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Since this thread is now huge and the internal links to frequently asked questions no longer work, here is a brief FAQ for newcomers to the Hermes Special Order process.

What are the current choices for "a la carte" Special Order bags?
Current color charts Page 1529 Post 22,934 February 16, 2025
Most Recently Known Selection Definitions (bag types, sizes, combos) Sept 4, 2021 - Probably out of date
Thread Choices for stitching. - Probably out of date
Lucky Symbols for stamping.


What is an Hermes Special Order?
Each year Hermes gives select clients the opportunity to customize a classic bag in a made-to-order a la carte process. This thread is only for bag A La Carte orders (please use the separate threads for watch SOs and shoe SOs). "A la carte", "SO" (special order), and "HSS" (horse shoe stamp) are used interchangeably on this forum.

When is the Special Order season?
Currently, there is one SO season each calendar year, opening around the middle of February and closing when slots run out or the end of December, whichever occurs first. New SO menus are typically leaked in February and remain constant until the following calendar year. Individual stores have complete discretion on when, within this window, they offer SO appointments to their clients.

Which specs can I customize?
Hermes defines which specs can be customized and these specs can change each SO season. Generally these specs include: leather type, leather color, and hardware color. At your SO appointment, your SA will present you will the limited menu of choices including bag types and sizes (Birkin 25, Kelly 28, etc), pre-set combination designs (line, verso, multico, etc), leather choices, leather colors, hardwares, and a map for which options can be selected for which bag type and size. Not all leathers and hardwares are allowed for all bag types and sizes.

Can I make physical changes to a bag definition during SO?
Sometimes clients would like to change a physical aspect of a bag, like increase the handle drop or add a pocket or a strap. Unfortunately, Hermes does not allow any type of alteration to the bag definition during SO. For extensive changes like these, a client would need to pursue a “Horizon order” which can be read about here.

How long will my SO take?
There is no way to predict how long a SO will take from placing the order to receipt of the finished product. Although Hermes has recently put forward efforts to fulfill a la carte orders within a year, it isn’t uncommon for bags to arrive in just a few months or also much longer than the year estimate.

Can my SA give me status my existing SO?
Unfortunately, the info that can be seen by SAs at the local store is very limited. They can generally see if the order is still outstanding (ie hasn’t been cancelled) but do not get status updates beyond that. Some stores will update clients when they get notice that a bag has been shipped from Paris but other stores wait until the bag is physically in store before alerting the client.

Do I need to place a deposit for SO?
In most regions of the world, a deposit is not required for SOs. However, some Asian and Middle Eastern locations do seem to request at least a partial deposit. Deposits may also be required in other regions if the SO selections are very personalized (ie if you have your personal initials hot stamped onto the bag) such that selling the bag to a different client, if the original client declines the bag, would be difficult.

Do I receive confirmation of my SO after placing my order?
In most regions of the world, the client gives their specifications to their SA and that is the last they hear about it until the bag arrives. Paris stores seem to be an exception to this and send the client a confirmation email within a few weeks of placing the order.

Is there a premium for a SO bag?
No, there is no premium price for SO bags. Their price is the same as any other standard stock bag of the same specifications at the time of delivery.

Is my SO a quota bag?
SO bags are generally counted toward a client’s two-bags-per-year limit at the time that the bag is received and paid for. If a client has already maxed out their quota bag allocation for the year, some stores will allow an exception to purchase your SO as a third bag for the year while other stores will require the customer to wait until a new calendar year before receiving the bag. These policies are subject to be changed per store at their convenience so it is always wise to check with your specific SA.

Where can I get ideas for my SO bag?
This thread shows unique combination bags and this thread shows contrasting stitching bags. Please consider posting your bag there once it arrives!

Where can I see historical SO menus?
2024 on post 21,296 page 1420 Feb 7, 2024
2023 on post 19,874 page 1325 Feb 3, 2023
2022 on post 17,729 page 1182 Sept 13, 2021
2021 on post 15,439 page 1030 Aug 16, 2020
2020 on post 13,222 page 882 Aug 8, 2019
2019 on post 10,472 page 699 Sept 10, 2018
2018 on post 7,687 page 513 Sept 15, 2017
2017 on post 4,749 page 317 Sept 26, 2016
 
Hi all,

Please let me know if there is already an existing thread but I was offered a Special Order and am extremely excited!! Since this may be my one and only chance, I want to use this opportunity to create something that doesn't often come around. However, I do have my limits. For example, I'm not planning to do exotics. I'm considering either a K25 sellier or retourne. Which is more uncommon?

I heard that the chevre leather is uncommon for K25. How does that leather hold up?

Any examples of a solid exterior color with contrast stitching?

Any thoughts/advice you can give will be extremely appreciated! Thank you!!
 
This is the absolute best advice you can have. 456 pages of intel and everything you need.

 
Hi anyone has tips how to get offered second SO? Can you share 2nd SO experience? Thankyou. Appreciate it
I politely asked as well as expressed extreme interest in a color not available except via SO
I second what @wearawishbone said. I asked for an SO only color and a small size (which is hard to come by in my store). Just placed my second SO last week!
 
