We have veered off the topic of blacklisting, but feel free to start another thread in General Shopping to talk about retailers reselling their own brands. Its a good topic!! 
Hermes Blacklist?
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I wonder whether This new focus on resellers and blacklisting will affect big $$$ resellers such as Prive Porter and JaneFinds. I have never used either of those companies to buy or to sell.
Somehow, these firms obtain collector bags regularly.
Somehow, these firms obtain collector bags regularly.
I doubt it since the agreement is between the original purchaser and the company. Third parties such as PP and JanesFinds get their merchandise from private individuals and have no “terms of service” agreement with H themselves. In other words, if H could somehow discover who was selling to those companies, they could blacklist those individuals, but they would have very little legal standing to halt the consignors from selling Whatever they can get their hands on.
I was thinking about PP’s and JF’s future pipeline of bags. If H has “detectives” scouring eBay, FB and Instagram looking for small fish like the OP, it would be logical to assume they are looking at bigger fish as well.
I'm all for Hermes clients being able to buy preloved bags through sites like FP,ReBag, Vestiere etc because it gives people like me who really dont have the budget to spend £10.000+ on a bag the opportunity to buy their dream bag.
However I am vehemently against those who buy bnib quota bags and other H items solely to flip and sell making a huge profit.
especially as by doing so I feel they are robbing the honest Hermes customers of a chance to buy something on their wishlist at the list price.
However I am vehemently against those who buy bnib quota bags and other H items solely to flip and sell making a huge profit.
especially as by doing so I feel they are robbing the honest Hermes customers of a chance to buy something on their wishlist at the list price.
I just want to say this thread has been so fascinating. I never knew that reselling was prohibited. Always learning something new.
They're kind of cutting off their own nose to spite their face if they get too aggressive about reselling. Making a Birkin, or whatever, functionally valueless, or at least not able to increase in value in any significant way, will turn off a lot of "investment" buyers.
It seems to me that buying online and immediately listing something for sale is very different from buying something and figuring out well past the return period that it's not for you, then reselling it.
There are coveted items like Mini Lindys online, and folks using bots to buy them, and it seems likely that many of those buyers are reselling at a markup. If I'm H, I don't want those buyers. Same with instore. If I want a Mini Lindy I can get one, but if I then turned around and sold it BNIB for $9-10K or more, I would expect my SA and SM to be absolutely furious, and at best I doubt I'd ever get a coveted bag again.
It would be very easy to build a tool that tracks sales online and then searches the web for those items in those specs at resale within a specific time period. It's possible Hermès does that.
There are coveted items like Mini Lindys online, and folks using bots to buy them, and it seems likely that many of those buyers are reselling at a markup. If I'm H, I don't want those buyers. Same with instore. If I want a Mini Lindy I can get one, but if I then turned around and sold it BNIB for $9-10K or more, I would expect my SA and SM to be absolutely furious, and at best I doubt I'd ever get a coveted bag again.
It would be very easy to build a tool that tracks sales online and then searches the web for those items in those specs at resale within a specific time period. It's possible Hermès does that.
Agree but also these brands make returning look/feel like a very bad thing to do and penalise you for it.
Not saying that’s what happened with me but it’s definitely one of the reasons why I briefly put the bag up coz it would have meant not having a ‘mark’ on my profile for returning a bag.
I will provide an update on my situation as it’s still in progress.
I know H don’t blacklist you if you sell bags you just don’t like anymore or just to rethink your collection.
I told my Sa that I don’t like some of my bags anymore and that they just don’t fit in my collection anymore and somehow regret buying them.
She told me to sell them.
She didn’t tell me where to sell them or at what maximum price.
But I know if I do it I would regret in the future as my taste changes.
I returned some birkins (in size/leather they don’t do anymore) in the past and now I regret I did it!
I told my Sa that I don’t like some of my bags anymore and that they just don’t fit in my collection anymore and somehow regret buying them.
She told me to sell them.
She didn’t tell me where to sell them or at what maximum price.
But I know if I do it I would regret in the future as my taste changes.
I returned some birkins (in size/leather they don’t do anymore) in the past and now I regret I did it!
That might be the case in Australia. I've never had an issue with returning to US Hermès online. Perhaps you can point out to them that you thought returning would hurt you.
Again I am sure a lot of this is automated and not carefully reviewed.
We are buying a lot of the X-mas presents for long term and important customers of our company from Hermes, I usually put my orders in months in advance (X-mas happens every year, I don't need the mad rush last minute, also always good to have some "stock" if there is a bday or a wedding and you get the last minute invite), it is usually a mug, a scarf, a twilly, a belt, depending on the customer (if they are married usually something for the wife) and how much business they bring, makes more sense and seems a bit more personal than the case of wine everybody is doing. I am pretty sure that twice I have bought the exact thing back for me on eBay and even joked with my SA about it, we both found it totally bizarre that the wife of somebody who makes that much money would then sell it on eBay for a few quid, but I guess tastes differ.
Totally agree and I’ve heard it from H SAs many times, although I’ve also heard that once I buy the bag, it’s mine and I can do with it whatever I want...except that they all know I would never resell a brand new bag...maybe not even an old one. I still have my very first B35.
To me it's a question of how it affects the SA and store, and ethics. To keep the Mini Lindy example....the first offer I got for that bag was Jaune Ambre. I liked it but wasn't totally in love. My SA had a client who was looking for both yellow bags AND a Mini Lindy. Can you imagine if I had accepted that bag and resold it immediately? I would have used my SA relationship to make a profit - at the expense of my SA being able to totally delight, and keep, another client (who went straight there to buy the bag literally an hour later). That's just wrong.Totally agree and I’ve heard it from H SAs many times, although I’ve also heard that once I buy the bag, it’s mine and I can do with it whatever I want...except that they all know I would never resell a brand new bag...maybe not even an old one. I still have my very first B35.