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Since this thread is now huge and the internal links to frequently asked questions no longer work, here is a brief FAQ for newcomers to the Hermes Special Order process.

What are the current choices for "a la carte" Special Order bags?
Current color charts Page 1529 Post 22,934 February 16, 2025
Most Recently Known Selection Definitions (bag types, sizes, combos) Sept 4, 2021 - Probably out of date
Thread Choices for stitching. - Probably out of date
Lucky Symbols for stamping.


What is an Hermes Special Order?
Each year Hermes gives select clients the opportunity to customize a classic bag in a made-to-order a la carte process. This thread is only for bag A La Carte orders (please use the separate threads for watch SOs and shoe SOs). "A la carte", "SO" (special order), and "HSS" (horse shoe stamp) are used interchangeably on this forum.

When is the Special Order season?
Currently, there is one SO season each calendar year, opening around the middle of February and closing when slots run out or the end of December, whichever occurs first. New SO menus are typically leaked in February and remain constant until the following calendar year. Individual stores have complete discretion on when, within this window, they offer SO appointments to their clients.

Which specs can I customize?
Hermes defines which specs can be customized and these specs can change each SO season. Generally these specs include: leather type, leather color, and hardware color. At your SO appointment, your SA will present you will the limited menu of choices including bag types and sizes (Birkin 25, Kelly 28, etc), pre-set combination designs (line, verso, multico, etc), leather choices, leather colors, hardwares, and a map for which options can be selected for which bag type and size. Not all leathers and hardwares are allowed for all bag types and sizes.

Can I make physical changes to a bag definition during SO?
Sometimes clients would like to change a physical aspect of a bag, like increase the handle drop or add a pocket or a strap. Unfortunately, Hermes does not allow any type of alteration to the bag definition during SO. For extensive changes like these, a client would need to pursue a “Horizon order” which can be read about here.

How long will my SO take?
There is no way to predict how long a SO will take from placing the order to receipt of the finished product. Although Hermes has recently put forward efforts to fulfill a la carte orders within a year, it isn’t uncommon for bags to arrive in just a few months or also much longer than the year estimate.

Can my SA give me status my existing SO?
Unfortunately, the info that can be seen by SAs at the local store is very limited. They can generally see if the order is still outstanding (ie hasn’t been cancelled) but do not get status updates beyond that. Some stores will update clients when they get notice that a bag has been shipped from Paris but other stores wait until the bag is physically in store before alerting the client.

Do I need to place a deposit for SO?
In most regions of the world, a deposit is not required for SOs. However, some Asian and Middle Eastern locations do seem to request at least a partial deposit. Deposits may also be required in other regions if the SO selections are very personalized (ie if you have your personal initials hot stamped onto the bag) such that selling the bag to a different client, if the original client declines the bag, would be difficult.

Do I receive confirmation of my SO after placing my order?
In most regions of the world, the client gives their specifications to their SA and that is the last they hear about it until the bag arrives. Paris stores seem to be an exception to this and send the client a confirmation email within a few weeks of placing the order.

Is there a premium for a SO bag?
No, there is no premium price for SO bags. Their price is the same as any other standard stock bag of the same specifications at the time of delivery.

Is my SO a quota bag?
SO bags are generally counted toward a client’s two-bags-per-year limit at the time that the bag is received and paid for. If a client has already maxed out their quota bag allocation for the year, some stores will allow an exception to purchase your SO as a third bag for the year while other stores will require the customer to wait until a new calendar year before receiving the bag. These policies are subject to be changed per store at their convenience so it is always wise to check with your specific SA.

Where can I get ideas for my SO bag?
This thread shows unique combination bags and this thread shows contrasting stitching bags. Please consider posting your bag there once it arrives!

