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Hello,
New here.
Does anyone know the best way to restore faded black (faded to gray) to a richer more black - black with glove tanned leather?
I am afraid of washing even an unlined bag because I did once and the original dye came out and left large discolored spots (used only a tad of Ivory dish soap).
I also would like to know if washing suede will ruin its softness and stiffen it to where it is matted and scratchy. I have a gramercy bag ordered with big stains on the inside suede and faded black outside leather. So I guess I also need to know what will restore color to embossed etched leather such as on the Gramercys too.
Also any advice where to buy good leather conditioners, and are they really alright to use on old chromed Coach glove leather? I know to avoid silicone based anything and have read about the Apple, Lexol, Blackrock and CPR (?) here but don't know where to buy them.
Would love to hear anyone's experience and expertise in these matters. Thanks!
 
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Newbie again. Found old threads about Black Rock Leather -n- Rich being the best for dark faded bags. Found some on Amazon but some descriptions state cleaner and conditioner, and one just conditioner, so don't know which one and wonder how it will work on unwashed black bag.
Also found Motorcycle leather CPR in a tube. The right stuff?
 
Hello,
New here.
Does anyone know the best way to restore faded black (faded to gray) to a richer more black - black with glove tanned leather?
I am afraid of washing even an unlined bag because I did once and the original dye came out and left large discolored spots (used only a tad of Ivory dish soap).
I also would like to know if washing suede will ruin its softness and stiffen it to where it is matted and scratchy. I have a gramercy bag ordered with big stains on the inside suede and faded black outside leather. So I guess I also need to know what will restore color to embossed etched leather such as on the Gramercys too.
Also any advice where to buy good leather conditioners, and are they really alright to use on old chromed Coach glove leather? I know to avoid silicone based anything and have read about the Apple, Lexol, Blackrock and CPR (?) here but don't know where to buy them.
Would love to hear anyone's experience and expertise in these matters. Thanks!

I rehabbed a faded and stained gramercy. I didn't dunk. I don't usually on structured bags. I pulled out the suede lining and washed it, using acetone on ink and Lincoln EZ cleaner, also lightly sanding. For the exterior I filled deep scratches with leather cement. I mixed Lexol conditioner with a tiny amount of Wood n Stuff Leather Refinisher (you only need a sample size bottle) and applied that all over the bag. For the final step I used Blackrocks Leather n Rich. Here are before and after pictures.gramercy before c.JPG gramercy before e.JPG gramercy before f.JPG gramercy before.JPG gramercy rehab023.jpg gramercy rehab008.jpg gramercy rehab014.jpg gramercy rehab005.jpg
 
Newbie again. Found old threads about Black Rock Leather -n- Rich being the best for dark faded bags. Found some on Amazon but some descriptions state cleaner and conditioner, and one just conditioner, so don't know which one and wonder how it will work on unwashed black bag.
Also found Motorcycle leather CPR in a tube. The right stuff?
I've never seen motorcycle leather cpr. I've seen horse cpr in a tube. It might be similar. The one I use is this: https://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/st...AkFJ5vJDElBROxWwf-STm9i-kbnNjcsRn6RoCk7Lw_wcB
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00GRT125A/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
The Black Rock I use is this: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008B70CRA/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
but if you order that, they will most likely send you a smaller glass jar, like this one: https://www.amazon.com/BLACKROCK-LE...coding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=MCNCQAAQYD57RKCMW3NV
When I bought it last October, I got two jars for $14.99.
 
Thank you thank you, ladies, especially for the addresses to get this stuff.. Wow, that is some gramercy, it looks rich and black like I want. Hope I get good results too if my bag is not completely shot (my ordered bag is not as pretty, but I NEED it). May I ask if the suede lining stays pretty soft after washing?
I cannot believe the results on that gramercy, wow. Leather looks great and suede looks nice and
velvet-y still, That's what I want!
 
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Thank you thank you, ladies, especially for the addresses to get this stuff.. Wow, that is some gramercy, it looks rich and black like I want. Hope I get good results too if my bag is not completely shot (my ordered bag is not as pretty, but I NEED it). May I ask if the suede lining stays pretty soft after washing?
I cannot believe the results on that gramercy, wow. Leather looks great and suede looks nice and
velvet-y still, That's what I want!
If you brush or very lightly sand the suede, it will stay soft.
 
