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So, basically, she wants to go off whatever site it was listed on? I see no way a buyer saves fees on Paypal. Is she asking you to sell directly thru PP?

My thought is that if she is willing to cheat the site you listed on. she won't have a problem cheating you. Not that she will but.....

You should be protected by PP if you ship to a confirmed address, but it is an ethics issue to me.
@ carlpsmom: I think the buyer is seeing a $$ savings because the seller, dyyong is passing the 3% savings on to her.

I'm not seeing this as only the buyer being unethical but the seller is being unethical too.

Seller's quote:
I'm sorry it's sounds like unprofessional, I am new to poshmark and had no idea they charged 20%!! so the buyer suggested just to go thru PayPal as invoice transaction. personally I had sold many PayPal invoices transaction for my own collection of bags, but all are domestic sales as buyers trusted me with my almost 1000 positive feedbacks and over 10 years in eBay.
ok back to topic, I wasn't comfortable to send to Mexico so I told buyer NO, I prefer domestic, then she suggested to send to her friend in CA, and her friend will send to her, but it's still PayPal invoice transaction. I just wanted to know if I follow all PayPal protocol is it ok to proceed? the item I am selling is very rare and she had been looking for it for a while.

So the seller didn't do her homework, didn't research what her costs would be and now is wanting to cheat Poshmark out of the 20% they RIGHTLY EARNED in connecting the buyer and the seller.

And in my opinion, that's wrong!

Both buyer and seller are cheating.

BTW, seller, you stated: "personally I had sold many PayPal invoices transaction for my own collection of bags, but all are domestic sales as buyers trusted me with my almost 1000 positive feedbacks and over 10 years in eBay."

If you are implying (and admitting) that you took ebay transactions off the site and sold through Paypal directly, you were being dishonest.

This is why a seller having 100% feedback doesn't necessarily indicate an honest seller.
 
@ carlpsmom: I think the buyer is seeing a $$ savings because the seller, dyyong is passing the 3% savings on to her.

I'm not seeing this as only the buyer being unethical but the seller is being unethical too.

Seller's quote:


So the seller didn't do her homework, didn't research what her costs would be and now is wanting to cheat Poshmark out of the 20% they RIGHTLY EARNED in connecting the buyer and the seller.

And in my opinion, that's wrong!

Both buyer and seller are cheating.

BTW, seller, you stated: "personally I had sold many PayPal invoices transaction for my own collection of bags, but all are domestic sales as buyers trusted me with my almost 1000 positive feedbacks and over 10 years in eBay."

If you are implying (and admitting) that you took ebay transactions off the site and sold through Paypal directly, you were being dishonest.

This is why a seller having 100% feedback doesn't necessarily indicate an honest seller.
Absolutely!
 
Oh no!! CSR sounded very confident too! Thank you for all this info! I will just use one PayPal account then. If he's using his credit card but paying through PayPal that should be ok too?
 
They gave you bad information. (There are many posts here where it's discussed that ebay and PP will tell you what you want to hear but it's often inaccurate.)

If payment is split, you WILL lose protection. DON'T do it!

ETA:
https://www.paypal.com/ie/webapps/mpp/paypal-safety-and-security

General Guidelines.

  • Disputes can be opened for certain, tangible and intangible goods
  • Full item cost has to be covered in one payment
  • The buyer can open a dispute within 180 days of the date the payment was made
  • If the buyer and the seller cannot reach a mutual agreement, the dispute can be escalated to a claim within 20 days after opening the dispute
  • Buyers cannot open several disputes for the same payment


One last question, when you say "full item cost has to be covered in one payment"

Doing the deposit of $1,000 and settling the balance within four days does not cover this? Sorry. eBay newbie here. It's my HG H Bag that costs a lot of money and want to be protected as much as possible :)
 
Oh no!! CSR sounded very confident too! Thank you for all this info! I will just use one PayPal account then. If he's using his credit card but paying through PayPal that should be ok too?

One last question, when you say "full item cost has to be covered in one payment"

Doing the deposit of $1,000 and settling the balance within four days does not cover this? Sorry. eBay newbie here. It's my HG H Bag that costs a lot of money and want to be protected as much as possible :)
No, a deposit, down payment, installments or any other type of split payment voids protection. Full payment means one payment for entire amount.

You can use one account or the other to make the full payment. If the payment is funded with a credit card, that's great. It's a second layer of protection.
 
No, a deposit, down payment, installments or any other type of split payment voids protection. Full payment means one payment for entire amount.

You can use one account or the other to make the full payment. If the payment is funded with a credit card, that's great. It's a second layer of protection.


Will do that! Thanks again!! So tricky especially when CSRs say otherwise!
 
No, a deposit, down payment, installments or any other type of split payment voids protection. Full payment means one payment for entire amount.

You can use one account or the other to make the full payment. If the payment is funded with a credit card, that's great. It's a second layer of protection.


Hi BeenBurned! I have another question, she ended the listing on eBay while i am having it authenticated to ensure no one buys it and will not relist it anymore once I can make sure it's authentic and will push through with the purchase.