Where can I see historical SO menus?
2024 on post 21,296 page 1420 Feb 7, 2024
2023 on post 19,874 page 1325 Feb 3, 2023
2022 on post 17,729 page 1182 Sept 13, 2021
2021 on post 15,439 page 1030 Aug 16, 2020
2020 on post 13,222 page 882 Aug 8, 2019
2019 on post 10,472 page 699 Sept 10, 2018
2018 on post 7,687 page 513 Sept 15, 2017
2017 on post 4,749 page 317 Sept 26, 2016
 
Hello first time poster here. I have been offered to do my first SO I am extremely excited and nervous too as well it is a big derision (first world problems 😉). I wanted to ask if I may please, has anyone seen if Vert Cypress is available in Chèvre leather this year thank you. I’m considering going for a bicolour with Rose Mexico and VC if I can in a K25. I adore pink and I’m trying to think about my options before my appointment so I’m not there all day 😂 thank you 🙏

Congratulations!
If you scroll to the top of this ( or any page on this thread), just click on the link that accrowcounted thoughtfully provided in the sticky.
You will then see the available colors with the leathers they are offered in, the available bag styles, etc., You can peruse that to your hearts content before your appointment. Correlate the two- for instance, if you are set on a Kelly in togo, then you do not have the option of sellier. If you want a Plume, then you cannot do that in chevre. And no, there are no exceptions, no other options.
Have a wonderful time and choose something you will love and use, not what others tell you you should.
 
As additional information, my SA mentioned to me this past weekend that thread colors are now being limited on SOs. You can use either tonal or inverse to corelate with the leather(s) colors, but no more exterior, verso interior and a third contrast stitch color used.
I don't know what the default would be if you chose same color in and out ( as then you could always chose a contrast stitch).
Don't shoot the messenger- I'm just telling you what she told me. No agenda ( but a bit disappointed, as I love a subtle contrast between leather and stitch color). and could easily be wrong, or this may change again. She DID say this was not store specific.
Anyone going to an SO appointment ( or seeing their SA) perhaps you could confirm or deny this?
 
As additional information, my SA mentioned to me this past weekend that thread colors are now being limited on SOs. You can use either tonal or inverse to corelate with the leather(s) colors, but no more exterior, verso interior and a third contrast stitch color used.
I don't know what the default would be if you chose same color in and out ( as then you could always chose a contrast stitch).
Don't shoot the messenger- I'm just telling you what she told me. No agenda ( but a bit disappointed, as I love a subtle contrast between leather and stitch color). and could easily be wrong, or this may change again. She DID say this was not store specific.
Anyone going to an SO appointment ( or seeing their SA) perhaps you could confirm or deny this?
Hmmm I placed one recently (verso) and used a different color stitch from the exterior and interior colors. The order went through on their iPad app, and I haven't received any notification that it's been rejected or changed.
 
Congratulations!
If you scroll to the top of this ( or any page on this thread), just click on the link that accrowcounted thoughtfully provided in the sticky.
You will then see the available colors with the leathers they are offered in, the available bag styles, etc., You can peruse that to your hearts content before your appointment. Correlate the two- for instance, if you are set on a Kelly in togo, then you do not have the option of sellier. If you want a Plume, then you cannot do that in chevre. And no, there are no exceptions, no other options.
Have a wonderful time and choose something you will love and use, not what others tell you you should.
Thank you so much ☺️
 
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As additional information, my SA mentioned to me this past weekend that thread colors are now being limited on SOs. You can use either tonal or inverse to corelate with the leather(s) colors, but no more exterior, verso interior and a third contrast stitch color used.
I don't know what the default would be if you chose same color in and out ( as then you could always chose a contrast stitch).
Don't shoot the messenger- I'm just telling you what she told me. No agenda ( but a bit disappointed, as I love a subtle contrast between leather and stitch color). and could easily be wrong, or this may change again. She DID say this was not store specific.
Anyone going to an SO appointment ( or seeing their SA) perhaps you could confirm or deny this?
I just placed my SO Verso with a contrast stitch to match the hardware.
 
Hmmm I placed one recently (verso) and used a different color stitch from the exterior and interior colors. The order went through on their iPad app, and I haven't received any notification that it's been rejected or changed.

Exactly. It was possible for me too.

I just placed my SO Verso with a contrast stitch to match the hardware.
Congrats to all of you! I'm happy my SA had had the wrong info! I love a a bag with a subtle contrast stitch. Cannot wait to see all of yours.
 
