Hermes Special Order Bags

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Since this thread is now huge and the internal links to frequently asked questions no longer work, here is a brief FAQ for newcomers to the Hermes Special Order process.

What are the current choices for "a la carte" Special Order bags?
Current color charts Page 1529 Post 22,934 February 16, 2025
Most Recently Known Selection Definitions (bag types, sizes, combos) Sept 4, 2021 - Probably out of date
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What is an Hermes Special Order?
Each year Hermes gives select clients the opportunity to customize a classic bag in a made-to-order a la carte process. This thread is only for bag A La Carte orders (please use the separate threads for watch SOs and shoe SOs). "A la carte", "SO" (special order), and "HSS" (horse shoe stamp) are used interchangeably on this forum.

When is the Special Order season?
Currently, there is one SO season each calendar year, opening around the middle of February and closing when slots run out or the end of December, whichever occurs first. New SO menus are typically leaked in February and remain constant until the following calendar year. Individual stores have complete discretion on when, within this window, they offer SO appointments to their clients.

Which specs can I customize?
Hermes defines which specs can be customized and these specs can change each SO season. Generally these specs include: leather type, leather color, and hardware color. At your SO appointment, your SA will present you will the limited menu of choices including bag types and sizes (Birkin 25, Kelly 28, etc), pre-set combination designs (line, verso, multico, etc), leather choices, leather colors, hardwares, and a map for which options can be selected for which bag type and size. Not all leathers and hardwares are allowed for all bag types and sizes.

Can I make physical changes to a bag definition during SO?
Sometimes clients would like to change a physical aspect of a bag, like increase the handle drop or add a pocket or a strap. Unfortunately, Hermes does not allow any type of alteration to the bag definition during SO. For extensive changes like these, a client would need to pursue a “Horizon order” which can be read about here.

How long will my SO take?
There is no way to predict how long a SO will take from placing the order to receipt of the finished product. Although Hermes has recently put forward efforts to fulfill a la carte orders within a year, it isn’t uncommon for bags to arrive in just a few months or also much longer than the year estimate.

Can my SA give me status my existing SO?
Unfortunately, the info that can be seen by SAs at the local store is very limited. They can generally see if the order is still outstanding (ie hasn’t been cancelled) but do not get status updates beyond that. Some stores will update clients when they get notice that a bag has been shipped from Paris but other stores wait until the bag is physically in store before alerting the client.

Do I need to place a deposit for SO?
In most regions of the world, a deposit is not required for SOs. However, some Asian and Middle Eastern locations do seem to request at least a partial deposit. Deposits may also be required in other regions if the SO selections are very personalized (ie if you have your personal initials hot stamped onto the bag) such that selling the bag to a different client, if the original client declines the bag, would be difficult.

Do I receive confirmation of my SO after placing my order?
In most regions of the world, the client gives their specifications to their SA and that is the last they hear about it until the bag arrives. Paris stores seem to be an exception to this and send the client a confirmation email within a few weeks of placing the order.

Is there a premium for a SO bag?
No, there is no premium price for SO bags. Their price is the same as any other standard stock bag of the same specifications at the time of delivery.

Is my SO a quota bag?
SO bags are generally counted toward a client’s two-bags-per-year limit at the time that the bag is received and paid for. If a client has already maxed out their quota bag allocation for the year, some stores will allow an exception to purchase your SO as a third bag for the year while other stores will require the customer to wait until a new calendar year before receiving the bag. These policies are subject to be changed per store at their convenience so it is always wise to check with your specific SA.

Where can I get ideas for my SO bag?
This thread shows unique combination bags and this thread shows contrasting stitching bags. Please consider posting your bag there once it arrives!

Where can I see historical SO menus?
2024 on post 21,296 page 1420 Feb 7, 2024
2023 on post 19,874 page 1325 Feb 3, 2023
2022 on post 17,729 page 1182 Sept 13, 2021
2021 on post 15,439 page 1030 Aug 16, 2020
2020 on post 13,222 page 882 Aug 8, 2019
2019 on post 10,472 page 699 Sept 10, 2018
2018 on post 7,687 page 513 Sept 15, 2017
2017 on post 4,749 page 317 Sept 26, 2016
 
Hello!
I am going to be placing my first SO ever. I am still thinking that it's a dream. Based on the great info here and a few other places, I think that I have everything covered except for one part. The lining is still really confusing to me and I am even more confused after reading some posts as well as seeing some YT's talking about it. Maybe someone can shed some light on this for me.

