Hermes Special Order Bags

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Since this thread is now huge and the internal links to frequently asked questions no longer work, here is a brief FAQ for newcomers to the Hermes Special Order process.

What are the current choices for "a la carte" Special Order bags?
Current color charts Page 1529 Post 22,934 February 16, 2025
Most Recently Known Selection Definitions (bag types, sizes, combos) Sept 4, 2021 - Probably out of date
Thread Choices for stitching. - Probably out of date
Lucky Symbols for stamping.


What is an Hermes Special Order?
Each year Hermes gives select clients the opportunity to customize a classic bag in a made-to-order a la carte process. This thread is only for bag A La Carte orders (please use the separate threads for watch SOs and shoe SOs). "A la carte", "SO" (special order), and "HSS" (horse shoe stamp) are used interchangeably on this forum.

When is the Special Order season?
Currently, there is one SO season each calendar year, opening around the middle of February and closing when slots run out or the end of December, whichever occurs first. New SO menus are typically leaked in February and remain constant until the following calendar year. Individual stores have complete discretion on when, within this window, they offer SO appointments to their clients.

Which specs can I customize?
Hermes defines which specs can be customized and these specs can change each SO season. Generally these specs include: leather type, leather color, and hardware color. At your SO appointment, your SA will present you will the limited menu of choices including bag types and sizes (Birkin 25, Kelly 28, etc), pre-set combination designs (line, verso, multico, etc), leather choices, leather colors, hardwares, and a map for which options can be selected for which bag type and size. Not all leathers and hardwares are allowed for all bag types and sizes.

Can I make physical changes to a bag definition during SO?
Sometimes clients would like to change a physical aspect of a bag, like increase the handle drop or add a pocket or a strap. Unfortunately, Hermes does not allow any type of alteration to the bag definition during SO. For extensive changes like these, a client would need to pursue a “Horizon order” which can be read about here.

How long will my SO take?
There is no way to predict how long a SO will take from placing the order to receipt of the finished product. Although Hermes has recently put forward efforts to fulfill a la carte orders within a year, it isn’t uncommon for bags to arrive in just a few months or also much longer than the year estimate.

Can my SA give me status my existing SO?
Unfortunately, the info that can be seen by SAs at the local store is very limited. They can generally see if the order is still outstanding (ie hasn’t been cancelled) but do not get status updates beyond that. Some stores will update clients when they get notice that a bag has been shipped from Paris but other stores wait until the bag is physically in store before alerting the client.

Do I need to place a deposit for SO?
In most regions of the world, a deposit is not required for SOs. However, some Asian and Middle Eastern locations do seem to request at least a partial deposit. Deposits may also be required in other regions if the SO selections are very personalized (ie if you have your personal initials hot stamped onto the bag) such that selling the bag to a different client, if the original client declines the bag, would be difficult.

Do I receive confirmation of my SO after placing my order?
In most regions of the world, the client gives their specifications to their SA and that is the last they hear about it until the bag arrives. Paris stores seem to be an exception to this and send the client a confirmation email within a few weeks of placing the order.

Is there a premium for a SO bag?
No, there is no premium price for SO bags. Their price is the same as any other standard stock bag of the same specifications at the time of delivery.

Is my SO a quota bag?
SO bags are generally counted toward a client’s two-bags-per-year limit at the time that the bag is received and paid for. If a client has already maxed out their quota bag allocation for the year, some stores will allow an exception to purchase your SO as a third bag for the year while other stores will require the customer to wait until a new calendar year before receiving the bag. These policies are subject to be changed per store at their convenience so it is always wise to check with your specific SA.

Where can I get ideas for my SO bag?
This thread shows unique combination bags and this thread shows contrasting stitching bags. Please consider posting your bag there once it arrives!

Where can I see historical SO menus?
2024 on post 21,296 page 1420 Feb 7, 2024
2023 on post 19,874 page 1325 Feb 3, 2023
2022 on post 17,729 page 1182 Sept 13, 2021
2021 on post 15,439 page 1030 Aug 16, 2020
2020 on post 13,222 page 882 Aug 8, 2019
2019 on post 10,472 page 699 Sept 10, 2018
2018 on post 7,687 page 513 Sept 15, 2017
2017 on post 4,749 page 317 Sept 26, 2016
 
I’m in the same quandary as @Notorious Pink ... don’t know what to pick, and I am tempted by Chèvre.

I could have chosen with my eyes closed off the 2020 palette, but this year? :eek::crybaby:
Perhaps the quoted post from @periogirl28 might be of help? :smile: (I edited in red to cross out info that is no longer relevant and updated with italics because this was posted 3 years ago but serves as a good guide to get started)

Here is my 2 pence worth of How to Place an SO. Again.
Hurrah for the magic SO Box which is super helpful.

Step 1) Look at your current collection and decide what is the style you want to request as first priority. I suggest having 2-3 choices just in case. This includes the size and also for Kellys, whether Retourne or Sellier. Consider rarer styles which are not always ordered e.g. The Bolide or Kelly Lakis.

Step 2) Decide on colour and leather. There are now very helpful posters who get to share the current lists offered. Do refer to that on the relevant threads. If you have not been offered an exotic SO, leave that alone. This is tricky because we all know not all colours and leather combinations are offered AND colours look different in various leathers. Please note that the list now remain more or less the same for 2 rounds and only change in AW i.e. around September.

