Hermes Special Order Bags

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Since this thread is now huge and the internal links to frequently asked questions no longer work, here is a brief FAQ for newcomers to the Hermes Special Order process.

What are the current choices for "a la carte" Special Order bags?
Current color charts Page 1529 Post 22,934 February 16, 2025
Most Recently Known Selection Definitions (bag types, sizes, combos) Sept 4, 2021 - Probably out of date
Thread Choices for stitching. - Probably out of date
Lucky Symbols for stamping.


What is an Hermes Special Order?
Each year Hermes gives select clients the opportunity to customize a classic bag in a made-to-order a la carte process. This thread is only for bag A La Carte orders (please use the separate threads for watch SOs and shoe SOs). "A la carte", "SO" (special order), and "HSS" (horse shoe stamp) are used interchangeably on this forum.

When is the Special Order season?
Currently, there is one SO season each calendar year, opening around the middle of February and closing when slots run out or the end of December, whichever occurs first. New SO menus are typically leaked in February and remain constant until the following calendar year. Individual stores have complete discretion on when, within this window, they offer SO appointments to their clients.

Which specs can I customize?
Hermes defines which specs can be customized and these specs can change each SO season. Generally these specs include: leather type, leather color, and hardware color. At your SO appointment, your SA will present you will the limited menu of choices including bag types and sizes (Birkin 25, Kelly 28, etc), pre-set combination designs (line, verso, multico, etc), leather choices, leather colors, hardwares, and a map for which options can be selected for which bag type and size. Not all leathers and hardwares are allowed for all bag types and sizes.

Can I make physical changes to a bag definition during SO?
Sometimes clients would like to change a physical aspect of a bag, like increase the handle drop or add a pocket or a strap. Unfortunately, Hermes does not allow any type of alteration to the bag definition during SO. For extensive changes like these, a client would need to pursue a “Horizon order” which can be read about here.

How long will my SO take?
There is no way to predict how long a SO will take from placing the order to receipt of the finished product. Although Hermes has recently put forward efforts to fulfill a la carte orders within a year, it isn’t uncommon for bags to arrive in just a few months or also much longer than the year estimate.

Can my SA give me status my existing SO?
Unfortunately, the info that can be seen by SAs at the local store is very limited. They can generally see if the order is still outstanding (ie hasn’t been cancelled) but do not get status updates beyond that. Some stores will update clients when they get notice that a bag has been shipped from Paris but other stores wait until the bag is physically in store before alerting the client.

Do I need to place a deposit for SO?
In most regions of the world, a deposit is not required for SOs. However, some Asian and Middle Eastern locations do seem to request at least a partial deposit. Deposits may also be required in other regions if the SO selections are very personalized (ie if you have your personal initials hot stamped onto the bag) such that selling the bag to a different client, if the original client declines the bag, would be difficult.

Do I receive confirmation of my SO after placing my order?
In most regions of the world, the client gives their specifications to their SA and that is the last they hear about it until the bag arrives. Paris stores seem to be an exception to this and send the client a confirmation email within a few weeks of placing the order.

Is there a premium for a SO bag?
No, there is no premium price for SO bags. Their price is the same as any other standard stock bag of the same specifications at the time of delivery.

Is my SO a quota bag?
SO bags are generally counted toward a client’s two-bags-per-year limit at the time that the bag is received and paid for. If a client has already maxed out their quota bag allocation for the year, some stores will allow an exception to purchase your SO as a third bag for the year while other stores will require the customer to wait until a new calendar year before receiving the bag. These policies are subject to be changed per store at their convenience so it is always wise to check with your specific SA.

Where can I get ideas for my SO bag?
This thread shows unique combination bags and this thread shows contrasting stitching bags. Please consider posting your bag there once it arrives!

Where can I see historical SO menus?
2024 on post 21,296 page 1420 Feb 7, 2024
2023 on post 19,874 page 1325 Feb 3, 2023
2022 on post 17,729 page 1182 Sept 13, 2021
2021 on post 15,439 page 1030 Aug 16, 2020
2020 on post 13,222 page 882 Aug 8, 2019
2019 on post 10,472 page 699 Sept 10, 2018
2018 on post 7,687 page 513 Sept 15, 2017
2017 on post 4,749 page 317 Sept 26, 2016
 
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Thank you all for your thoughtful replies. Given I only have 24 hours and a full schedule today, I won’t be able to make it to the H store in time to check things out in person.

