H leathers getting thinner?

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#46
My SA told me that they are making the leathers thinner, in an attempt to make the bags lighter. I have noted a significant difference in my R stamp bags (both Togo and Clemence) vs earlier bags in the same leathers.
 
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#47
tokyorose said:
My SA told me that they are making the leathers thinner, in an attempt to make the bags lighter. I have noted a significant difference in my R stamp bags (both Togo and Clemence) vs earlier bags in the same leathers.
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Yes
Definitely a significant difference
Whether it is weight or cost factor
Only h knows
But prices up every year
 
#49
tokyorose said:
My SA told me that they are making the leathers thinner, in an attempt to make the bags lighter. I have noted a significant difference in my R stamp bags (both Togo and Clemence) vs earlier bags in the same leathers.
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I'm new to H and I feel the Togo leather is thin. However the clemance ones feel thick enough to my like.. But I don't have older bags for comparison..
 
#50
baileylab said:
for me thinner does not always mean poorer quality.

think gadgets - smaller & lighter & faster

Think winter clothes - thinner but warmer & lighter.
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This is generally true with products that are improved by technical improvements on man-made materials. Leather unfortunately can't be developed the way an alloy or a man-made insulation fiber can.
 
#51
To the current topic - my brand new Clemence Evelyne is definitely a thinner leather than my N stamp Clemence Birkin. In addition, when the new Evelyne met with a bad accident on a plane and was soaked, the leather stretched immediately and has remained misshapen, whereas the B is years old and has retained its shape although slouchy. (I haven't yet found out if the damage to the new bag can be fixed as I have to wait for the airline's response to the damage.)
 
#52
I got a thin togo gold B around when this thread originated. Don't like the thin leather, but then I prefer clemence anyway. Unless thinner hides are cheaper, I am not sure how it would save money.

I never understood the weight issue. If it is different, we are talking ounces.
 
#54
Birdonce said:
Can't imagine how it would save costs. Not like you can turn one hide into two by shaving it in half
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orid said:
To me lighter to carry is marketing code for saving production cost, though they are still the benchmark when it comes to quality.
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All I can think is that perhaps the thicker hides are more rare and therefore more expensive to buy from their leather source--if this is in indeed the case that they are intentionally making the bags with thinner leather for monetary reasons. :confused1:
 
#55
LV started this trend just a few years ago with thinner lower quality leather- my vintage LV bags have superior thicker leather- the difference is obvious and heartbreaking.


Coincidence H bags are going down the same bridle path with LV encroachment on the H brand? I think not.
 
#56
It's not a case of a different animal. This has been going on for around a year now. They're basically trimming costs. Think about it.

Same thing with exotics. Going from croc to alligator, etc.
 
#57
I don't have experience with Clemence leather, is it normal for a brand new B to be that floppy?
Or is it due to the thinner leather?
 

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#60
Your bag is stunning! Which colour is it?
I have a new clemence K32 and I can't say that the leather seems to be thin. She is quite heavier and is feeling smooth and rich.
But I have no comparison.
 
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