If you insist on colours outside this list there is no guarantee you will get what you what. Not that there is a guarantee with Hermes anyway! There is now only bi-colour options, which makes things a little less complex and a lot more elegant.

Step 3) Choose your hardware and stitch. Please take note that at the moment Rose Gold only for Constance, Birkin, and Kelly Pochette, Kelly Cut and Kelly Danse. but I am very sure if one is patient they will offer it for B/Ks soon. There is PHW, GHW, Brushed PHW, brushed GHW and Permabrass also. Guilloche and Enamel hardware has NEVER been offered for SO.

Stitch colours which are not shown in the SO Box can be offered. This depends on your store and you SA.

Step 4) Decide if you want initials, which is self explanatory. I am not sure if currently the special pockets are still being offered. In the past, we had the option to customise internal pockets or swap them around, e.g. zip or open slot.

After your store places the order, it cannot be changed. At all.
Take note of what you ordered.


After that, the best advice my SA has given me is to forget you ever placed this order. You will not get an confirmation email and unlesss it is cancelled, the store does not know what stage the bag is at. SAs can tell you if it is still in the system which means it is queued and will be made. Then on that magic day, depending where you are, you get an email/ call to collect your magic bag. I think generally one has to collect it personally now. I can only speak from my own experience and I get an email from FSH leather department. They will hold the bag until you visit or you can pay by bank transfer and collect the bag later. Retournes do not arrive faster than Selliers. They just seem that way. Birkins may arrive faster than Kellys. Because Kellys are harder to make. Constances take even longer. Exotics are the worse.

Last piece of advice which I myself forget. Check the bag very carefully when you receive it. In the excitement of finally getting your SO, overcome by the new bag scent and the unboxing, we all forget this.

Congrats on being offered a chance to place your SO. HTH!
 
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Perhaps the quoted post from @periogirl28 might be of help? :smile:
This is really good advice. @periogirl28 should update the details with current changes and maybe more of her extensive personal experience and then maybe it could be made into a stickie? I think hearing it from a long time expert, like you (@Meta) or @periogirl28 could really help some of the newer members find their way. :drinks:
 
I’m in the same quandary as @Notorious Pink ... don’t know what to pick, and I am tempted by Chèvre.

I could have chosen with my eyes closed off the 2020 palette, but this year? :eek::crybaby:

ah, but I did figure it out. There was no way I was going in there not being 99% certain what I was going to order (I do like to ask my SA for advice on one or two things - this time it was strap length, he said that he does not see me ever wearing this bag crossbody). Also, this was the first time ever that DH came with me, and he’s not one for lingering.

so this is what I ordered:

Style: 25cm Kelly Sellier
Leather: Chevre
Version: 3 Multico
Color 1: Rose Sakura
Color 2: Rose Mexico
Stitch: either Rose Sakura or white (a nice pop against the Rose Mexico and no pop against the Sakura)
Hardware: Permabrass (much softer than gold and not so different from RGHW)

I considered a verso with all rose Sakura outside, but for verso the only way to make it stand out is to do a pop contrast stitch, which I don’t love for rose Sakura - I want this to be somewhat elegant. A lighter color won’t show, and a darker color might be too jarring.

I also considered Gris T and Gris Perle for color 2 (love the brume, but baby pink and baby blue may be a bit OTT) but where I am - that’s a summer bag. I want something I can use all year, which the darker pink provides. And also - the gray with pink has been done quite a bit, to me it’s very nice, but just too safe and maybe not “exciting” enough for me.

and finally, I love having the darker handle so I don’t have to worry about it so much, i like twillies but I don’t want to require them. The parts of the bag that I’ll be touching the most will be the handle and strap, which will be the darker color.
 
ah, but I did figure it out. There was no way I was going in there not being 99% certain what I was going to order (I do like to ask my SA for advice on one or two things - this time it was strap length, he said that he does not see me ever wearing this bag crossbody). Also, this was the first time ever that DH came with me, and he’s not one for lingering.

so this is what I ordered:

Style: 25cm Kelly Sellier
Leather: Chevre
Version: 3 Multico
Color 1: Rose Sakura
Color 2: Rose Mexico
Stitch: either Rose Sakura or white (a nice pop against the Rose Mexico and no pop against the Sakura)
Hardware: Permabrass (much softer than gold and not so different from RGHW)

I considered a verso with all rose Sakura outside, but for verso the only way to make it stand out is to do a pop contrast stitch, which I don’t love for rose Sakura - I want this to be somewhat elegant. A lighter color won’t show, and a darker color might be too jarring.

I also considered Gris T and Gris Perle for color 2 (love the brume, but baby pink and baby blue may be a bit OTT) but where I am - that’s a summer bag. I want something I can use all year, which the darker pink provides. And also - the gray with pink has been done quite a bit, to me it’s very nice, but just too safe and maybe not “exciting” enough for me.

and finally, I love having the darker handle so I don’t have to worry about it so much, i like twillies but I don’t want to require them. The parts of the bag that I’ll be touching the most will be the handle and strap, which will be the darker color.
Love!! I’m so excited to see this combo!
 
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