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By the way when I bought my Tyran Rose pair I didn't know she was a doctor. Only learned that later. Then it seemed to make sense to me that why her shoes are good for walking around. She was a orthopedic surgeon.
 
See, I don't think I actually covey the *****iness that dwells inside me. Some might disagree. But I'd like to be able to say it without words. [emoji23]

Onto another topic. I need help from some of our more fashion forward edgy members. I am wondering what you think of these shoes versus heavy loafers as a comfortable pair of walking shoes to wear with jeans pants or even tights and a skirt.

http://www.scarosso.com/en/women/sh...NKBLAPOLI.html?cgid=women-shoes-monks#start=1

*** I am not fashion forward - can I play, too? (if not, disregard) ***

I think they're a great pair of shoes. They look fantastic.I have seen monks/brogues/oxford a lot this season, worn with wide legged pants - very Katherine Hepburn - or with ankle pants.

Since you specify "walking shoes" and "even with tights and a skirt" I would like to make a couple of observations, if I may.

- the weight: personally I think that for walking a lot, shoes with a rubber sole and lighter in weight work best. I have a pair of Churches' brogues that are built like tanks, but that also feel as if I'm wearing tanks around my feet when I walk. I wouldn't want to use them for extensive walking. Of course, when I say "walk" I think about a whole day of sightseeing in Paris, for instance :smile:

- the raise on the foot. I find that to be flattering, the shoes can raise on the foot up to a point. What this point is depends a lot on the shape of the foot and leg, therefore is very personal. If it was me, I'd like to try them on before assuming that they look good with tights and a skirt. Since there is no modeling picture, it is hard to figure out.

Said that, from the "fashion" point of view, they are gorgeous.
 
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I support this; there is a big difference between people who decide to use the RBF as a posture and those who - for some mix of physical features - end up with it. Being disliked for just being is not a pleasant experience.

I actually agree with this completely, MadMadCat. It's just that my response to it is that people should stop judging others based on their resting facial expression, rather than that those with a somber resting facial expression should worry about adjusting it to make it more acceptable or cheery or what have you. The latter approach seems to me a bit of a slippery slope that begins with women being told to "smile" and ends with the idea that any female person over a size 6 needs to wear black muumuus exclusively. However, I acknowledge that some snap judgments based on elements of appearance are inevitable, so we each need to decide what we want to present to the great unwashed. :p
 
PbP. MadMadCat's shoe review was spot-on. The style is neat and chic and close to timeless, but whether they would work as well with a skirt as with trousers does depend on one's gams. I, the owner of rather trunk-like gams, am particularly obsessive about this.
 
cremel, weather-related adjustments to travel are miserable, but hopefully your advance knowledge will help you avoid too much of a hassle during the actual trip. Hoping the necessary changes can be smoothly arranged.
 
I actually agree with this completely, MadMadCat. It's just that my response to it is that people should stop judging others based on their resting facial expression, rather than that those with a somber resting facial expression should worry about adjusting it to make it more acceptable or cheery or what have you. The latter approach seems to me a bit of a slippery slope that begins with women being told to "smile" and ends with the idea that any female person over a size 6 needs to wear black muumuus exclusively. However, I acknowledge that some snap judgments based on elements of appearance are inevitable, so we each need to decide what we want to present to the great unwashed. :p

We have (humans) have been trained by hundreds of thousands of years of experience to make a judgement about someone in the first few seconds. I think it will take at least a few thousand years to change that.
 
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cremel, weather-related adjustments to travel are miserable, but hopefully your advance knowledge will help you avoid too much of a hassle during the actual trip. Hoping the necessary changes can be smoothly arranged.

Thank you very much Midi.

I found this cafe extremely friendly and cozy. I value all your advices and your caring.

Hopefully one day I will be able to meet some of you in person. [emoji173]️[emoji173]️
 
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*** I am not fashion forward - can I play, too? (if not, disregard) ***

I think they're a great pair of shoes. They look fantastic.I have seen monks/brogues/oxford a lot this season, worn with wide legged pants - very Katherine Hepburn - or with ankle pants.

Since you specify "walking shoes" and "even with tights and a skirt" I would like to make a couple of observations, if I may.

