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Since this thread is now huge and the internal links to frequently asked questions no longer work, here is a brief FAQ for newcomers to the Hermes Special Order process.

What are the current choices for "a la carte" Special Order bags?
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What is an Hermes Special Order?
Each year Hermes gives select clients the opportunity to customize a classic bag in a made-to-order a la carte process. This thread is only for bag A La Carte orders (please use the separate threads for watch SOs and shoe SOs). "A la carte", "SO" (special order), and "HSS" (horse shoe stamp) are used interchangeably on this forum.

When is the Special Order season?
Currently, there is one SO season each calendar year, opening around the middle of February and closing when slots run out or the end of December, whichever occurs first. New SO menus are typically leaked in February and remain constant until the following calendar year. Individual stores have complete discretion on when, within this window, they offer SO appointments to their clients.

Which specs can I customize?
Hermes defines which specs can be customized and these specs can change each SO season. Generally these specs include: leather type, leather color, and hardware color. At your SO appointment, your SA will present you will the limited menu of choices including bag types and sizes (Birkin 25, Kelly 28, etc), pre-set combination designs (line, verso, multico, etc), leather choices, leather colors, hardwares, and a map for which options can be selected for which bag type and size. Not all leathers and hardwares are allowed for all bag types and sizes.

Can I make physical changes to a bag definition during SO?
Sometimes clients would like to change a physical aspect of a bag, like increase the handle drop or add a pocket or a strap. Unfortunately, Hermes does not allow any type of alteration to the bag definition during SO. For extensive changes like these, a client would need to pursue a “Horizon order” which can be read about here.

How long will my SO take?
There is no way to predict how long a SO will take from placing the order to receipt of the finished product. Although Hermes has recently put forward efforts to fulfill a la carte orders within a year, it isn’t uncommon for bags to arrive in just a few months or also much longer than the year estimate.

Can my SA give me status my existing SO?
Unfortunately, the info that can be seen by SAs at the local store is very limited. They can generally see if the order is still outstanding (ie hasn’t been cancelled) but do not get status updates beyond that. Some stores will update clients when they get notice that a bag has been shipped from Paris but other stores wait until the bag is physically in store before alerting the client.

Do I need to place a deposit for SO?
In most regions of the world, a deposit is not required for SOs. However, some Asian and Middle Eastern locations do seem to request at least a partial deposit. Deposits may also be required in other regions if the SO selections are very personalized (ie if you have your personal initials hot stamped onto the bag) such that selling the bag to a different client, if the original client declines the bag, would be difficult.

Do I receive confirmation of my SO after placing my order?
In most regions of the world, the client gives their specifications to their SA and that is the last they hear about it until the bag arrives. Paris stores seem to be an exception to this and send the client a confirmation email within a few weeks of placing the order.

Is there a premium for a SO bag?
No, there is no premium price for SO bags. Their price is the same as any other standard stock bag of the same specifications at the time of delivery.

Is my SO a quota bag?
SO bags are generally counted toward a client’s two-bags-per-year limit at the time that the bag is received and paid for. If a client has already maxed out their quota bag allocation for the year, some stores will allow an exception to purchase your SO as a third bag for the year while other stores will require the customer to wait until a new calendar year before receiving the bag. These policies are subject to be changed per store at their convenience so it is always wise to check with your specific SA.

Where can I get ideas for my SO bag?
This thread shows unique combination bags and this thread shows contrasting stitching bags. Please consider posting your bag there once it arrives!

Where can I see historical SO menus?
2024 on post 21,296 page 1420 Feb 7, 2024
2023 on post 19,874 page 1325 Feb 3, 2023
2022 on post 17,729 page 1182 Sept 13, 2021
2021 on post 15,439 page 1030 Aug 16, 2020
2020 on post 13,222 page 882 Aug 8, 2019
2019 on post 10,472 page 699 Sept 10, 2018
2018 on post 7,687 page 513 Sept 15, 2017
2017 on post 4,749 page 317 Sept 26, 2016
 
Interesting discussion of anemone in chèvre vs Epsom. I happen to have both in SLGs and I like both, but to me nothing beats the softness and sheen of chèvre.

