Hermes Special Order Bags

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Since this thread is now huge and the internal links to frequently asked questions no longer work, here is a brief FAQ for newcomers to the Hermes Special Order process.

What are the current choices for "a la carte" Special Order bags?
Current color charts Page 1529 Post 22,934 February 16, 2025
Most Recently Known Selection Definitions (bag types, sizes, combos) Sept 4, 2021 - Probably out of date
Thread Choices for stitching. - Probably out of date
Lucky Symbols for stamping.


What is an Hermes Special Order?
Each year Hermes gives select clients the opportunity to customize a classic bag in a made-to-order a la carte process. This thread is only for bag A La Carte orders (please use the separate threads for watch SOs and shoe SOs). "A la carte", "SO" (special order), and "HSS" (horse shoe stamp) are used interchangeably on this forum.

When is the Special Order season?
Currently, there is one SO season each calendar year, opening around the middle of February and closing when slots run out or the end of December, whichever occurs first. New SO menus are typically leaked in February and remain constant until the following calendar year. Individual stores have complete discretion on when, within this window, they offer SO appointments to their clients.

Which specs can I customize?
Hermes defines which specs can be customized and these specs can change each SO season. Generally these specs include: leather type, leather color, and hardware color. At your SO appointment, your SA will present you will the limited menu of choices including bag types and sizes (Birkin 25, Kelly 28, etc), pre-set combination designs (line, verso, multico, etc), leather choices, leather colors, hardwares, and a map for which options can be selected for which bag type and size. Not all leathers and hardwares are allowed for all bag types and sizes.

Can I make physical changes to a bag definition during SO?
Sometimes clients would like to change a physical aspect of a bag, like increase the handle drop or add a pocket or a strap. Unfortunately, Hermes does not allow any type of alteration to the bag definition during SO. For extensive changes like these, a client would need to pursue a “Horizon order” which can be read about here.

How long will my SO take?
There is no way to predict how long a SO will take from placing the order to receipt of the finished product. Although Hermes has recently put forward efforts to fulfill a la carte orders within a year, it isn’t uncommon for bags to arrive in just a few months or also much longer than the year estimate.

Can my SA give me status my existing SO?
Unfortunately, the info that can be seen by SAs at the local store is very limited. They can generally see if the order is still outstanding (ie hasn’t been cancelled) but do not get status updates beyond that. Some stores will update clients when they get notice that a bag has been shipped from Paris but other stores wait until the bag is physically in store before alerting the client.

Do I need to place a deposit for SO?
In most regions of the world, a deposit is not required for SOs. However, some Asian and Middle Eastern locations do seem to request at least a partial deposit. Deposits may also be required in other regions if the SO selections are very personalized (ie if you have your personal initials hot stamped onto the bag) such that selling the bag to a different client, if the original client declines the bag, would be difficult.

Do I receive confirmation of my SO after placing my order?
In most regions of the world, the client gives their specifications to their SA and that is the last they hear about it until the bag arrives. Paris stores seem to be an exception to this and send the client a confirmation email within a few weeks of placing the order.

Is there a premium for a SO bag?
No, there is no premium price for SO bags. Their price is the same as any other standard stock bag of the same specifications at the time of delivery.

Is my SO a quota bag?
SO bags are generally counted toward a client’s two-bags-per-year limit at the time that the bag is received and paid for. If a client has already maxed out their quota bag allocation for the year, some stores will allow an exception to purchase your SO as a third bag for the year while other stores will require the customer to wait until a new calendar year before receiving the bag. These policies are subject to be changed per store at their convenience so it is always wise to check with your specific SA.

Where can I get ideas for my SO bag?
This thread shows unique combination bags and this thread shows contrasting stitching bags. Please consider posting your bag there once it arrives!