We both agreed I will pay her using my paypal in one transaction as you suggested. I will just use my bank funds which is connected to my paypal account.

Is this whole process safe for me as a buyer? Many thanks for sharing your time and knowledge!
 
No, a deposit, down payment, installments or any other type of split payment voids protection. Full payment means one payment for entire amount.

You can use one account or the other to make the full payment. If the payment is funded with a credit card, that's great. It's a second layer of protection.

Actually, I just saw in the updates that PP emailed out in the last week or so that they will begin covering split payments. But I didn't note when that will take effect. I'll see if I can find it.

Edit: Apparently it's June 25. The full update is here:

https://www.paypal.com/us/webapps/mpp/ua/upcoming-policies-full
 
Hi BeenBurned! I have another question, she ended the listing on eBay while i am having it authenticated to ensure no one buys it and will not relist it anymore once I can make sure it's authentic and will push through with the purchase.

We both agreed I will pay her using my paypal in one transaction as you suggested. I will just use my bank funds which is connected to my paypal account.

Is this whole process safe for me as a buyer? Many thanks for sharing your time and knowledge!
In ending the listing, the seller made it so you will lose ebay buyer protection since you won't be buying through ebay. And in doing so, the seller is cheating ebay out of the fees (10% of the total payment amount) ebay rightly earned by giving her the exposure allowing you to find and buy the item.

If I were you, I'd have her relist it so you can buy through ebay.

if the seller won't relist on ebay and if you buy privately, make sure the payment is for "goods" and that you do NOT purchase as friends and family. (F&F offers no protection for you.)

ETA: I'm curious to see how the authentication goes. Call me cynical but it was NOT necessary for the seller to end the listing early in order for you to have it authenticated. I have little doubt she did that to save herself the $1800 FVF fee and IMO, that's cheating.
http://forum.purseblog.com/authenti...e-read-the-rules-821115-635.html#post30233423

ETA again: This one is important!! See my post which follows your authentication request.
 
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In ending the listing, the seller made it so you will lose ebay buyer protection since you won't be buying through ebay. And in doing so, the seller is cheating ebay out of the fees (10% of the total payment amount) ebay rightly earned by giving her the exposure allowing you to find and buy the item.

If I were you, I'd have her relist it so you can buy through ebay.

if the seller won't relist on ebay and if you buy privately, make sure the payment is for "goods" and that you do NOT purchase as friends and family. (F&F offers no protection for you.)

ETA: I'm curious to see how the authentication goes. Call me cynical but it was NOT necessary for the seller to end the listing early in order for you to have it authenticated. I have little doubt she did that to save herself the $1800 FVF fee and IMO, that's cheating.
http://forum.purseblog.com/authenti...e-read-the-rules-821115-635.html#post30233423

ETA again: This one is important!! See my post which follows your authentication request.


I asked her if she could "hold" the listing for me while I have it authenticated, as it already happened twice to me that I was in the process of authenticating and the item sold. Wasted money there. So she said she will remove the listing while I get it done.

She said if I decide to purchase she will send me an invoice and I'll ask for a very detailed one. She still pays invoice fees through PayPal I think.

I asked for more and detailed photos and had it authenticated by bababebi. The report states that the bag is indeed authentic. Oh what to do!!
 
I asked her if she could "hold" the listing for me while I have it authenticated, as it already happened twice to me that I was in the process of authenticating and the item sold. Wasted money there. So she said she will remove the listing while I get it done.

She said if I decide to purchase she will send me an invoice and I'll ask for a very detailed one. She still pays invoice fees through PayPal I think.

I asked for more and detailed photos and had it authenticated by bababebi. The report states that the bag is indeed authentic. Oh what to do!!
I'm not comfortable with the seller at all.

How do you (or Bababebi) know that the pictures she sent for authentication purposes are of the actual item?

As shown, at least some of the pictures in the Hermes listing were stolen from other sources and additionally, other listings from the same seller use pictures stolen from other sources.

For example, 2synch has this Celine listing:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/3100-Celine...633377?hash=item1eb058dfe1:g:I2AAAOSwe7BWxNzj

The first picture was stolen from this post here on TPF:
http://forum.purseblog.com/celine-r...e-reference-thread-741209-4.html#post24937423

I haven't gone through all the listings but in looking at the list of listings, many are stock or other sourced pictures.

Sellers are not supposed to infringe on the intellectual property of others by using pictures that they don't own.

and at this price point, buyers should be seeing her own pictures of the actual items she sells.

As for paypal fees, that's about 3% and yes, she'll be paying those, but it's the big money that she's screwing ebay out of.

I stand by my opinion that an honest seller won't rip off the site that gave them exposure.

Use the site; pay the fees.
 
to each their own, but i would trust the company over a forum message board for my answers...
I posted the link from paypal policy.

You need to read some of the threads here where ebay told callers something then when those callers trusted the information, they lost their cases.

BTW, why would you come here if you don't trust the advice?
 
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