Hermes Special Order Bags

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Since this thread is now huge and the internal links to frequently asked questions no longer work, here is a brief FAQ for newcomers to the Hermes Special Order process.

What are the current choices for "a la carte" Special Order bags?
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Most Recently Known Selection Definitions (bag types, sizes, combos) Sept 4, 2021 - Probably out of date
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What is an Hermes Special Order?
Each year Hermes gives select clients the opportunity to customize a classic bag in a made-to-order a la carte process. This thread is only for bag A La Carte orders (please use the separate threads for watch SOs and shoe SOs). "A la carte", "SO" (special order), and "HSS" (horse shoe stamp) are used interchangeably on this forum.

When is the Special Order season?
Currently, there is one SO season each calendar year, opening around the middle of February and closing when slots run out or the end of December, whichever occurs first. New SO menus are typically leaked in February and remain constant until the following calendar year. Individual stores have complete discretion on when, within this window, they offer SO appointments to their clients.

Which specs can I customize?
Hermes defines which specs can be customized and these specs can change each SO season. Generally these specs include: leather type, leather color, and hardware color. At your SO appointment, your SA will present you will the limited menu of choices including bag types and sizes (Birkin 25, Kelly 28, etc), pre-set combination designs (line, verso, multico, etc), leather choices, leather colors, hardwares, and a map for which options can be selected for which bag type and size. Not all leathers and hardwares are allowed for all bag types and sizes.

Can I make physical changes to a bag definition during SO?
Sometimes clients would like to change a physical aspect of a bag, like increase the handle drop or add a pocket or a strap. Unfortunately, Hermes does not allow any type of alteration to the bag definition during SO. For extensive changes like these, a client would need to pursue a “Horizon order” which can be read about here.

How long will my SO take?
There is no way to predict how long a SO will take from placing the order to receipt of the finished product. Although Hermes has recently put forward efforts to fulfill a la carte orders within a year, it isn’t uncommon for bags to arrive in just a few months or also much longer than the year estimate.

Can my SA give me status my existing SO?
Unfortunately, the info that can be seen by SAs at the local store is very limited. They can generally see if the order is still outstanding (ie hasn’t been cancelled) but do not get status updates beyond that. Some stores will update clients when they get notice that a bag has been shipped from Paris but other stores wait until the bag is physically in store before alerting the client.

Do I need to place a deposit for SO?
In most regions of the world, a deposit is not required for SOs. However, some Asian and Middle Eastern locations do seem to request at least a partial deposit. Deposits may also be required in other regions if the SO selections are very personalized (ie if you have your personal initials hot stamped onto the bag) such that selling the bag to a different client, if the original client declines the bag, would be difficult.

Do I receive confirmation of my SO after placing my order?
In most regions of the world, the client gives their specifications to their SA and that is the last they hear about it until the bag arrives. Paris stores seem to be an exception to this and send the client a confirmation email within a few weeks of placing the order.

Is there a premium for a SO bag?
No, there is no premium price for SO bags. Their price is the same as any other standard stock bag of the same specifications at the time of delivery.

Is my SO a quota bag?
SO bags are generally counted toward a client’s two-bags-per-year limit at the time that the bag is received and paid for. If a client has already maxed out their quota bag allocation for the year, some stores will allow an exception to purchase your SO as a third bag for the year while other stores will require the customer to wait until a new calendar year before receiving the bag. These policies are subject to be changed per store at their convenience so it is always wise to check with your specific SA.

Where can I get ideas for my SO bag?
This thread shows unique combination bags and this thread shows contrasting stitching bags. Please consider posting your bag there once it arrives!

Where can I see historical SO menus?
2024 on post 21,296 page 1420 Feb 7, 2024
2023 on post 19,874 page 1325 Feb 3, 2023
2022 on post 17,729 page 1182 Sept 13, 2021
2021 on post 15,439 page 1030 Aug 16, 2020
2020 on post 13,222 page 882 Aug 8, 2019
2019 on post 10,472 page 699 Sept 10, 2018
2018 on post 7,687 page 513 Sept 15, 2017
2017 on post 4,749 page 317 Sept 26, 2016
 
Hi, this is getting a little confusing, so I just wanted to clarify for you.

Sellier and Retourne (as I’m sure you already know) are the two forms of construction for Kelly bags and one of the differences is stitching on the outside (Sellier) vs on the inside (Retourne). Sellier has the stiffening layer; it is rigid (used to be called Rigide) with firm edges and Retourne is more relaxed. Each is currently made from different leathers (with exceptions). By the way, K20 is made only in Sellier.
Thank you for letting me know. I appreciate.
I did not know that stiffening layer is called Rigide. So Kelly sellier has at least 3 layers (surface layer, this stiffening layer and inside layer)?


Currently, Kelly Sellier is usually made with Chevre, Epsom, Tadelakt or Box. Most exotics are also used for Sellier. Retourne is often made with Togo, Clemence, Swift, etc. So there wouldn’t be an Epsom Retourne Kelly.

In the past, Togo was used for both Kelly Sellier and Retourne but not currently (to the best of my knowledge).
I saw some of SO bags of Togo Sellier but not IRL. Does it become slouchy, or because of the stiffening layer, it keeps the shape?