Here’re some comparison shots. The first one is more true to color IRL. The second one is how the color looks next to the window with natural light.

EDITED to make it more relevant to this thread: my outstanding SO is K28 Raisin/Anemone chèvre multico :biggrin:

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Interesting discussion of anemone in chèvre vs Epsom. I happen to have both in SLGs and I like both, but to me nothing beats the softness and sheen of chèvre.

Here’re some comparison shots. The first one is more true to color IRL. The second one is how the color looks next to the window with natural light.

EDITED to make it more relevant to this thread: my outstanding SO is K28 Raisin/Anemone chèvre multico :biggrin:

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Super helpful - thank you so much! And your (hopefully soon!) raisin/anemone multico sounds amazing .
 
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I initially wanted to order a K25 swift in Blanc, but the system does not allow for the “Naturel” stitching option which would match white perfectly, and the lightest stitching available is Gris Pale. On a smooth leather such as swift, the stitching is so visible I cannot take that risk. We tried choosing the Line Version first and then the Verso Version (choosing a contrast lining) but the natural stitching option just does not come up in either case, and when my SA wrote to Paris, she was told that the stitching had to be in a contrast color. Some of you have been mentioning tonal stitching, so just to be clear, is there a separate tonal stitching option, just like there is an inverted stitching option? Or by tonal stitching, do you just mean choosing the closest color in tone, to your chosen leather color, from the list of available stitching colors? Such as Celeste stitching on a Bleu du Nord bag? And if that is the case, I fail to understand why such a tonal stitching option is not available for white leather.

Now I have exactly 8 days to figure out what I should order, and instead of a white Kelly with stitching that might look dirty to me, I am inclined to order a Mini Kelly in chèvre mysore leather, but I like soft colors and my dream colors such as Sakura and mauve sylvestre are not available. I also like rose confetti, rose d’ete, and rose Jaipur. However, Rose Lipstick is the lightest pink currently available in chèvre. I am worried that rose lipstick might look somewhat Barbie pink on me. And there is nothing wrong with Barbie pink, just that it is too bold for me. I have yet to see the swatch, and hope they have it at my store. There are so many pictures on IG, but while in some pictures it looks cute, and coral-like, in others rose lipstick looks very loud, and I cannot be sure if it is the filters.

Any insight and guidance would be deeply appreciated. If you already have a bag in Rose Liptick/chèvre, I would love to see pictures in natural light. Do you think it is a bold color? Is it easy to wear in daily life, or does it stand out too much because of the color? I don’t want to buy a neutral Mini Kelly, but I want it to be easy to wear, if that makes sense.

Good luck on all your SOs! Hope we end up loving our bags, and using them in good health:smile: That’s the most important.
 
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I initially wanted to order a K25 swift in Blanc, but the system does not allow for the “Naturel” stitching option which would match white perfectly, and the lightest stitching available is Gris Pale. On a smooth leather such as swift, the stitching is so visible and therefore so significant, I know, because I have the same size kelly in swift in another color and I feel cannot live with the light grey stitching on a pure white Kelly. I cannot take that risk. We tried choosing the Line Version first and then the Verso Version (choosing a contrast lining) but the natural stitching option just does not come up in either case, and when my SA wrote to Paris, she was told that the stitching had to be in a contrast color. Some of you have been mentioning tonal stitching, so just to be clear, is there a separate tonal stitching option, just like there is an inverted stitching option? Or by tonal stitching, do you just mean choosing the closest color in tone, to your chosen leather color, from the list of available stitching colors? Such as Celeste stitching on a Bleu du Nord bag? And if that is the case, I fail to understand why such a tonal stitching option is not available for white leather.

Now I have exactly 8 days to figure out what I should order, and instead of a white Kelly with stitching that might look dirty to me, I am inclined to order a Mini Kelly in chèvre mysore leather, but I like soft colors and my dream colors such as Sakura and mauve sylvestre are not available. I also like rose confetti, rose d’ete, and rose Jaipur- also not available. Rose Lipstick is the lightest pink currently available in chèvre. I am worried that rose lipstick might look somewhat Barbie pink on me. I have yet to see the swatch, and hope they have it at my store. There are so many pictures on IG, but while in some pictures it looks cute, in others rose lipstick looks very loud, and I cannot be sure.