Where can I see historical SO menus?
2024 on post 21,296 page 1420 Feb 7, 2024
2023 on post 19,874 page 1325 Feb 3, 2023
2022 on post 17,729 page 1182 Sept 13, 2021
2021 on post 15,439 page 1030 Aug 16, 2020
2020 on post 13,222 page 882 Aug 8, 2019
2019 on post 10,472 page 699 Sept 10, 2018
2018 on post 7,687 page 513 Sept 15, 2017
2017 on post 4,749 page 317 Sept 26, 2016
 
I think no because some leathers probably aren't great for the Sellier Kelly, simply due to their softness, so Hermès probably just doesn't do them. I don't think I've ever seen a Sellier Kelly in Clemence, Togo, or Gulliver/Swift (even on the used market), for example.

Sellier in Togo was previously offered as an SO but not any more.
 
Did my first SO a couple of weeks ago and it was an awesome experience. After weeks of researching, I went in knowing pretty much what I wanted: a B25, chrevre leather, brushed gold hardware, and a light colored bag which for me is a step outside my comfort zone. This made selecting a color a fairly quick and easy. The one thing I wasn’t sure of is if I wanted to do a verso or a multicolored. In the end I did a verso B25 Nata for the exterior and Rose Mexico for the interior. I know, boring however, I’m still excited! :yahoo:
 
Thank you @acrowcounted, @duggi84 @Clo_Clo for your answers and expertise.

This is the correct current chart. Unfortunately, some SAs aren’t as detail oriented when placing a la carte orders and overlook these significant limitations on selections. You are correct though that apparently a K25 in Clemence is not possible for SO in either Sellier nor Retourne (clemence Sellier has never been an option in my recollection.) My best guess would be that the SA took her order as such and that your sister will be receiving a phone call in the near future to update her specs when the store manager unsuccessfully attempts to enter the order into the computer system. (Which means your sister isn’t wrong, her SA is.)
As always this forum is a great source of knowledge and apparently a better one than some employees. Telling my sister that her SA is wrong might be even more difficult than telling her that she's wrong but thankfully I have this forum to prove it :D

I think no because some leathers probably aren't great for the Sellier Kelly, simply due to their softness, so Hermès probably just doesn't do them. I don't think I've ever seen a Sellier Kelly in Clemence, Togo, or Gulliver/Swift (even on the used market), for example.

Too bad they don’t do Togo, Clemence or Swift in Sellier but I guess it makes sense given the many slouchiness bag pictures that we have here on this forum of Clemence and the other leathers.


Sellier in Togo was previously offered as an SO but not any more.

Well that is unfortunate, this would have been my dream combination if I'd ever be offered an SO again.
 
Did my first SO a couple of weeks ago and it was an awesome experience. After weeks of researching, I went in knowing pretty much what I wanted: a B25, chrevre leather, brushed gold hardware, and a light colored bag which for me is a step outside my comfort zone. This made selecting a color a fairly quick and easy. The one thing I wasn’t sure of is if I wanted to do a verso or a multicolored. In the end I did a verso B25 Nata for the exterior and Rose Mexico for the interior. I know, boring however, I’m still excited! :yahoo:

Not boring at all. In fact, it is a more classic combo that can be enjoyed for many years to come….which is the point with Hermes, right? :)
 
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Hi all,

Need your input for my hss order
I was considering to have a K25 in chevre multico with gris T as main color. For the sides I have been thinking of Nata, but my SM strongly suggest to do Gris Perle instead.
Her consideration was:
- She has seen every other person doing SO in a very similar combo hence the alacarte won’t be as special
- Nata can be too feminine, and she knows me well enough to know that I’m not

Has anyone see the combo of Gris T and Gris Perle before? I love the color but just can’t find the combo in picture

Thank you :smile:

For me, I feel the combo of GT/nata will definitely be gorgeous. I’m not as sure about the combo of GT and GP as I feel like GT is more warm/beige toned (I have a GT togo b25 rghw) while the Gp is more cool/grey toned. I could not find an example of these two colors in an SO. The closest I could find was GT and Gris mouette. Gris mouette is a cool toned grey darker than GP. Perhaps because GP is a much lighter grey, the combo of GT and GP could look nice but it’s hard for me to say for sure without seeing pics of the combo in a multico bag.