1. I am a guy so getting a larger bag. B35 or B40 in Togo.
2. If I wanted a Verso, I understand that I need to pick a color that's available in Togo. Then I need to look at the lining colors that are available. That one seemed pretty easy.
3. This is where I start to get dizzy with confusion. If I wanted the verso multico version, I need to choose again from the list of available Togo colors offered as main color A. Then I need to choose the second color for Contrast Color B in the Togo colors that are offered. But here's where I am confused. Contrast Color B will be the lining color. So does that mean that my Contrast Color B in Togo will have to also be the same color on the lining list too? Or is that not counted as long as I have two colors in Togo chosen from the A La Carte Menu.

Hope that makes sense and hope someone can help with my confusion. Thanks so much!
 
Hello!
I am going to be placing my first SO ever. I am still thinking that it's a dream. Based on the great info here and a few other places, I think that I have everything covered except for one part. The lining is still really confusing to me and I am even more confused after reading some posts as well as seeing some YT's talking about it. Maybe someone can shed some light on this for me.

1. I am a guy so getting a larger bag. B35 or B40 in Togo.
2. If I wanted a Verso, I understand that I need to pick a color that's available in Togo. Then I need to look at the lining colors that are available. That one seemed pretty easy.
3. This is where I start to get dizzy with confusion. If I wanted the verso multico version, I need to choose again from the list of available Togo colors offered as main color A. Then I need to choose the second color for Contrast Color B in the Togo colors that are offered. But here's where I am confused. Contrast Color B will be the lining color. So does that mean that my Contrast Color B in Togo will have to also be the same color on the lining list too? Or is that not counted as long as I have two colors in Togo chosen from the A La Carte Menu.

Hope that makes sense and hope someone can help with my confusion. Thanks so much!
The linings chart only matters for VERSO configurations. If you are doing a MULTICO configuration, you can pretend the linings chart doesn’t exist.
 
I got offered a SO recently for August. I have narrowed down to a mini kelly sellier in the multico version with permabrass hardware, but can’t decide between the these two color/leather combos:
1. epsom leather - craie as the main exterior color and bleu glacier as the secondary color
2. chevre mysore leather - nata as the main exterior color and gris perle as the secondary color.

I prefer craie over nata as the exterior color, but craie is only available in epsom leather. I’ve been reading a lot of positive reviews about chèvre leather, but have never seen it in person.

Attached are images I found online with the same color & leather combinations - not sure how accurate the colors in the photos are compared to real life though.

Would love tips/ advice on making the leather & color decision. Thank you in advance!View attachment 5841698View attachment 5841699
To be honest, they both look beautiful and not very much different. I think it's more important to pick the leather type you prefer but my choice would be Chevre over Epsom.
 
I got offered a SO recently for August. I have narrowed down to a mini kelly sellier in the multico version with permabrass hardware, but can’t decide between the these two color/leather combos:
1. epsom leather - craie as the main exterior color and bleu glacier as the secondary color
2. chevre mysore leather - nata as the main exterior color and gris perle as the secondary color.

I prefer craie over nata as the exterior color, but craie is only available in epsom leather. I’ve been reading a lot of positive reviews about chèvre leather, but have never seen it in person.

Attached are images I found online with the same color & leather combinations - not sure how accurate the colors in the photos are compared to real life though.

Would love tips/ advice on making the leather & color decision. Thank you in advance!View attachment 5841698View attachment 5841699
Congratulations! I love your ideas. Is it possible for you to see chèvre in person before you decide, perhaps by being shown another bag? Chèvre is light and holds its shape well, but you can see the spine from the animal in the middle of the bag at times (a light vertical line). I only have chèvre in black and I really like it and i have seen that chèvre can make colors appear lighter than they look in epsom; in your case choosing mostly light colors I am not so sure how much it would affect the shade of your bag, if at all. I was just having a conversation with my SA and SM about leather and style versus color, and I think its an individual decision about what should control your decision (color or leather). Color is usually more important to me but I also tend to avoid epsom in SOs. If both color combos appeal to you, I would choose chèvre as I like that leather very much.
 
I got offered a SO recently for August. I have narrowed down to a mini kelly sellier in the multico version with permabrass hardware, but can’t decide between the these two color/leather combos:
1. epsom leather - craie as the main exterior color and bleu glacier as the secondary color
2. chevre mysore leather - nata as the main exterior color and gris perle as the secondary color.

I prefer craie over nata as the exterior color, but craie is only available in epsom leather. I’ve been reading a lot of positive reviews about chèvre leather, but have never seen it in person.