I did a lot of research on TPF and elsewhere. Like most H colors, magnolia appears to be a chameleon color depending on the lighting. I do like that it leans more pink.

My SA was kind enough to send me a photo of the swatch change last night. My SM verified that if I ended up declining, I would be still be in good standing. I guess there is no harm in going forward. First world problems, I know.

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Magnolia Swift, RS stitching, BGHW, Gris Perle interior
Did you decide to move forward? I hope so!!!
 
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Hi, I'd love to get your fashionable TPF'ers opinions! My first SO appointment is next week, I'm *beyond* excited and, thanks to the wealth of helpful info in this forum, I'm pretty settled on what I want--except for lining color. I want a K28 Sellier in Vert Criquet epsom with PHW (or permabrass, I've not yet seen it in person), in the verso style with a beautiful complementary color inside. I'm drawn to the pinks like Rose Mexico, Framboise, and Rose Pourpre, but it's hard to parse the subtle shade differences and imagine how they would present as a lining. Do you have any opinions on the best pairing with Vert Criquet? What would you choose for interior color, among those deep pinks or the other options? Thank you in advance!
I’ve recently bought a bag that what supposed to be someone’s special order and the interior is framboise. As you can see on the picture it’s almost red so I’d take the rose Mexico or pourpre.
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Hi, I'd love to get your fashionable TPF'ers opinions! My first SO appointment is next week, I'm *beyond* excited and, thanks to the wealth of helpful info in this forum, I'm pretty settled on what I want--except for lining color. I want a K28 Sellier in Vert Criquet epsom with PHW (or permabrass, I've not yet seen it in person), in the verso style with a beautiful complementary color inside. I'm drawn to the pinks like Rose Mexico, Framboise, and Rose Pourpre, but it's hard to parse the subtle shade differences and imagine how they would present as a lining. Do you have any opinions on the best pairing with Vert Criquet? What would you choose for interior color, among those deep pinks or the other options? Thank you in advance!

If you are set on these 3 options, I would do Rose Mexico as it is the most pink for a more floral vibe. I think Framboise is too red (Xmas vibes), and RP is too purple (Joker/ Barney as others have mentioned, but this would be my #2 pick out of these 3 options).

I would suggest Gris Perle as a softer and less competitive color so that Vert Criquet could shine so to speak, but that sounds like it may not be the best option for your preference.

Have you considered lime or any of the green linings as more of a “green family” compliment to Vert Criquet?
 
If you are set on these 3 options, I would do Rose Mexico as it is the most pink for a more floral vibe. I think Framboise is too red (Xmas vibes), and RP is too purple (Joker/ Barney as others have mentioned, but this would be my #2 pick out of these 3 options).

I would suggest Gris Perle as a softer and less competitive color so that Vert Criquet could shine so to speak, but that sounds like it may not be the best option for your preference.

Have you considered lime or any of the green linings as more of a “green family” compliment to Vert Criquet?
Thank you for your thoughtful input. Your color analysis is helpful. I am not totally set on the deep pinks, I'm also curious to see Bougainvillier and yes, I love my greens! :) I'm keeping an open mind. Also, I saw your other post, and fwiw, I have a Magnolia Kelly in togo, and it's a really fun, beautiful color that is surprisingly wearable. I hope when your swift Birkin arrives, you just love it! And pls share pics!
 