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Hi all,

Need your input for my hss order
I was considering to have a K25 in chevre multico with gris T as main color. For the sides I have been thinking of Nata, but my SM strongly suggest to do Gris Perle instead.
Her consideration was:
- She has seen every other person doing SO in a very similar combo hence the alacarte won’t be as special
- Nata can be too feminine, and she knows me well enough to know that I’m not

Has anyone see the combo of Gris T and Gris Perle before? I love the color but just can’t find the combo in picture

Thank you :smile:
Hello!

I did a similar order but still waiting. It was gris t and craie in togo. I'd say go with your gut because it's a bag that you'll carry and love.
 

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Hi all,

Need your input for my hss order
I was considering to have a K25 in chevre multico with gris T as main color. For the sides I have been thinking of Nata, but my SM strongly suggest to do Gris Perle instead.
Her consideration was:
- She has seen every other person doing SO in a very similar combo hence the alacarte won’t be as special
- Nata can be too feminine, and she knows me well enough to know that I’m not

Has anyone see the combo of Gris T and Gris Perle before? I love the color but just can’t find the combo in picture

Thank you :smile:

I would not mix GP and GT personally due to cool and warm tones, respectively.

I did etain and craie multi-color B30 a few years ago. Love the bag, but the warm tone resin on the craie clashing with cool tone etain drove me nuts. I ended up getting the resin repainted to match etain to make the bag overall cool toned.

If this would not drive you nuts, then by all means proceed ahead. Just food for thought though.
 
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Too bad they don’t do Togo, Clemence or Swift in Sellier but I guess it makes sense given the many slouchiness bag pictures that we have here on this forum of Clemence and the other leathers.

Togo sellier doesn't slouch; the stiffening insert in sellier Kellys ensures that they hold structure. There are many happy owners of Togo sellier including me. I only know one owner of a Swift sellier Kelly (it's rigid and quite beautiful) and, while I have been offered Clemence sellier in the past, I haven't seen it IRL.

It seems that H is just trying to keep the available combinations down to manage production - for instance you now also see chèvre only available in sellier Kellys, B25s limited in leather options, etc. etc....not the case a few years ago.
 
Togo sellier doesn't slouch; the stiffening insert in sellier Kellys ensures that they hold structure. There are many happy owners of Togo sellier including me. I only know one owner of a Swift sellier Kelly (it's rigid and quite beautiful) and, while I have been offered Clemence sellier in the past, I haven't seen it IRL.

It seems that H is just trying to keep the available combinations down to manage production - for instance you now also see chèvre only available in sellier Kellys, B25s limited in leather options, etc. etc....not the case a few years ago.
Lucky you, enjoy it and please know that I am a bit vert-cyprès-eyed :) Knowing that your dream combination was once possible is always a bummer. Maybe we all can pursuade H that we need more SO combinations again.
 
Did my first SO a couple of weeks ago and it was an awesome experience. After weeks of researching, I went in knowing pretty much what I wanted: a B25, chrevre leather, brushed gold hardware, and a light colored bag which for me is a step outside my comfort zone. This made selecting a color a fairly quick and easy. The one thing I wasn’t sure of is if I wanted to do a verso or a multicolored. In the end I did a verso B25 Nata for the exterior and Rose Mexico for the interior. I know, boring however, I’m still excited! :yahoo:
Absolutely stunning! You won't regret it.
 
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Lucky you, enjoy it and please know that I am a bit vert-cyprès-eyed :smile: Knowing that your dream combination was once possible is always a bummer. Maybe we all can pursuade H that we need more SO combinations again.
I am obsessed with VC so I am right there with you. I'm also craving a chèvre retourné. The choices change and change, so, who knows? I always thought Togo sellier was one of the best possible choices....maybe when larger selliers are popular again it will happen, since chèvre is only for smaller bags?
 
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Over the moon with this beauty ! Order place in february 2021 receive in Mars 2022 ( Europe based.)

It’s a Kelly 28 retourné clémence tourillon craie/trench with gold matte hardware.
Been seeing a lot of this combo color but in epsom sellier.
 

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