Attached are images I found online with the same color & leather combinations - not sure how accurate the colors in the photos are compared to real life though.

Would love tips/ advice on making the leather & color decision. Thank you in advance!View attachment 5841698View attachment 5841699
Nata looks nicer with this color combo.
 
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I got offered a SO recently for August. I have narrowed down to a mini kelly sellier in the multico version with permabrass hardware, but can’t decide between the these two color/leather combos:
1. epsom leather - craie as the main exterior color and bleu glacier as the secondary color
2. chevre mysore leather - nata as the main exterior color and gris perle as the secondary color.

I prefer craie over nata as the exterior color, but craie is only available in epsom leather. I’ve been reading a lot of positive reviews about chèvre leather, but have never seen it in person.

Attached are images I found online with the same color & leather combinations - not sure how accurate the colors in the photos are compared to real life though.

Would love tips/ advice on making the leather & color decision. Thank you in advance!View attachment 5841698View attachment 5841699
I vote Craie. I’m biased though and have a Craie/Etain combo.

My SA has steered me away from Nata due to the yellow undertones. Just a preference.

Which is more important to you — leather type or color combo? Perhaps that can spearhead your decision.
 
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Hello!
I am going to be placing my first SO ever. I am still thinking that it's a dream. Based on the great info here and a few other places, I think that I have everything covered except for one part. The lining is still really confusing to me and I am even more confused after reading some posts as well as seeing some YT's talking about it. Maybe someone can shed some light on this for me.

1. I am a guy so getting a larger bag. B35 or B40 in Togo.
2. If I wanted a Verso, I understand that I need to pick a color that's available in Togo. Then I need to look at the lining colors that are available. That one seemed pretty easy.
3. This is where I start to get dizzy with confusion. If I wanted the verso multico version, I need to choose again from the list of available Togo colors offered as main color A. Then I need to choose the second color for Contrast Color B in the Togo colors that are offered. But here's where I am confused. Contrast Color B will be the lining color. So does that mean that my Contrast Color B in Togo will have to also be the same color on the lining list too? Or is that not counted as long as I have two colors in Togo chosen from the A La Carte Menu.

Hope that makes sense and hope someone can help with my confusion. Thanks so much!
Congrats!

The latest selection choices (bags/sizes/leathers) are here in post #19874 where you can see that Birkin 40 is available in Togo and Epsom and B35 in Togo, Swift, and Epsom, so Togo is a great choice.

Verso and Multico layouts are linked in @acrowcounted 's sticky above.

Net net: Togo Versos are selected from the available exterior colors in Togo plus the available lining colors (which will be in chèvre when the bag is made).
Togo Multicos are selected from the available colors in Togo; your color choice B does not have to be available in the linings list.

Hope that helps clarify!
 
Congrats!

The latest selection choices (bags/sizes/leathers) are here in post #19874 where you can see that Birkin 40 is available in Togo and Epsom and B35 in Togo, Swift, and Epsom, so Togo is a great choice.

Verso and Multico layouts are linked in @acrowcounted 's sticky above.

Net net: Togo Versos are selected from the available exterior colors in Togo plus the available lining colors (which will be in chèvre when the bag is made).
Togo Multicos are selected from the available colors in Togo; your color choice B does not have to be available in the linings list.

Hope that helps clarify!
Yes, thank you so much. You stated so simply and clearly. It seemed that everyone that tried to explain it did so in a very long drawn out complicated fashion. I know that they were trying to help by going into detail, but you did that in just a few sentences. So, in 6-12 months, I'll be able to post my new bag here. Thank you again!
 
I got offered a SO recently for August. I have narrowed down to a mini kelly sellier in the multico version with permabrass hardware, but can’t decide between the these two color/leather combos:
1. epsom leather - craie as the main exterior color and bleu glacier as the secondary color
2. chevre mysore leather - nata as the main exterior color and gris perle as the secondary color.

I prefer craie over nata as the exterior color, but craie is only available in epsom leather. I’ve been reading a lot of positive reviews about chèvre leather, but have never seen it in person.

Attached are images I found online with the same color & leather combinations - not sure how accurate the colors in the photos are compared to real life though.

Would love tips/ advice on making the leather & color decision. Thank you in advance!View attachment 5841698View attachment 5841699

I just placed my SO in June exactly of your combo #2. I picked chèvre because that leather is harder to come by. Also, I like the warm tone of nata. Craie was a bit too gray for me. I was between gris tourterelle and gris perle. I decided to go with gris perle as I want a more cooler tone.

In the first pic, craie is on the left and nata is on the right.


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