Scarves Hermès Carrés d’art lV: Classic Scarves- edits & discussion

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#21
Toile d’H (I have seen it called Toile d’Hermes) is missing. There have been multiple stoles in that design (I have two mousseline ones and one in taffeta silk). I know there was a mousseline one with a silk fringe as well, and probably more. Not sure re: author and / or year.

It is similar in style to the 1963 Toile de Jouy (and clearly inspired by the toile de jouy style), but it is a different scarf.
 
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#23
Some wishlist items: I would love to see the following indicated:
- Waterproof scarves as mentioned above
- Mousseline versions of scarves (at least when 140cm mousselines were available)
- Jacquards (there were not that many, after all).

I know of a lot of special edition scarves missing from the 3rd edition, but I assume many of them will be listed in the dedicated book.
 
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#24
turfnsurf said:
(from SOTD thread):

I think Sp.Ed.s proved so problematic in CAlll that prompted author to create a separate volume to, hopefully, get things right. From what I understand she has access to H’s records (thus the ‘rename’ of a few designs), which as I further understand to be somewhat chaotic, soooo info might not be completely accurate or definitive?

I read in Forward of CAlV that she’s created a “trilogy” this time around with one volume dedicated to Sp.Issues and third for Limited Editions (though a couple appear in CA4 for some reason). So far I’ve been unable to locate these other 2 volumes and author neglected to answer that question when I emailed her about another topic. :shrugs:
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Special / limited editions are super hard. For example, I think they have been doing one for pretty much each boutique in Asia, of which there are many. And I have always heard Hermes is not great at keeping records. Curious to see what those books will be like.
 
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turfnsurf said:
With the release of Carrés d’art lV (CA4) comes some inevitable discovery of typos, errors, omissions, etc. The Forward states that CA4 will be done in a trilogy: Classic Scarves, Limited Editions, and Special Issues. As far as I know we only have Classic Scarves to date, so starting this thread with that in mind.

I thought this might be a great place to share observations and corrections with each other on our quest towards total scarf-enlightenment :pray:

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Appreciate this new thread. Just got my book from https://en.arfon-maisondedition.com/
the site lists the other editions as “forthcoming”
Carrés d'art - Carrés Hermès Limited editions, Carrés d'art - Carrés Hermès Special issues
by Geneviève Fontan
 
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AnnaE said:
Toile d’H (I have seen it called Toile d’Hermes) is missing. There have been multiple stoles in that design (I have two mousseline ones and one in taffeta silk). I know there was a mousseline one with a silk fringe as well, and probably more. Not sure re: author and / or year.

It is similar in style to the 1963 Toile de Jouy (and clearly inspired by the toile de jouy style), but it is a different scarf.
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Oooh, thnx, I didn’t know this!

AnnaE said:
Some wishlist items: I would love to see the following indicated:
- Waterproof scarves as mentioned above
- Mousseline versions of scarves (at least when 140cm mousselines were available)
- Jacquards (there were not that many, after all).

I know of a lot of special edition scarves missing from the 3rd edition, but I assume many of them will be listed in the dedicated book.
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Agree on the Sp.Issues. Wonder what parameters designate Limited Editions?

Can we add Plisse distinction also to wish list?:biggrin:
 
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turfnsurf said:
Oooh, thnx, I didn’t know this!


Agree on the Sp.Issues. Wonder what parameters designate Limited Editions?

Can we add Plisse distinction also to wish list?:biggrin:
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Plisse would be hard since any scarf could have been plissed after being manufactured.

I am adding the explanation from the book, although it doesn’t really make things clearer. I would have expected both types to be merged into one book.
 

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#30
I am so new to hermes scarf collecting that the whole limited and special edition scarves isn’t fully indexed in my brain. But I did take notes while looking through the book. I now realize some that I noted might be considered limited or special. Or it might be that they were not in classic 90’s format maybe. I probably don’t know enough.
*The Marble Balade en Berline. Maybe Not mentioned because a 75. Book has the first marble silk.
* Brides de Gala Fleuri
* BdG Love. I have twilly so maybe not done larger.
*My Arms of the United States has a special edition not listed in code ( as I mentioned) In 1976.
* not sure if a classic size was done - Coup de fouet au bloc. ( I have a 140)
* double sided not mentioned I don’t think.
*Early America special edition for chicago museum of art was it?
*Promenade a Versailles ( prob just a “special edition” Saved for special edition book?
*jardin enchante Had a special issue for Central Park so prob saved for other book
* I assume Perspective is from 2019 or 2020 to still be on the Hermes website yet not mentioned on the book listing.
That’s all I had notes on.
 
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