn’t find but sounds like it might be similar
I totally get why so many choose MKII for their SO. It's a special little treasure but you've brought up how "useful" your Roulis and WOCs are so that seems to be your focus.
I haven't had an MKII but I have 2 WOCs (and a Kelly Pochette) and I can at least fit a phone in them. I've heard that's not possible with a MKII
 
I am cross-posting here as well. (The original post is in: https://forum.purseblog.com/threads/share-your-recent-bag-offers-thread.1057915/post-36356488).

I ordered mine (it is actually for my family member) in mid- or late March 2024. It was Kelly 25 Sellier and I did it in Ostrich with the colors, parchemin and cognac. I selected gold hardware.

I am in the US-based, and the price before taxes was $25,500, and $27,763.18 after taxes. I hope this is useful. :)




This is the simulated version at the time I placed the SO:

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The pictures below are what I actually got:

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Perfection! I'm biased because my 2 Ostrich bags are in Parchemin and Cognac. Congratulations on an absolutely stunning combo!
 
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Haha it’s mostly FOMO like here’s a chance to get “any bag” on the menu. I am a relative minimalist, so there is a chance it could be the perfect bag if it fits slightly more than a C WOC but its a gamble 😆

Edit: tried looking online for a size comparison between C Woc and MKII and couldn’t find but sounds like it might be similar

Edit 2: about the C Woc, despite being slightly less than the perfect size I’m still open to collecting more if the right design came along. So I think MKII would probably be in the same ballpark/kind of deal for me it’s just the “cost” of MKII doesn’t lend itself to casual collecting haha
I can throw in some opinions!!! I have a MK- a SO (2024)…I locked in on the MK years ago- and then the colour I had always dreamed of was available in SO 2024 (Vert Jade). I love VJ, but I don’t think I would have wanted it on a K25…the MK is a statement piece. Practicality-wise- I can fit my iPhone mini, reading glasses (a must)- credit cards, lipstick, slim line concealer- and off I go! I had a Chanel WOC and got rid of it because I couldn’t fit my glasses and phone….the shape (base width) of the MK makes it possible to fit glasses….and the MK is a bolder flex to be honest😉
My next wish IS for a K25….i just always dreamed of a jade MK, so I just had to do that one first!!! I LOVE CARRYING MY MK!!!! Hope these thoughts help your decision process!!!!
 
Haha it’s mostly FOMO like here’s a chance to get “any bag” on the menu. I am a relative minimalist, so there is a chance it could be the perfect bag if it fits slightly more than a C WOC but its a gamble 😆

Edit: tried looking online for a size comparison between C Woc and MKII and couldn’t find but sounds like it might be similar

Edit 2: about the C Woc, despite being slightly less than the perfect size I’m still open to collecting more if the right design came along. So I think MKII would probably be in the same ballpark/kind of deal for me it’s just the “cost” of MKII doesn’t lend itself to casual collecting haha

There is a wonderful article with many pictures on Purseblog by @Notorious Pink to show what fits inside a mini Kelly II, which may be helpful for you to visualize if a MKII suits your needs.


Mini bags are popular, therefore MKII is still quite competitive to get in some stores. Many SA advised their clients to get a mini Kelly II via SO because it is harder for them to offer it to their clients. While MKII is very cute, Kelly 25 is probably a more practical size for day-to-evening usage, based on my own experience. However, the benefit of getting a MKII via SO is that you can order it with a longer shoulder strap, which allows it to be worn crossbody.

Either way, you can’t go wrong with either size. They are both lovely.
 
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