Scarves Hermès Scarf Identification

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Here's one that reeks fake, currently on eBay:

Item title: Genuine Hermes Cashmere Scrave (sic)Seller: radhamom
Item number: 290274674398
link: http://cgi.ebay.com/Genuine-Hermes-Cashmere-Scrave_W0QQitemZ290274674398QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item290274674398&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A4|65%3A10|39%3A1|240%3A1318

Very bad photos, two labels - one says Hermes Paris, the other something about Nepal (hard to read)

I am just learning about Hermes silks (can't afford the cashmeres so haven't gotten into them...sigh) but even to a newbie like me this one looks very bad. Am I right? Thx


Actually, it's authentic. Hermes do have some cashmere scarves made by local artisans in Nepal.
 
HELP ! can Seton or another specialist help here :

http://cgi.befr.ebay.be/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=280283960258

Item : blue Gronland with two darker dogs in front team than the one recently sold:

also blue but perhaps darker blue cw (???).
http://cgi.befr.ebay.be/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&item=180304330648 than looked like the real used mccoy.

The first seller sent me pics in which the copyright behind the boat was exactly the same, and brand new with perfect box, bolduc, lining paper : flawless. Too new ??

I cannot judge on feedbacks : one veteran seller and this last preoccupying one, a one time H seller.

One is fake ? I know that by some details it could be seen but the dogs, or what else ??? HELP !!! Unfortunately, sale ends very soon...

THANK YOU !
 
How about showing me the pics from the first seller? How am I suppose to go from that one picture?

I dont read French. Is Aquarelle stating that her scarf is from 1982? Her scarf looks like a 1990s version to me.

Anyway, IF BOTH SCARVES ARE AUTHENTIC . . . .
then yes, they are two different colorways. Gronland has been done so often that there are well over 30 different colorways of it in existence.
 
How about showing me the pics from the first seller? How am I suppose to go from that one picture?

I dont read French. Is Aquarelle stating that her scarf is from 1982? Her scarf looks like a 1990s version to me.

Anyway, IF BOTH SCARVES ARE AUTHENTIC . . . .
then yes, they are two different colorways. Gronland has been done so often that there are well over 30 different colorways of it in existence.


I think that the seller is saying that the design first came out in 1982, not that the scarf is from 1982. I agree that the 2nd one looks like a new edition.
 
yes, two diff cws - one has a brown dog - the other does not

IMHO, I would not go looking for scarves on Ebay France
- unless, you speak French & can ask these questions directly, since they are important to you, but, see if the seller speaks English..
- AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, Ebay is tightening up & is no longer allowing bidding on overseas auctions, unless the seller has specifically authorized overseas sales , don't wait to the last minute to see that you are shut out
- IMHO, many European scarves do not meet standards for US buyers, due to perfume or cigarette smells, runs etc


contrefaçons;8662148 said:
HELP ! can Seton or another specialist help here :

http://cgi.befr.ebay.be/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=280283960258

Item : blue Gronland with two darker dogs in front team than the one recently sold:

also blue but perhaps darker blue cw (???).
http://cgi.befr.ebay.be/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&item=180304330648 than looked like the real used mccoy.

The first seller sent me pics in which the copyright behind the boat was exactly the same, and brand new with perfect box, bolduc, lining paper : flawless. Too new ??

I cannot judge on feedbacks : one veteran seller and this last preoccupying one, a one time H seller.

One is fake ? I know that by some details it could be seen but the dogs, or what else ??? HELP !!! Unfortunately, sale ends very soon...

THANK YOU !
 
Marietouchet
IMHO, many European scarves do not meet standards for US buyers, due to perfume or cigarette smells, runs etc

Thank you for that info as it is so important! I agree that we folks in the US can have some unrealistic expectations and think that preowned means new!
 
Thank you Seton, Marie Touchet and Gracekelly. I really appreciate your help.
First, I'm a newbie who tried like hell to post the pics she sent me by mail : no way (and a headache !), when I thought it would pass : no way, they were too heavy...
Help for the next time ?
They looked perfect, even the texture of the "papier de soie".

The sale has ended, no buyers.
The boy's pants were also another color along with his sweater. I tried to look in the house of scarves photos, there would have been a "dark" blue and "medium" blue but no light blue, which I am sure has been issued. Of course this is no authentification...

Living in Europe, I find the biggest variety of scarves in ebay.fr or .de (.UK has a bad reputation here for perfect fakes) : this with all the potential fakes and god knows I just had a good one, almost lost my dispute with Paypal due to their irrealistic demand of proof. This is long story, but to cut it short, they only accept a fax-sent affidavit from the Paris Service Juridique, Propriété Intellectuelle, meaning that you have to bring it (sending a fake by mail is punishable) in Paris, even if you dont live in France. This is really the first step to slowly ban any H sale on Ebay, due to the lawsuit LVMH just won over EB (actually appeal is pending). The ban is already effective for Dior perfumes and other subsidiairies of LVMH. Anyhow, no H retail store is authorized to authenticate their goods, only the Paris Head Office...

So, anyway, buying here is russian roulette -french is no problem, on the contrary, I'm losing my english (!), and that shows you the importance of your help, unvaluable- but the prices abroad (for me = out of Europe) are definitely higher AND customs add a beautifull 25% vat, plus a custom fee. All this goes higher than the store price. Of course, when addicted (I confess), no other way to find your grail(s). Selling here reaches also lower prices (all-in-all lower incomes).

I bidded on the Aquarelle, comparing with a beautiful light beige -pinkish mother-of-pearl one I have, sure to be authentic: it has the "s" on it , it was similar but I did not see the care tag, hopefully I might see it. I think also she meant the date of issue, not purchase. All I know is that this pattern has been joyfully copied...

Again, so many thanks to each and everyone of you specialists for your time and concern to help us, the addicts.

:sunshine::sunshine::urock:
 
Actually, it's authentic. Hermes do have some cashmere scarves made by local artisans in Nepal.

thx Seton, there's a lot to learn and every time I come on the forum I pick up more valuable info. The label thing is very confusing!

It is really great of you and the other experts to answer all these questions. It is a shame that these beautiful things are being ripped off by people who use deceit to making a buck.
 

elle tee, I find these three websites very helpful when checking out the designs
(just thought you'd enjoy them too when trying to identify patterns):

http://hermesology.wordpress.com/ (by seton)

http://www.luxury-scarves.com/en/10_database/index.php

http://www.hsci.hermesscarf.com/search.php?cmd=new


Yes, that is an authtentic carre. 1973 is given as the first year of issue.

CobaltBlu, so besides the design being actually issued by H, you confirm that H in fact used these types of care tags back then? Just want to double check... :shame: TIA!

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Actually, in my post about Ebay France, I made a terrible mistake & accept my apologies

I ASSUMED that an ENglish speaker, like yourself, must be in the USA, what was I thinking ??? :tdown:
 
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