Any insight and guidance would be deeply appreciated. Good luck on all your SOs! Hope we end up loving our bags, and using them in good health:smile: That’s the most important.

Hi, I think a couple of things are going wrong here.
Blanc is not offered in Swift, only in Clémence.
And K25 Retourné is also not an option in Clémence, it’s size 28 up to 35 only.
The choice for Verso version should be made first.
When it comes to stitching, you shouldn’t “choose” the Natural thread. Instead the question is “I would like to personalise the thread colour on the outside of the bag” and the answer/box to be ticked in your case would be “No”. That’s how you get your tone-on-tone stitching, the default thread colour is applied by Hermès.
Guess you have some things to consider, good luck! :flowers:
 
Hi, I think a couple of things are going wrong here.
Blanc is not offered in Swift, only in Clémence.
And K25 Retourné is also not an option in Clémence, it’s size 28 up to 35 only.
The choice for Verso version should be made first.
When it comes to stitching, you shouldn’t “choose” the Natural thread. Instead the question is “I would like to personalise the thread colour on the outside of the bag” and the answer/box to be ticked in your case would be “No”. That’s how you get your tone-on-tone stitching, the default thread colour is applied by Hermès.
Guess you have some things to consider, good luck! :flowers:

When my SA and I looked at the screen together in store, we saw that Blanc was not offered in swift, but Craie was a possibility, and we decided on everything except for the lining color. After choosing rose pourpre as lining in the following days, she called me to inform me that the system allowed for Blanc in swift when she entered the information and sent me a screenshot of the selection and screenshots of the list of the thread colors (other than naturel) to choose from.
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It is strange that the exterior color (Blanc) is not in her screenshot and I will ask to make sure. The same question came to my mind initially, actually.

Regarding the choice of version, what I meant was, because the stitching is so important I was willing to do either Line or Verso, whichever gave the option to natural thread. And so the details were entered all over again a second time to try that out, but my SA said natural was not an option regardless of the Version. I am grateful to learn there is a yes/no option for personalization in threading. I will speak to my SA and hope for the best. Thank you!
 
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So I got the call last thursday! I was so surprised I couldn’t even breathe!
I went to store that same day and chose my new bag.
Now the wait is gonna be super hard, because I am so excited to get my hands on my new super special bag!
I really didn’t think they would ever pick me to go through this process, really.

In case you are wondering about the colour and leather, this bag will be a Birkin 25, in togo. Gris Asphalt on the outside and Rose Mexico on the inside with Rose Extreme stitching. RGHW.

Ths week I started to feel some doubts about the stitching.. that maybe I should've chosen a lighter pink, like Lipstick so it doesnt stand out so much. What do you guys think?

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Congratulations! Grey and pink work so well together - I love the brighter thread choice. So far I have contrast stitching on almost all my SOs and have never regretted it :flowers:
 
When my SA and I looked at the screen together in store, we saw that Blanc was not offered in swift, but Craie was a possibility, and we decided on everything except for the lining color. After choosing rose pourpre as lining in the following days, she called me to inform me that the system allowed for Blanc in swift when she entered the information and sent me a screenshot of the selection and screenshots of the list of the thread colors (other than naturel) to choose from.
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It is strange that the exterior color (Blanc) is not in her screenshot and I will ask to make sure. The same question came to my mind initially, actually.

Regarding the choice of version, what I meant was, because the stitching is so important I was willing to do either Line or Verso, whichever gave the option to natural thread. And so the details were entered all over again a second time to try that out, but my SA said natural was not an option regardless of the Version. I am grateful to learn there is a yes/no option for personalization in threading. I will speak to my SA and hope for the best. Thank you!
I agree with @Angelian that Blanc Swift is not an option, maybe your SA is seeing Beton. Regardless, even if the system for some reason allows the SA to enter Blanc, I would brace myself for a follow up call from
Paris in a few weeks/months saying it was rejected and you need to make a different choice. (Plus ensuing delays)
From what I can gather, you would like a K25 retourne in as “clean” of a white exterior appearance as possible. Given the other specs you’ve mentioned, your SA should be inputting:
Kelly 25 Retourne. Verso Version. Swift Leather. Craie Exterior color. Rose Pourpre Interior color. Tonal stitching. Polished Gold Hardward. Standard strap length. And then whatever your monogram selections were.
The key words are “Verso” and “Tonal Stitching” which will give it the default production stitching that comes with craie.
 