I rehabbed a faded and stained gramercy. I didn't dunk. I don't usually on structured bags. I pulled out the suede lining and washed it, using acetone on ink and Lincoln EZ cleaner, also lightly sanding. For the exterior I filled deep scratches with leather cement. I mixed Lexol conditioner with a tiny amount of Wood n Stuff Leather Refinisher (you only need a sample size bottle) and applied that all over the bag. For the final step I used Blackrocks Leather n Rich. Here are before and after pictures.View attachment 3594180 View attachment 3594181 View attachment 3594182 View attachment 3594183 View attachment 3594184 View attachment 3594185 View attachment 3594186 View attachment 3594187

This rehab is unbelievable! I wouldn't have touched that one, thinking it was too far gone. It's beautiful now.
I'm also stunned it still absorbed BR even with a (very thin) coating of Leather Refinisher. I would not have guessed that.
 
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I agree about whateve's rehab of the gramercy. I would not have thought such a thing was possible either, absolutely amazing.
I just received my beat up gramercy. It is a black satchel. Leather is not real bad, not abraded in too many places and little color loss but does have scratches.
Suede lining is filthy and unfortunately can't be pulled out, it is sewn in on ends. So I would have to bathe the whole bag. Also zipper inset area that goes around three sides is flattened and bulges and makes the bag look bad.
Hope this old lady can pull something off. Just the kind of bag I need for my age, a bit big and stodgy but really nice leather! Thanks again for the help, conditioners on order.
 
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EMERGENCY HELP NEEDED!
Kind ladies please help, I dunked a vintage cream colored bag with brown trim and strap, just to reshape it and try to clean a very small stain. I was very careful placing in the water, so none of the brown would be touching the cream just in case. When I took it out I noticed that a part of the bottom had folded in and now I have a line of brown on the bottom that is cream. Any way to repair the mess? I am so upset! Thanks
I forgot to mention that it is not lined.
 
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EMERGENCY HELP NEEDED!
Kind ladies please help, I dunked a vintage cream colored bag with brown trim and strap, just to reshape it and try to clean a very small stain. I was very careful placing in the water, so none of the brown would be touching the cream just in case. When I took it out I noticed that a part of the bottom had folded in and now I have a line of brown on the bottom that is cream. Any way to repair the mess? I am so upset! Thanks
I forgot to mention that it is not lined.

I'm not sure....my out loud hypothesis would be to use saddle soap on the area to decrease the line of demarcation where the dye has bled.
 
EMERGENCY HELP NEEDED!
Kind ladies please help, I dunked a vintage cream colored bag with brown trim and strap, just to reshape it and try to clean a very small stain. I was very careful placing in the water, so none of the brown would be touching the cream just in case. When I took it out I noticed that a part of the bottom had folded in and now I have a line of brown on the bottom that is cream. Any way to repair the mess? I am so upset! Thanks
I forgot to mention that it is not lined.

Ugh - so frustrating!
I clean all my bags with straight white vinegar - maybe try that? I wouldn't scrub too hard on the white, though.
Just yesterday I was reading an archived post by two.time.bags, who'd left a wet strap drying on the suede side of a flap and it made a mark. But now I can't find the post! I think she used acetone but I'd definitely save that as a last resort.
 
I'm not sure....my out loud hypothesis would be to use saddle soap on the area to decrease the line of demarcation where the dye has bled.

Ugh - so frustrating!
I clean all my bags with straight white vinegar - maybe try that? I wouldn't scrub too hard on the white, though.
Just yesterday I was reading an archived post by two.time.bags, who'd left a wet strap drying on the suede side of a flap and it made a mark. But now I can't find the post! I think she used acetone but I'd definitely save that as a last resort.

Thank you ladies for trying to help.
I do not have saddle soap and I tried the vinegar but... I guess I scrubbed to hard and made it worse. As it looks like it is too late to get rid of the mark, the best solution will be to cover it up when dry (or almost dry). Luckily I found in my stash of supplies a Leather Refinish (not paint), in a very similar shade. I think I will be able to make it better that way. Again... THANK YOU!
 
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