- the weight: personally I think that for walking a lot, shoes with a rubber sole and lighter in weight work best. I have a pair of Churches' brogues that are built like tanks, but that also feel as if I'm wearing tanks around my feet when I walk. I wouldn't want to use them for extensive walking. Of course, when I say "walk" I think about a whole day of sightseeing in Paris, for instance :smile:

- the raise on the foot. I find that to be flattering, the shoes can raise on the foot up to a point. What this point is depends a lot on the shape of the foot and leg, therefore is very personal. If it was me, I'd like to try them on before assuming that they look good with tights and a skirt. Since there is no modeling picture, it is hard to figure out.

Said that, from the "fashion" point of view, they are gorgeous.

PbP. MadMadCat's shoe review was spot-on. The style is neat and chic and close to timeless, but whether they would work as well with a skirt as with trousers does depend on one's gams. I, the owner of rather trunk-like gams, am particularly obsessive about this.

Thanks for the reviews ladies. I think I'm going to need to play a bit and see what works. Will report back.
 
We have (humans) have been trained by hundreds of thousands of years of experience to make a judgement about someone in the first few seconds. I think it will take at least a few thousand years to change that.

True. I am a believer in evolutionary psychology, which indisputably is grounded in survival benefits and is certainly relevant even in the present day. Yet such innate instincts are ultimately encoded and practiced at the cultural level, and social constructs do change. Until very recently--in human evolutionary terms--strong emotion evinced by a woman was frequently dismissed as evidence of gender-specific "hysteria." I am not over-optimistic about the power of my one voice crying in the wilderness, but I am not alone, and we gals can vote now, and wear trousers, and everything! :p So I'll just keep baying at the moon. A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step. Or perhaps with a few very stubborn and mouthy people.
 
Hi Cafe,

I'm super busy today but find the RBF interesting. I have possessed this face since age 4 according to my parents and think that it inaccurately conveys my demeanor though I am not particularly friendly or outgoing either. I'm generally skeptical and guarded but not in an unpleasant way I don't think. I'm quite personable when it's the right situation.

I do find it to be unfairly ascribed to women only, the whole issue of men telling me to "smile" on command because they find my RBF difficult to deal with is an example of how I see it as feminist issue. Have any of us ever told a surly looking dude to give us a grin? When I was younger and the world was different I would occasionally make those men pay by bursting into tears and telling them some horrible tragic tale of loss and how could they demand that I smile in such a state. I like to think that they reconsidered the command in the future. Now I don't say anything at all but I don't smile and I have a fairly strong DFWM perimeter happening due to living in cities my whole life.

In my city there has been a public art movement about stopping the "smile" command and it seems to be having an impact on the younger community so that's great! Ok, must go back to the grind with my b!tch face on even though I'm in a good mood, tired but good.
 
I am laughing at the image of you doing a Lemony Snicket and detailing your catastrophic day to those men, MrsO. "And then the car EXPLODED and I was thrown clear, but the winds fanned the flames and they jumped to my HOUSE, so I had to run in to save my grandma and her OXYGEN tank, but now myself and the other orphans are HOMELESS. . . . How can I SMILE?!"
 
Hi Cafe,

I'm super busy today but find the RBF interesting. I have possessed this face since age 4 according to my parents and think that it inaccurately conveys my demeanor though I am not particularly friendly or outgoing either. I'm generally skeptical and guarded but not in an unpleasant way I don't think. I'm quite personable when it's the right situation.

I do find it to be unfairly ascribed to women only, the whole issue of men telling me to "smile" on command because they find my RBF difficult to deal with is an example of how I see it as feminist issue. Have any of us ever told a surly looking dude to give us a grin? When I was younger and the world was different I would occasionally make those men pay by bursting into tears and telling them some horrible tragic tale of loss and how could they demand that I smile in such a state. I like to think that they reconsidered the command in the future. Now I don't say anything at all but I don't smile and I have a fairly strong DFWM perimeter happening due to living in cities my whole life.

In my city there has been a public art movement about stopping the "smile" command and it seems to be having an impact on the younger community so that's great! Ok, must go back to the grind with my b!tch face on even though I'm in a good mood, tired but good.

Glad you are having a good week. Hope your work is going well and is enjoyable.
 
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