For Birkins, Sellier construction is pretty new, as it was introduced a few seasons ago. I guess because of that we don’t really refer to Birkin Sellier and Birkin Retourne, just Birkin and Birkin Sellier.

I believe the Birkin Sellier is only made with Epsom; everything else is just considered a Birkin, and in this case while Epsom is used for both, I should note that I have not seen many non-Sellier Epsom Birkins lately, so it could be that they are transitioning to Epsom being only used for Birkin Sellier.

Has anyone seen a Birkin Sellier made with a different leather? I want to say that I have, but I can’t quite recall.
Oh, and also, chevre is more rigid than togo. It is among the least likely to slouch off all the regular leathers. Swift gets slouchy.
When I was comparing my bastia in Chevre and Epsom, I felt Chevre is "thinner" and also weighed slightly less than Epsom, so I worried that Chevre might become a bit slouchy.
I understood now that Kelly Sellier has stiffening layer hence hold shape, but did you mean even B25 (retourne, not sellier) with Chevre will keep shape than let's say Togo? Does B25 have something like stiffening layer or not?
Very interesting and thank you !!
 
Does anyone have any pictures of K20 in multico (whether to be SO or just tricolor) with the bag "OPENED" ideally wearing crossbody?

What I mean by "OPENED" is like the 3rd and 4th pictures in cactus.
As I feel I am going to wear the bag crossbody and "opened", I wanted to see how it look like.

(Especially if the color combo is Grey/Etoupe/Browns/Gold/Black/Dark as main colors with any color as second color, it will be super helpful.)
It is hard to imagine, so any pictures will be super helpful. Thank you :heart:

If it looks "busy" (if you know what I mean), I might decide to go for verso.

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After fourteen months of waiting, I was able to pick up my first SO, a B25, over the weekend. I am so happy with my design choices! Nata is such a beautiful, creamy color and the brushed gold hardware looks amazing against it. I went with a Rose Mexico interior for a fun pop of color and chevre mysore leather. I can’t stop staring at her, she’s so beautiful!
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After fourteen months of waiting, I was able to pick up my first SO, a B25, over the weekend. I am so happy with my design choices! Nata is such a beautiful, creamy color and the brushed gold hardware looks amazing against it. I went with a Rose Mexico interior for a fun pop of color and chevre mysore leather. I can’t stop staring at her, she’s so beautiful!
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Beautiful bag ..congratulations
 
After fourteen months of waiting, I was able to pick up my first SO, a B25, over the weekend. I am so happy with my design choices! Nata is such a beautiful, creamy color and the brushed gold hardware looks amazing against it. I went with a Rose Mexico interior for a fun pop of color and chevre mysore leather. I can’t stop staring at her, she’s so beautiful!
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Nata chèvre with brushed gold is such a beautiful combination!!! The pop of pink is so fun! I also just selected a similar combo in a Kelly.
 
After fourteen months of waiting, I was able to pick up my first SO, a B25, over the weekend. I am so happy with my design choices! Nata is such a beautiful, creamy color and the brushed gold hardware looks amazing against it. I went with a Rose Mexico interior for a fun pop of color and chevre mysore leather. I can’t stop staring at her, she’s so beautiful!
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That is such a beautiful bag! I’m so in love. Congrats.
 
After fourteen months of waiting, I was able to pick up my first SO, a B25, over the weekend. I am so happy with my design choices! Nata is such a beautiful, creamy color and the brushed gold hardware looks amazing against it. I went with a Rose Mexico interior for a fun pop of color and chevre mysore leather. I can’t stop staring at her, she’s so beautiful!
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Gorgeous combo… congratulations!
 
After waiting for 1 year and 5 months, my Sa finally texted me and said the bag is coming soon. When you get the coming soon text, how much longer did you wait before the bag is available to collect? ( I live in a different country and is trying to figure out flights) Any ideas appreciated
 
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After waiting for 1 year and 5 months, my Sa finally texted me and said the bag is coming soon. When you get the coming soon text, how much longer did you wait before the bag is available to collect? ( I live in a different country and is trying to figure out flights) Any ideas appreciated
I've never gotten "coming soon"! Not even in Paris! It's always "Your bag is here, get over here" :lol: Usually SAs don't know, so, they may just be reassuring you. Since your SA knows you're based out of the country I would just respond with some variation of "days, weeks, or months"?
 
After waiting for 1 year and 5 months, my Sa finally texted me and said the bag is coming soon. When you get the coming soon text, how much longer did you wait before the bag is available to collect? ( I live in a different country and is trying to figure out flights) Any ideas appreciated
I would wait until they confirm that it has actually arrived and then make travel plans. Stores are generally happy to work with people on holding a SO for however long until the client can get there so there really is no rush.
 
After fourteen months of waiting, I was able to pick up my first SO, a B25, over the weekend. I am so happy with my design choices! Nata is such a beautiful, creamy color and the brushed gold hardware looks amazing against it. I went with a Rose Mexico interior for a fun pop of color and chevre mysore leather. I can’t stop staring at her, she’s so beautiful!
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Beautiful, congratulations!
 
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