H leathers getting thinner?
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I really hope that's the reason... the 40cm is a special kind of heavy
Even thinner than the B35 in my pics?
I also noticed that the straps on my newer B35 were floppy from the start and the hardware were dragging them down more than on my B40 which is 4 years older...
Agree, I won't be using my B35 as much as my B40, also because the colour is a bit lighter and probably wouldn't take a beating as easily as the Ultraviolet
Haha, in theory yes, but the B35 also gets heavy quickly
Wow -these pics show very visible differences. I have an L stamp TC B40 that is thicker than my later TC B35s - I think it may be what was said above- to make up for weight/structure of the 40. It would be interesting if it was done for some other reason. Not sure how to account for the difference between the straps if those are Birkins of the same size -regardless, they should certainly be "holding up". You would think that in a globalized world culture were "athleisure" is being sold, that making bags lighter and thinner to appease customers would never cause H to shirk their culture/responsibility of creating high-quality bags similar to what Grace Kelly or Jane Birkin first carried. On the other hand, a friend suggested that having to destroy a major amount of R year bags may have had its costs. Who knows?
H, while classic, has changed over the years in terms of leathers and production. However, I have to believe that fundamentally, they would try to avoid putting out poor product that would weaken or cheapen the brand. Given the investment we have all made, I hope that's the case.
I hope so too...
You're welcome. I'd be curious to see a 2012 Birkin against a much older one, leatherwise
Actually, you can turn one hide into two, and it is often done. According to what I've read, the average thickness of a cowhide is 5mm. (Saddle leather on the skirts or flaps is probably full thickness. Upholstery leather according to the article, is around .9-1.1mm.) A hide is split in a splitting machine which divides it into at least two hides: the grained hide and one or two splits. The grained side is "top grain." The splits are sold as suede, or a grain is pressed into them. I have no idea how H buys leather for various applications.
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I have the thinnest togo birkin from 2016. Its super light and a 30 so its not flopping over...but looks kind of "cheap" next to my very luxurious thicker skins.
sorry ehy12, i read carefully after and saw that you did mention "togo". i would love to see a picture of your thin togo bag. my birkin's straps are literally dangling with the weight of the hardware, when i walk with it the straps reminds of a baby toy, the one that has flappy arms. or chair swing ride in amusement park
I just recently weighed Clemence Birkins that were six years apart and they weighed the same....also my new Barenia Birkin seems exactly as thick as other barenia Bs I have handled that are much older. Maybe it's a Togo thing?
Ok...these are awful pics...i am not a good photographer. Also, comparing my b30 togo and k28 togo from the same year...the k28 does NOT seem thicker but theres more texture and it is definitely not as dry. My best togo was on my old b40 from 2009 which i no longer have...people used to stop me to touch the leather...maybe they are usung thinner togo for smaller bags???
I have sold my K32 etoupe togo (Q stamp) because the leather was paper thin.. it was suuper thin and slouched from the moment i took it out from the box. I gave my B30 Black Togo (also Q stamp) to my mom for the exact same reason.
Both were bought directly from Hermes boutique.
At the same year i bought B30 Bamboo Togo (also Q stamp) that's thicker and stiffer than my B30 orange togo with O stamp.
I rejected a B30 mykonos clemence (Q stamp) when offered to me by my SA for the same reason. I swear that was the thinnest and slouchiest birkin's leather i've ever seen, even thinner than my etoupe togo K32 and Black togo B30.
My B30 white clemence (T stamp) is thicker and stiffer than my rose jaipur clemence (P stamp) though...
Both were bought directly from Hermes boutique.
At the same year i bought B30 Bamboo Togo (also Q stamp) that's thicker and stiffer than my B30 orange togo with O stamp.
I rejected a B30 mykonos clemence (Q stamp) when offered to me by my SA for the same reason. I swear that was the thinnest and slouchiest birkin's leather i've ever seen, even thinner than my etoupe togo K32 and Black togo B30.
My B30 white clemence (T stamp) is thicker and stiffer than my rose jaipur clemence (P stamp) though...