I agree with @Angelian that Blanc Swift is not an option, maybe your SA is seeing Beton. Regardless, even if the system for some reason allows the SA to enter Blanc, I would brace myself for a follow up call from
Paris in a few weeks/months saying it was rejected and you need to make a different choice. (Plus ensuing delays)
From what I can gather, you would like a K25 retourne in as “clean” of a white exterior appearance as possible. Given the other specs you’ve mentioned, your SA should be inputting:
Kelly 25 Retourne. Verso Version. Swift Leather. Craie Exterior color. Rose Pourpre Interior color. Tonal stitching. Polished Gold Hardward. Standard strap length. And then whatever your monogram selections were.
The key words are “Verso” and “Tonal Stitching” which will give it the default production stitching that comes with craie.

I certainly would not want my SA to get that call from Paris, and it is possible, because blanc just wasn’t offered in swift in the first place. My daughter thinks this is a sign that I must go for the Mini Kelly. I have been wanting one for a while. And so has she:) Thank you so much for these suggestions, because stitching is a decision that will come up no matter what I opt for.
 
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I just asked this today and was told they discontinued the matte croc bubblegum 5p cuz they were having difficulty with ensuring even dye of this color. I wept real tears upon hearing this because that was my number 1 mini Kelly wish

Are you quite sure about this? Did you hear it directly from the staff at Hermes boutique? I am just curious about the source of the info. I really, really love the 5P Bubblegum pink in matte croc. It looks absolutely divine in the sun! It's such a gorgeous but understated combination and a perfect match for white Summer clothes. I've only seen in once IRL but for some reason, I especially love it on women with extremely short, edgy haircuts :)

I am very torn between 5P in matte croc and Rose Sheherazade in shiny croc. Love them both for different reasons. It would be so sad if they stopped making the 5P pink :(
 
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Just some amazing choices...
Still undecided :)
 

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Are you quite sure about this? Did you hear it directly from the staff at Hermes boutique? I am just curious about the source of the info. I really, really love the 5P Bubblegum pink in matte croc. It looks absolutely divine in the sun! It's such a gorgeous but understated combination and a perfect match for white Summer clothes. I've only seen in once IRL but for some reason, I especially love it on women with extremely short, edgy haircuts :smile:

I am very torn between 5P in matte croc and Rose Sheherazade in shiny croc. Love them both for different reasons. It would be so sad if they stopped making the 5P pink :sad:

I was also told the same. 5P matte croc no longer available for SO.
 
Are you quite sure about this? Did you hear it directly from the staff at Hermes boutique? I am just curious about the source of the info. I really, really love the 5P Bubblegum pink in matte croc. It looks absolutely divine in the sun! It's such a gorgeous but understated combination and a perfect match for white Summer clothes. I've only seen in once IRL but for some reason, I especially love it on women with extremely short, edgy haircuts :smile:

I am very torn between 5P in matte croc and Rose Sheherazade in shiny croc. Love them both for different reasons. It would be so sad if they stopped making the 5P pink :sad:
Yes, directly from my SA and the resident leather expert at the Madison store confirmed. Soooo sad! My favorite color as well
 
7 Months, 10 days. B30 Craie and Gris Asphalt Bicolor Togo with BPHW. I couldn’t believe it came so fast...it was a pandemic baby!!! Thank you @Txoceangirl for your help in designing my Cray Cray Stunning new addition!!!

а a gorgeous combination
When I asked for a bicolour bag and wanted only handles and front stripes were different, I got a negative answer and had to agree for sides in the same colour like handles and front stripes.
 
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