Greetings,

I was recently scheduled for an a la carte (Special Order) appointment in a California boutique I will keep anonymous for now. The evening before my appointment I received a call from my SA telling me, it was being 'postponed' because of a new law voted into California? This was because of the dyes being used in the leathers, California has just passed a new law and until Hermes came to an understanding of how that affected them, a la Cart were being paused.

I was hearth broken of course, but what could I do? I kept my appointment hoping I could find another bag or something else. Because the SA also mentioned (in passing) that the boutique was supposed to offload their current merchandise for the year. I was hopeful. Sure enough, the following day, my SA then offered me a Kelly Maxi 42!! This was in the beginning of November and told me it was NOT going to be a quota bag because of the disappointment I faced, it "was a freebe".

I am beginning to wonder if this is true. I have not found anything regarding new laws that were passed about leathers or dyes in California. Has anyone heard anything about Special Orders or a La Cart's being put on hold in California?

Thanks in Advance for your insights.
 
Thanks for the mention @carrie8 and you are correct, there was a country wide pause to SO in September. However, the issue @DutchGirl007 is describing is something different and has been discussed on Reddit. A few CA shoppers there have heard the same story from their CA SAs that SO is off for now due to CA restrictions on something in the manufacturing process. Reddit speculated that SOs are chemically treated with an additional chemical that standard leather pieces are not treated with and that this additional chemical violates the new law. If I’m honest, this sounds incredibly far fetched to me (that SOs are sprayed with something) but that is what these clients are being told. It would be interesting to hear from CA shoppers if the general leather product supply is actively being refreshed or if the CA stores are not importing anything new regarding leather since the date that this new law has gone into effect and are simply selling through current in house supply, as OP here seems to indicate. (ie, CA shoppers, is there an increasing dearth of leather product in the stores?)
 
Dear All, as promised here an update on the HSS order I placed today. Eventually I went with a Kelly Dépêches Pochette 25 this time:
  • Epsom
  • Rouge Sellier
  • Lining: Gold
  • Contrast stitching: Gold outside and Rouge Sellier inside
Hardware: Unfortunately for the Pochette only Palladium and Gold was possible, no Permabrass or brushed option as planned. But I am sure it will still be very beautiful!

Ps: Does someone know if the Gold hardware will be in 24k? They were not sure in the store. Thank you!
 

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Dear All, as promised here an update on the HSS order I placed today. Eventually I went with a Kelly Dépêches Pochette 25 this time:
  • Epsom
  • Rouge Sellier
  • Lining: Gold
  • Contrast stitching: Gold outside and Rouge Sellier inside
Hardware: Unfortunately for the Pochette only Palladium and Gold was possible, no Permabrass or brushed option as planned. But I am sure it will still be very beautiful!

Ps: Does someone know if the Gold hardware will be in 24k? They were not sure in the store. Thank you!
Perfect choice!
 
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Thanks for the mention @carrie8 and you are correct, there was a country wide pause to SO in September. However, the issue @DutchGirl007 is describing is something different and has been discussed on Reddit. A few CA shoppers there have heard the same story from their CA SAs that SO is off for now due to CA restrictions on something in the manufacturing process. Reddit speculated that SOs are chemically treated with an additional chemical that standard leather pieces are not treated with and that this additional chemical violates the new law. If I’m honest, this sounds incredibly far fetched to me (that SOs are sprayed with something) but that is what these clients are being told. It would be interesting to hear from CA shoppers if the general leather product supply is actively being refreshed or if the CA stores are not importing anything new regarding leather since the date that this new law has gone into effect and are simply selling through current in house supply, as OP here seems to indicate. (ie, CA shoppers, is there an increasing dearth of leather product in the stores?)
From what my SA indicated, they were not importing anything “new” and selling only what they had in stock until the new law is sorted out.
California has many ahead of its time yet annoying laws about chemicals. My wanting a luxury item doesn’t outweigh the well being of others, public health matters.

Let’s hope it gets sorted out in 2025, believe me, I’d like to get my SO! :)

Thank you all for your replies!
 
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