Do you discuss tPF with your SA? When I placed my SO, my SA asked if I knew what I wanted before she even told me what was available. I said that I had a few ideas. She replied "Oh because I guess it was all leaked on tPF! I had a client on her phone the other day looking at what was available!" I just avoided the topic but I was surprised that someone was so obvious about it. I should add that my store is very strict and wouldn't allow any pictures of the SO box or the swatches or anything!
 
Thanks for your reply; actually, FSH and I have been exchanging emails for a while and just wanted additional insight.

I did receive an email mid June and that went to my junk box but they sent a followup email in August stating that it will be put up for sale Aug 15; that was the email which I received and replied.

They agreed to hold onto the bag until the end of the year because of COVID but will reevaluate the circumstances when time comes as cases are still very high in France.

They did send me photos of the bag which is very lovely.

I also asked if it would be possible for them to send the bag to my home store in Vancouver, Canada but they said they cannot export leather products.

The reason I posted once again in the forum was because I just wanted to know if anyone had any experiences of FSH being flexible in that they were able to ship the product home because of extenuating circumstances.

Of course, the best option would be to go in person should there be no global pandemic
It has in the past been possible for Paris stores to ship leather to clients who have a house account and who have wired funds to that account. The good news is shipping charges are either waived or offset by no VAT charged.
I haven't done this in a couple years so it may have changed, but worth asking.
US customs will charge very high duties on shipped items (much higher than entering in person); since Canada has a different duty arrangement with the EU that hopefully won't be the case. In my case it would cost less for me to fly to Paris and pick up a B/K or equivalent than to pay import duty on a shipment :sad:
If you can arrange shipment, check with your customs :flowers:

ETA: at least for me the links to the bag do not work
 
It has in the past been possible for Paris stores to ship leather to clients who have a house account and who have wired funds to that account. The good news is shipping charges are either waived or offset by no VAT charged.
I haven't done this in a couple years so it may have changed, but worth asking.
US customs will charge very high duties on shipped items (much higher than entering in person); since Canada has a different duty arrangement with the EU that hopefully won't be the case. In my case it would cost less for me to fly to Paris and pick up a B/K or equivalent than to pay import duty on a shipment :sad:
If you can arrange shipment, check with your customs :flowers:

ETA: at least for me the links to the bag do not work

Thanks for the info!

Maybe the policy changed or is it a case by case basis since this is what they said:

"Due to the current situation, we can keep your order until end of the year (2020). Unfortunately we are not allowed to ship leather goods."

Do you think it would be better to ask my local SA to see if they can liaise with FSH if they can send it over or it'll be a lost cause since they already said they cannot ship it. However, this was back in August when they said it
 
It has in the past been possible for Paris stores to ship leather to clients who have a house account and who have wired funds to that account. The good news is shipping charges are either waived or offset by no VAT charged.
I haven't done this in a couple years so it may have changed, but worth asking.
US customs will charge very high duties on shipped items (much higher than entering in person); since Canada has a different duty arrangement with the EU that hopefully won't be the case. In my case it would cost less for me to fly to Paris and pick up a B/K or equivalent than to pay import duty on a shipment :sad:
If you can arrange shipment, check with your customs :flowers:

ETA: at least for me the links to the bag do not work

Fixed links!
 
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Thanks for the info!

Maybe the policy changed or is it a case by case basis since this is what they said:

"Due to the current situation, we can keep your order until end of the year (2020). Unfortunately we are not allowed to ship leather goods."

Do you think it would be better to ask my local SA to see if they can liaise with FSH if they can send it over or it'll be a lost cause since they already said they cannot ship it. However, this was back in August when they said it
Everything H is case by case lol :)

Are Canadians allowed in? US residents (even those with additional non US passports like me) aren't, so French stores are holding indefinitely (I hope, argh). I would ask your SA, since Covid seems to not be going away; if they say no and if you can get there, I would try :)
 
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Everything H is case by case lol :smile:

Are Canadians allowed in? US residents (even those with additional non US passports like me) aren't, so French stores are holding indefinitely (I hope, argh). I would ask your SA, since Covid seems to not be going away; if they say no and if you can get there, I would try :smile:

Canadians are allowed in with no restriction but when I placed my order, I was studying and living in New York so I gave them a US address; they have a Canadian passport on file so I'm not sure which they're basing it on
 
Do you discuss tPF with your SA? When I placed my SO, my SA asked if I knew what I wanted before she even told me what was available. I said that I had a few ideas. She replied "Oh because I guess it was all leaked on tPF! I had a client on her phone the other day looking at what was available!" I just avoided the topic but I was surprised that someone was so obvious about it. I should add that my store is very strict and wouldn't allow any pictures of the SO box or the swatches or anything!

Yes, my SA knows about tPF and she even knows a few of my friends from here! My SA was okay with me taking pics of the SO box and swatches. My one complaint was that the SO box was missing some current SO season swatches that I was interested in. I also felt a bit rushed because of the restricted appointment slot times due to the COVID procedures but that is understandable.

In all my selection was this: B30 in chevre. Bleu electrique outside, gris perle inside, canari stitching all over, and brushed palladium hardware.

And now the wait begins.
 
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