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Hi, I'd love to get your fashionable TPF'ers opinions! My first SO appointment is next week, I'm *beyond* excited and, thanks to the wealth of helpful info in this forum, I'm pretty settled on what I want--except for lining color. I want a K28 Sellier in Vert Criquet epsom with PHW (or permabrass, I've not yet seen it in person), in the verso style with a beautiful complementary color inside. I'm drawn to the pinks like Rose Mexico, Framboise, and Rose Pourpre, but it's hard to parse the subtle shade differences and imagine how they would present as a lining. Do you have any opinions on the best pairing with Vert Criquet? What would you choose for interior color, among those deep pinks or the other options? Thank you in advance!
Love vert criquet! I’d do a bright pink like magnolia or RP or a complimentary color like malachite or Vert Jade that would be pretty as well

I recently got a Verso magnolia and rouge casaque195C51F9-1D95-43A1-BDF8-8BD000F0CF3B.jpeg
 
Hi all,

Need your input for my hss order
I was considering to have a K25 in chevre multico with gris T as main color. For the sides I have been thinking of Nata, but my SM strongly suggest to do Gris Perle instead.
Her consideration was:
- She has seen every other person doing SO in a very similar combo hence the alacarte won’t be as special
- Nata can be too feminine, and she knows me well enough to know that I’m not

Has anyone see the combo of Gris T and Gris Perle before? I love the color but just can’t find the combo in picture

Thank you :smile:
 
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Is there an updated version available of the Model/Material/Hardware chart for 2022? My sister did an SO last weekend for a K25 Nata in Clemence (she has no copy or photo of her order). Is Sellier with Clemence leather even possible this season? I checked the 2021 sheet which states that Clemence is not possible in Sellier style and Size 25 is also not an option.
Maybe an expert on SOs can chime in here, that would be so helpful - I don’t want to start a family fight on mis-information. Yet, we are highly competitive when it comes to being right and if she is wrong then she needs to be told :lol: Since I'm the little one she always told me that she knows better because she is older.

This first image tells you which type of hardware and leather for each size of the various styles.

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Is there an updated version available of the Model/Material/Hardware chart for 2022? My sister did an SO last weekend for a K25 Nata in Clemence (she has no copy or photo of her order). Is Sellier with Clemence leather even possible this season? I checked the 2021 sheet which states that Clemence is not possible in Sellier style and Size 25 is also not an option.
Maybe an expert on SOs can chime in here, that would be so helpful - I don’t want to start a family fight on mis-information. Yet, we are highly competitive when it comes to being right and if she is wrong then she needs to be told :lol: Since I'm the little one she always told me that she knows better because she is older.
This is the correct current chart. Unfortunately, some SAs aren’t as detail oriented when placing a la carte orders and overlook these significant limitations on selections. You are correct though that apparently a K25 in Clemence is not possible for SO in either Sellier nor Retourne (clemence Sellier has never been an option in my recollection.) My best guess would be that the SA took her order as such and that your sister will be receiving a phone call in the near future to update her specs when the store manager unsuccessfully attempts to enter the order into the computer system. (Which means your sister isn’t wrong, her SA is.)
 
Hi all,

Need your input for my hss order
I was considering to have a K25 in chevre multico with gris T as main color. For the sides I have been thinking of Nata, but my SM strongly suggest to do Gris Perle instead.
Her consideration was:
- She has seen every other person doing SO in a very similar combo hence the alacarte won’t be as special
- Nata can be too feminine, and she knows me well enough to know that I’m not

Has anyone see the combo of Gris T and Gris Perle before? I love the color but just can’t find the combo in picture

Thank you :smile:

I was seriously thinking about Gris P + Gris T in chèvre for a Kelly Sellier and then decided to go another route. I did some research and pretty sure I saw a B25 in the same combo you are thinking and that bag was complimented by lots of people as very elegant and beautiful.
 
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Is there an updated version available of the Model/Material/Hardware chart for 2022? My sister did an SO last weekend for a K25 Nata in Clemence (she has no copy or photo of her order). Is Sellier with Clemence leather even possible this season? I checked the 2021 sheet which states that Clemence is not possible in Sellier style and Size 25 is also not an option.
Maybe an expert on SOs can chime in here, that would be so helpful - I don’t want to start a family fight on mis-information. Yet, we are highly competitive when it comes to being right and if she is wrong then she needs to be told :lol: Since I'm the little one she always told me that she knows better because she is older.

I think no because some leathers probably aren't great for the Sellier Kelly, simply due to their softness, so Hermès probably just doesn't do them. I don't think I've ever seen a Sellier Kelly in Clemence, Togo, or Gulliver/Swift (even on the used market), for example.
 
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